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Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:08 am
by D1B
Tax-exempt bullshit.

Next time you hear Z bitching bout some poor black woman on food stamps, ask him if his business is paying their fair share? I bet he has no clue anyway.

This shit cost us billions of dollar in tax revenue.
Credit Unions are now a $1 trillion industry, competition for the same business and offering the same products as community banks.

There are now 208 credit unions with more than $1 billion in assets - a large increase from 1991, when only 11 credit unions were this large.

A 2006 U.S. Government Accountability Office study found that a bigger portion of credit union customers are upper-income compared to bank customers.

Of the $8.6 billion credit union industry profits reported in 2012, three-fourths of those profits were concentrated in credit unions with over $500 million in assets, representing less than 6 percent of credit unions.

Since 2001, credit unions have increased the deficit by not paying an estimated $20.5 billion in federal income taxes.

The credit union tax exemption is expected to be the 17th largest corporate tax expenditure by conservative estimates found in the Office of Management and Budget's Analytical Perspectives.

An individual tax payer will pay more in taxes each year than all credit unions combined.

Decades ago, mutual insurance companies and mutual savings banks, with ownership structures similar to credit unions, lost their tax exemptions, specifically in the 1940s and 50s and continue to operate, and thrive, while paying taxes.

Canada and Australia, in 1972 and 1994 respectively, repealed their credit union industries' tax exemptions.
Fuck credit unions. They're the same as banks, so tax em. :ohno:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:46 am
by AZGrizFan
:lol: :lol:

Desperation knows no bounds, eh Douche1Bag? :coffee: :coffee: :kisswink:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:48 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote::lol: :lol:

Desperation knows no bounds, eh Douche1Bag? :coffee: :coffee: :kisswink:
Nice dodge, Joltin Jr. :lol:

Don't worry, Z, we know you don't actually perform any work and just fuck around all day. We don't expect you to understand this thread. No problem. Peace. :thumb:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:11 am
by Ibanez
D1B wrote:Tax-exempt bullshit.

Next time you hear Z bitching bout some poor black woman on food stamps, ask him if his business is paying their fair share? I bet he has no clue anyway.

This shit cost us billions of dollar in tax revenue.
Credit Unions are now a $1 trillion industry, competition for the same business and offering the same products as community banks.

There are now 208 credit unions with more than $1 billion in assets - a large increase from 1991, when only 11 credit unions were this large.

A 2006 U.S. Government Accountability Office study found that a bigger portion of credit union customers are upper-income compared to bank customers.

Of the $8.6 billion credit union industry profits reported in 2012, three-fourths of those profits were concentrated in credit unions with over $500 million in assets, representing less than 6 percent of credit unions.

Since 2001, credit unions have increased the deficit by not paying an estimated $20.5 billion in federal income taxes.

The credit union tax exemption is expected to be the 17th largest corporate tax expenditure by conservative estimates found in the Office of Management and Budget's Analytical Perspectives.

An individual tax payer will pay more in taxes each year than all credit unions combined.

Decades ago, mutual insurance companies and mutual savings banks, with ownership structures similar to credit unions, lost their tax exemptions, specifically in the 1940s and 50s and continue to operate, and thrive, while paying taxes.

Canada and Australia, in 1972 and 1994 respectively, repealed their credit union industries' tax exemptions.
Fuck credit unions. They're the same as banks, so tax em. :ohno:
What's the source?

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:12 am
by Ibanez
D1b, where do you keep your non-interest earning money?

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:50 am
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:D1b, where do you keep your non-interest earning money?
He keeps his money in a credit union. :nod: :nod:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:29 am
by Pwns
Keeping more of your own money = Welfare Whores
Those credit unions better be glad the government is generous enough to let them keep more of their own money! :lol:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:57 am
by AZGrizFan
Establishing an account at a credit union usually requires a smaller deposit than that of a bank; credit unions usually require $5–$30 to open an account, while major banks sometimes require $50–$100 deposit. The required minimum deposit to join a credit union is called a share and establishes the depositor as a member with full ownership rights.

Tension has always existed between member-owned cooperative credit unions and for-profit banks in the United States. When credit unions were first organizing in the US in the early 20th century, the banking industry was opposed, remaining so ever since. Banks and bank trade associations consistently put anti-credit union legislation at the top of their agendas.

