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You claim that fire wouldn't cause the building to collapse like that...well...

Over the weekend a building in down town Des Moines caught on fire due to an electrical issue (early reports seem to indicate that). The building went completely up in flames...and then collapsed exactly like the WTC.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/media/ ... o/7049757/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How can this be? This building was made of steel? Fire can't get hot enough to cause a building to collapse like that according to you.

Even more confusing is that this fire didn't have hundreds of gallons of jet fuel to feed it either.

Yet this building collapses just like the WTC....

How?


Did the government get involved in taking down this historic building in downtown Des Moines? Did the goverment alter the above video (or any of the other videos on the DSM Register website/WHO News website) to make it look like it happened? Was there explosives planted to destroy the building?

I NEED YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED HERE!

No YouTube video.

Sorry...a news outlet was the best I got...

Which is exactly why he needs to dig into this obviously planted event

Clenz, I bet you think the moon walk was real too.

JoltinJoe wrote:Clenz, I bet you think the moon walk was real too.

Well, since I can see the landing spot with a telescope - yes, I do.

JoltinJoe wrote:Clenz, I bet you think the moon walk was real too.

You guys are stupid Americans. Wake up!!!!!

Alex Gus Spanos once attended a Bohemian Grove conclave with George W. Bush.

What's wrong with you guys? You have just fallen for the government trap. That Des Moines fire was a copy-cat demolition, set up by the same architects of the 911 charade, to put doubt into your heads.

Hook

Line

Sinker

CAA Flagship wrote:
What's wrong with you guys? You have just fallen for the government trap. That Des Moines fire was a copy-cat demolition, set up by the same architects of the 911 charade, to put doubt into your heads.

Hook

Line

Sinker

Everyone knows that the Des Moines newspaper is a propaganda mouth piece of the Obama-Goebbels administrations.

You all are a bunch of feckin lemmings.

Ibanez wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote:
What's wrong with you guys? You have just fallen for the government trap. That Des Moines fire was a copy-cat demolition, set up by the same architects of the 911 charade, to put doubt into your heads.

Hook

Line

Sinker

Everyone knows that the Des Moines newspaper is a propaganda mouth piece of the Obama-Goebbels administrations.

That isn't entirely false.



Actually, it's pretty spot on

Ibanez wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote:
What's wrong with you guys? You have just fallen for the government trap. That Des Moines fire was a copy-cat demolition, set up by the same architects of the 911 charade, to put doubt into your heads.

Hook

Line

Sinker

Everyone knows that the Des Moines newspaper is a propaganda mouth piece of the Obama-Goebbels administrations.

You have no idea how close to the truth that statement is.

HI54UNI wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Everyone knows that the Des Moines newspaper is a propaganda mouth piece of the Obama-Goebbels administrations.

You have no idea how close to the truth that statement is.

Bump.

I know you've seen this thread spandick

He's busy looking for a youtube video.

Wow! I can't believe you're actually comparing this to building 7! Amazing how wrong you are.

First of all- this building was more than a century old- IT WAS BUILT IN 1899!!! not nearly the standards of construction used in more recent skyscraper construction, such as the over-engineered bunker of a building WTC7.

It was 6 stories tall, not 47 stories of over-engineered steel structure built in 1987.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4LNmiaul3Y[/youtube]

Comparing this fire to the fire in Building 7.. there's no comparison!, this fire was much worse, on a much older building, and it didn't cause a total collapse either.. If small fires cause buildings to collapse into their own footprint- why didn't it happen? It just collapsed on the top floors. It was labeled a "monstrous fire".. and it didn't collapse the building- like you said it did incorrectly.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgdmX1HMxBA[/youtube]

Building 7 had minor fires, hardly any flames even visible, mostly smoke, and the entire building collapsed into the path of MOST resistance just like a controlled demo job.

Here's the Building 7 fire:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U[/youtube]

The Des Moines fire wasn't a complete collapse like Building 7, it was just the top floors that collapsed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A[/youtube]

I can't believe you're even attempting to compare the two!

Oh, and this building in Chechnya didn't collapse, even though the entire thing was on fire:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izNDNHK3_N8[/youtube]

The entire Mandarin Oriental Building was on fire.. it didn't collapse:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVRma5QS6k[/youtube]

Think before posting crap about a 6 story, 100 plus year old building being on fire, which doesn't collapse.

It didn't collapse?

Odd..I thought I saw it collapse

clenz wrote:It didn't collapse?

Odd..I thought I saw it collapse

Not to mention everyone knows they don't build them like they used to...planned obsolescence and such.

Spandos...

clenz wrote:It didn't collapse?

Odd..I thought I saw it collapse

Nope, it was 6 stories tall, and all 6 stories are still there..



The top floors got really screwed up- but all 6 stories of the exterior are still standing- unlike the 47 story building 7 blown to smithereens.





Besides, like I said before, comparing the construction of a more than 100 year old building not as strong structurally as normal due to renovations going on to that of a new skyscraper using state of the art engineering that houses government buildings and Giuliani's disaster command center isn't a fare comparison.

Here's building 7's collapse from small fires into the path of most resistance- much smaller than the Younkers building:

kalm wrote:

clenz wrote:It didn't collapse?

Odd..I thought I saw it collapse

Not to mention everyone knows they don't build them like they used to...planned obsolescence and such.

Planned obsolescence applies to consumer goods such as socks, hairdryers and coffee makers, not multi-million dollar skyscrapers. Nice try though.

expandspanos wrote:

kalm wrote:
Not to mention everyone knows they don't build them like they used to...planned obsolescence and such.

Planned obsolescence applies to consumer goods such as socks, hairdryers and coffee makers, not multi-million dollar skyscrapers. Nice try though.

Sure...that's what they want you to believe ...

expandspanos wrote:

kalm wrote:
Not to mention everyone knows they don't build them like they used to...planned obsolescence and such.

Planned obsolescence applies to consumer goods such as socks, hairdryers and coffee makers, not multi-million dollar skyscrapers. Nice try though.

I'm surprised the gov't hasn't killed you yet.

Ibanez wrote:

expandspanos wrote:
Planned obsolescence applies to consumer goods such as socks, hairdryers and coffee makers, not multi-million dollar skyscrapers. Nice try though.

I'm surprised the gov't hasn't killed you yet.

He is a government plant...

Ibanez wrote:

expandspanos wrote:
Planned obsolescence applies to consumer goods such as socks, hairdryers and coffee makers, not multi-million dollar skyscrapers. Nice try though.

I'm surprised the gov't hasn't killed you yet.

We're working on it but our hit list is long and usually more distinguished than Spandex

expandspanos wrote:

kalm wrote:
Not to mention everyone knows they don't build them like they used to...planned obsolescence and such.

Planned obsolescence applies to consumer goods such as socks, hairdryers and coffee makers, not multi-million dollar skyscrapers. Nice try though.

Did you ever come up with those papers that were peer-reviewed in science and engineering journals, Spankdick?


let me guess: No?

CID1990 wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I'm surprised the gov't hasn't killed you yet.

We're working on it but our hit list is long and usually more distinguished than Spandex

Just get it done.