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Again…that’s my point. We went from Toby Keith shoving his Tony Lama’s up some A-rabs ass to Noam Chomsky in the last 20 years.
First day on the planet?
You realize they left because of logistics, not losses right? Now ask yourself why the HIMARS weren't used to target the Dniper crossings during the retreat.
And Ukraine is on like their 9th or 10th wave of conscription.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:13 amHasn't the majority of what you've posted been from unverified Russian sources? Now you're questioning things? Why did Russia need to go to a mass conscription if they were just rolling over the Ukrainians with little to few losses?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:06 am
Where are you getting this stat from?
Simply put, if Russia has been gaining ground, how would anyone who was pro Ukraine actually get to perform a body count? They'd be performing that task in the middle of enemy territory.
See, it stuff like this that people don't question. If it was a neutral observer, let's see the data.
Russia made a decision based on logistics, not losses. Aside from the push by Ukraine along the Dnipro towards Mylove that eventually lost steam, none of their attacks in the Kherson region regained much territory.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:13 amWell, they had a pretty defensible position along the Inhulets River when the offensive started that SDHornet was really excited about (before Ukraine broke throughSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:59 am
How about it was a difficult place to defend and supply, so it's wiser to retreat to ground where they won't be isolated if the dam is blown?
SDHornet wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:05 pm
Anyone claiming the Kerson counteroffensive wasn't a failure just isn't paying attention. At best you can claim it was a feign for the Kharkov counteroffensive.
Ukraine make their push past the Oskil River yet?
Speaking of rivers, Ukraine manage to set new pontoon bridges to get their forces over the Inhulets River yet?
Looking forward to y'all having to justify their retreat from the Dnipro River next. My guess is in the Spring... but, you never know.
Why? Since when is Ukraine in NATO, and why does anyone owe anything to Ukraine?
Notice how quick the msm was to jump on that and try and ignite WW3? Sickening.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:35 pmYes, so shitty it flew in the opposite direction it should have to intercept incoming Russian missiles. Took me a little to realize what happened.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:36 am Hopefully they can get a bunch of Patriot missile systems in there so they don't have to rely on their shitty Soviet S-300s
By the way, don't think Patriot or Iron Dome would help much. Been trying to find the article stating that, but it was too long ago.
It's already over, Russia is going to collapse any day now.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:06 pm Russia pounded Ukrainian electrical grid again today. Thought they ran out of missiles months ago?
You're harping on potential Ukrainian human rights violations a post after bragging about Russia bombing Ukraine back to the Stone Age?SDHornet wrote:Oh. These the good ones?
Isn't there a word for this?
Wonder what the spin from the flag waivers will be on this one?
SDHornet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:03 pmRussia made a decision based on logistics, not losses. Aside from the push by Ukraine along the Dnipro towards Mylove that eventually lost steam, none of their attacks in the Kherson region regained much territory.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:13 am
Well, they had a pretty defensible position along the Inhulets River when the offensive started that SDHornet was really excited about (before Ukraine broke through
Looking forward to y'all having to justify their retreat from the Dnipro River next. My guess is in the Spring... but, you never know.
The better question is why did Ukraine waste so much personnel and material on wasted pushed into that region, and my question above as to why Ukraine didn't target the Dnipro crossings with HIMARS during the retreat.
UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:41 amYou're harping on potential Ukrainian human rights violations a post after bragging about Russia bombing Ukraine back to the Stone Age?SDHornet wrote:Oh. These the good ones?
Isn't there a word for this?
Wonder what the spin from the flag waivers will be on this one?
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Begs the question: what are they waiving...Wasn't bragging about Russia bombing Ukraine back to the stone age, just make a matter of fact post. I mean, we do the same kind of targeted bombing when we invade other countries, no? So is this one of those "it's good when we do it but bad when they do it" kind of situations? Or is this just a part of going to war?UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:41 amYou're harping on potential Ukrainian human rights violations a post after bragging about Russia bombing Ukraine back to the Stone Age?SDHornet wrote:Oh. These the good ones?
Isn't there a word for this?
Wonder what the spin from the flag waivers will be on this one?
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Somebody was going to take the fall for trying to start WW3, it sure wasn't going to be a spook higher up the chain, may as well be the reporter.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:00 pm AP reporter was fired for doing nothing wrong. He got the "tip" from senior Intel official previously vetted by AP and passed it on to his coworkers. They asked him if he'd want it printed and he replied that was above his pay grade. His coworkers, who I don't know if they were his superiors, ran with it because a "senior Intel official wouldn't lie".
Well, looks like senior Intel official lied. The internet had this figured out immediately due to a photo of the missile.
What does this tell you? You're being lied to and someone wants to start a big war. Said it before. The DoD stepped in and shut down the DoS narrative before it escalated. DoD knew tracking of the missile came from Ukraine.
Now they can sit in the snow and freeze their asses off all winter and try to survive on whatever they can loot fom the locals while their supply lines get cut to ribbons.SDHornet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:03 pmRussia made a decision based on logistics, not losses. Aside from the push by Ukraine along the Dnipro towards Mylove that eventually lost steam, none of their attacks in the Kherson region regained much territory.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:13 am
Well, they had a pretty defensible position along the Inhulets River when the offensive started that SDHornet was really excited about (before Ukraine broke through
Looking forward to y'all having to justify their retreat from the Dnipro River next. My guess is in the Spring... but, you never know.
The better question is why did Ukraine waste so much personnel and material on wasted pushed into that region, and my question above as to why Ukraine didn't target the Dnipro crossings with HIMARS during the retreat.
They're buying back ammo from NK, probably missiles too. You gotta feel for the Russian civilians watching their low standard of living get lower because little Vladimir wants to be somebody.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:06 pm Russia pounded Ukrainian electrical grid again today. Thought they ran out of missiles months ago?