Due to their status as not-for-profit, member-owned financial institutions with no source of secondary investment capital, credit unions in the US are exempt from federal and state income taxes (but not from other forms of tax, such as payroll, sales, or property taxes). Credit union members themselves pay income tax on dividends earned through financial participation in the credit union; this is similar to the taxation structure enjoyed by many banks incorporated under Subchapter S of Chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code.

To extend their member service reach, many credit unions participate in shared ATM and branch networks. Most credit unions participate in the CO-OP Network, which allows members of participating credit unions to use nearly 30,000 ATMs without fees or surcharges. Shared branching is a cooperative venture whereby members of one credit union can perform basic transactions at no additional cost at any branch owned by other credit unions within the network.

Bank holding companies and their affiliates aggressively compete to provide services to credit unions through their ATMs networks, corporate checking accounts, and certificate of deposit programs. In 2007, the American Bankers Association (ABA) barred credit union employees from attending ABA-sponsored educational seminars. This includes online classes that require registration. Based on the pretext that the ABA only wants to serve its members, the ABA continues to try to weaken credit unions and take back the market share that credit unions currently hold.
United States credit unions typically pay higher dividend (interest) rates on shares (deposits) and charge lower interest on loans than banks. Credit unions therefore often have a higher cost of assets (i.e. interest expense as a percentage of average assets) than commercial banks, with aggregate U.S. credit union cost of assets being higher than the aggregate U.S. bank cost of assets in eight of the thirteen years between 1995 and 2007. Credit union revenues (from loans and investments) do, however, need to exceed operating expenses and dividends (interest paid on deposits) in order to maintain capital and solvency.

A credit union's policies governing interest rates and other matters are set by a volunteer Board of Directors elected by and from the membership itself.
Current 12 month CD rates in San Antonio, TX:

Bank of America: .03%
Wells Fargo: .05%
Chase Bank: .01%
USAA Federal Savings Bank: .71%
Security Service Federal Credit Union: 1.25%

Volunteer boards. Cooperative in nature. Not-for-profit organizations. Limited fields of membership. No access to secondary capital.

You want to piss of 90,000,000 Americans? Tax credit unions.

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:06 am
by Cap'n Cat
Wow. A thread that makes Z take his feet off his desk and put down that copy of Hustler.

Brilliant!

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"Ahhhh, let's see. What minority can I fuck with next?"

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:16 am
by Cap'n Cat
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Average Credit Union CEO Pay Now $256,339: CUES Survey

And up to $449,500!


The base salaries, bonuses/incentives and total compensation continue to increase for credit union CEOs, and the average CEO now makes more than $250,000 a year, according to the CUES 2013 Executive Compensation Survey.

The survey shows the average increase in base salary for credit union CEOs was 6.43%, compared to 6.43% in 2012 and 4.37% in 2011. The largest average base salary increase was 9.41% for CEOs who work at credit unions with $600 million to $999 million in assets.

That number is actually down slightly from the $260,807 that CUES reported as the average salary in its 2012 survey.

The survey showed the average increase in the credit union CEO base salary plus bonus/incentive was 8.40%, compared to 5.93% in 2012 and 5.01% in 2011. CEOs in the $600 million to $999 million asset size group had the largest average increase in salary plus bonus/incentive paid at 13.07%.

The average increase in CEO total compensation was 8.18% compared to 5.83% in 2012 and 5.07% in 2011. And again, CEOs in the $600 to $999 million asset size had the largest average increase in total compensation at 13.55%.

Other key findings of the survey include:
•Average base salary plus bonus compensation for CEOs ranged from $85,366 for credit unions with assets less than $30 million to $552,318 for credit unions with assets greater than $1 billion.
•The average CEO total compensation for all credit unions reported was $256,339.
•Non-CEO executive compensation increases in total compensation ranged from 4.75% to 9.26% for repeat survey participants. The greatest percentage change was reported for the Branch / Member Services Executive at 9.26%. Sixty-one percent of the credit unions that participated in the 2013 survey also participated in the 2012 survey.
•The top factors for determining CEO bonus/incentive awards remain the same as the last few years with earnings, board evaluation and loan growth rounding out the top three factors.

The survey also showed credit unions with $250 million assets or more tend to pay their CEOs higher in median base salary than CEOs at banks with $250 million in assets or more, according to the survey.

For example, the median base salary for a CEO at credit union with $250 million to $499 million in assets is paid an average of $236,125. For bank CEOs the median base salary is $221,053.

For a CEO at a credit union with $500 million to $999 million in assets the median base salary is $325,000. For a bank CEO the median base salary is $275,206, the survey shows. And for a CEO at a credit union with $1 billion or more in assets, the median base salary is $449,948. For a bank CEO, the median base salary is $383,750.

Nearly 60% of credit union CEOs has been serving in their position for five to 20 years, while nearly 24% of credit union CEOs has been working in their position for more than 20 years.

The survey’s findings were based on the responses from 443 CUES member and non-member credit unions. Corporate credit unions were not surveyed or included in the results.



Pretty good gig if you can slither into it!!!

:nod:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:27 am
by AZGrizFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:The survey also showed credit unions with $250 million assets or more tend to pay their CEOs higher in median base salary than CEOs at banks with $250 million in assets or more, according to the survey.

For example, the median base salary for a CEO at credit union with $250 million to $499 million in assets is paid an average of $236,125. For bank CEOs the median base salary is $221,053.

For a CEO at a credit union with $500 million to $999 million in assets the median base salary is $325,000. For a bank CEO the median base salary is $275,206, the survey shows. And for a CEO at a credit union with $1 billion or more in assets, the median base salary is $449,948. For a bank CEO, the median base salary is $383,750.

Nearly 60% of credit union CEOs has been serving in their position for five to 20 years, while nearly 24% of credit union CEOs has been working in their position for more than 20 years.

The survey’s findings were based on the responses from 443 CUES member and non-member credit unions. Corporate credit unions were not surveyed or included in the results.

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Pretty good gig if you can slither into it!!!

:nod:
There's lies, damned lies and then there's statistics. What that article FAILS to mention is the lucrative stock options doled out to the vast majority of bank execs that CU executives don't have a chance at.

Anyhoo, I sleep just fine at night. :coffee: :coffee: :kisswink:

edit: And I'm on my lunch hour, fucknugget. :tothehand:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:34 am
by D1B
This is the most Z has thought about credit unions in 25 years. :nod:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:40 am
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:This is the most Z has thought about credit unions in 25 years. :nod:
Yep. :thumb:

Glad you're thinking about them too. Too bad we can't get the idiots out there who keep 94% of assets in the banks to think about us too.

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:48 am
by Chizzang
What is this "Credit Union" you speak of..?

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:51 am
by Cap'n Cat
I'm certain Z is a good CEO. Just playin'.

:thumb:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:59 am
by Grizalltheway
Cap'n Cat wrote:I'm certain Z is a good CEO. Just playin'.

:thumb:
A day in the life of Z. :D

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c[/youtube]

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:21 am
by AZGrizFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:I'm certain Z is a good CEO. Just playin'.

:thumb:
Alas, I am not a CEO anymore...just another worker bee, pluggin' away for "the man". :ohno: :ohno:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:33 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:I'm certain Z is a good CEO. Just playin'.

:thumb:
Alas, I am not a CEO anymore...just another worker bee, pluggin' away for "the man". :ohno: :ohno:
You should come work for me. :nod:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:05 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Alas, I am not a CEO anymore...just another worker bee, pluggin' away for "the man". :ohno: :ohno:
You should come work for me. :nod:
Whatchu got?

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:12 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
D1B wrote:
You should come work for me. :nod:
Whatchu got?
Stocks and Investing. My portfolio consists of 95% Nigerian Royal Family Life Insurance Policies and 5% Sears & Roebuck stock. I'm looking to diversify, possibly a foray into the North Korean Stock Exchange.

I could use a guy like you.

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:14 pm
by Baldy
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Alas, I am not a CEO anymore...just another worker bee, pluggin' away for "the man". :ohno: :ohno:
You should come work for me. :nod:
Why? Picking up cans isn't as lucrative as it used to be. The price of aluminum is in the shitter. :coffee:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:17 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Baldy wrote:
D1B wrote:
You should come work for me. :nod:
Why? Picking up cans isn't as lucrative as it used to be. The price of aluminum is in the shitter. :coffee:

God, what a dick.

:ohno:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:20 pm
by Grizalltheway
Baldy wrote:
D1B wrote:
You should come work for me. :nod:
Why? Picking up cans isn't as lucrative as it used to be. The price of aluminum is in the shitter. :coffee:
Yup. Stripping copper wiring is where it's at these days. :nod:

Re: Welfare Whores Pt. 1 - Credit Unions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:54 pm
by HI54UNI
Grizalltheway wrote:
Baldy wrote: Why? Picking up cans isn't as lucrative as it used to be. The price of aluminum is in the shitter. :coffee:
Yup. Stripping copper wiring is where it's at these days. :nod:
Just stay out of electric substations

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