The Ukraine Crisis

[Grizalltheway]

Obama vs Putin in a nutshell:

FTFY. Dude's probably a better shot than you.

[ASUG8]

[kalm]

...with an anchor that came out against their involvement in the Ukraine....the point that went right over your head as usual.

I was also in Germany a couple of weeks ago and watched some coverage of the Ukraine crisis on RT. Completely biased against the protesters, very pro Viktor Yanukovych, pro Russia.

RT is just a propaganda network for Russia. That fact that you don't get that is

Wait...are you saying there's propaganda in news reporting? Stop the presses! Glad it doesn't occur from our msm.

Again, RT has a host who spoke out against the Ukraine situation. US media also has a history of stifling anti establishment voices.

You're the dullard that keeps on giving! Don't ever change!

[BDKJMU]

Obama vs Putin in a nutshell:

FTFY. Dude's probably a better shot than you.

Dumbass.. Do you know anything about firearms, esp shotguns????
http://www.examiner.com/article/photo-o ... ed-a-fraud" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

I was also in Germany a couple of weeks ago and watched some coverage of the Ukraine crisis on RT. Completely biased against the protesters, very pro Viktor Yanukovych, pro Russia.

RT is just a propaganda network for Russia. That fact that you don't get that is

Wait...are you saying there's propaganda in news reporting? Stop the presses! Glad it doesn't occur from our msm.

Again, RT has a host who spoke out against the Ukraine situation. US media also has a history of stifling anti establishment voices.

You're the dullard that keeps on giving! Don't ever change!

Your the that said we need to watch more of RT. Keep it up.

[Grizalltheway]

FTFY. Dude's probably a better shot than you.

Dumbass.. Do you know anything about firearms, esp shotguns????
http://www.examiner.com/article/photo-o ... ed-a-fraud" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lemme guess, you didn't think/know it was fake until "patdollard".com told you it was?

[kalm]

Wait...are you saying there's propaganda in news reporting? Stop the presses! Glad it doesn't occur from our msm.

Again, RT has a host who spoke out against the Ukraine situation. US media also has a history of stifling anti establishment voices.

You're the dullard that keeps on giving! Don't ever change!

Your the that said we need to watch more of RT. Keep it up.

I said I might need to watch RT because a) the host was kind of hot and b) she spoke out against Russian hostility.

Somebody's got a round trip ride on the struggle bus today...

[Skjellyfetti]

All Putin needs to do is say he believes there are weapons of mass destruction in Crimea, show the world a small vial with white powder, and he'll be golden.

[dbackjon]

All Putin needs to do is say he believes there are weapons of mass destruction in Crimea, show the world a small vial with white powder, and he'll be golden.

He's available

[AZGrizFan]

All Putin needs to do is say he believes there are weapons of mass destruction in Crimea, show the world a small vial with white powder, and he'll be golden.

Well fuck. Why didn't you just say so?

[UNI88]

All Putin needs to do is say he believes there are weapons of mass destruction in Crimea, show the world a small vial with white powder, and he'll be golden.

That's some nice work Jelly.

[Ivytalk]

All Putin needs to do is say he believes there are weapons of mass destruction in Crimea, show the world a small vial with white powder, and he'll be golden.

That's some nice work Jelly.

No graph, no peace.

[SDHornet]

Ruh roh:

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration's plans to impose punitive economic sanctions on Russia — potentially its strongest response to Moscow's military intervention in Ukraine — already are facing resistance from administration allies in Congress and Europe.
Although administration officials say they are prepared to freeze assets of top Russian officials and possibly target state-run financial institutions, European allies — who are heavily dependent on Russian oil and gas supplies — signaled they aren't ready to follow suit.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-us-u ... z2v3VHSFqV

So much for those "costs".

Well played Obama, well played. Completely pwned by Putin on the global stage.



The only card left to play is the one that has worked so well in the US media, and that is to pretend that this whole thing never happened.

[Skjellyfetti]

Ruh roh:

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration's plans to impose punitive economic sanctions on Russia — potentially its strongest response to Moscow's military intervention in Ukraine — already are facing resistance from administration allies in Congress and Europe.
Although administration officials say they are prepared to freeze assets of top Russian officials and possibly target state-run financial institutions, European allies — who are heavily dependent on Russian oil and gas supplies — signaled they aren't ready to follow suit.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-us-u ... z2v3VHSFqV

So much for those "costs".

Well played Obama, well played. Completely pwned by Putin on the global stage.



The only card left to play is the one that has worked so well in the US media, and that is to pretend that this whole thing never happened.

What would brilliant SDHornet do in this situation?

You never state your opinion about anything ever. You just laugh at other people's opinions and call them dumb. Or quote someone else and say "This."


Here's your chance.

You're the President. Russia invades Crimea. What do you do?

[SDHornet]

Ruh roh:


http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-us-u ... z2v3VHSFqV

So much for those "costs".

Well played Obama, well played. Completely pwned by Putin on the global stage.



The only card left to play is the one that has worked so well in the US media, and that is to pretend that this whole thing never happened.

What would brilliant SDHornet do in this situation?

You never state your opinion about anything ever. You just laugh at other people's opinions and call them dumb. Or quote someone else and say "This."


Here's your chance.

You're the President. Russia invades Ukraine. What do you do?

FIFA

I encourage the EU to solve their own problem and don't promise them a damn thing. (Privately remind them that they should have accepted the Ukraine into NATO when they had the chance.) Release some generic statement about how we stand with out European allies in solving this situation blah blah blah. That way when the EU backs out of the situation because believe it or not they have less balls then we do (them backing out was not unforeseen BTW, see my previous statements regarding their dependence on Russian energy) I am not left with Putin's nuts on my chin when the dust settles (like Obama currently is).

Next.

[YoUDeeMan]

The problem jellybean, and others of his ilk, are having trouble understanding is that Obama has said, on a couple of recent occasions (Freedom for people from oppressive governments - except for those pesky folks in our oil friend's countries, Syria/Russia doing bad things, Snowden, and now Crimea/Ukraine, among others...and that only counts the foreign policy gaffs), that there would be grave consequences if someone did something or even crossed a red line. And then, of course, they do it - and Obama does nothing.

To Libs, it is perfectly OK to say, or even promise, that you are going to do something and then not do it. It is as if they don't give a crap if they are proven to be liars because they have no problem with not honoring their word or having values that change with the wind.

When caught in a lie, a Lib's instinct is to deflect from the facts and turn the tables by asking what anyone would do in their situation, when in fact, most normal folks would not have ever bothered to have painted ourselves into a corner by lying in the first place.

[kalm]

The problem jellybean, and others of his ilk, are having trouble understanding is that Obama has said, on a couple of recent occasions (Freedom for people from oppressive governments - except for those pesky folks in our oil friend's countries, Syria/Russia doing bad things, Snowden, and now Crimea/Ukraine, among others...and that only counts the foreign policy gaffs), that there would be grave consequences if someone did something or even crossed a red line. And then, of course, they do it - and Obama does nothing.

To Libs, it is perfectly OK to say, or even promise, that you are going to do something and then not do it. It is as if they don't give a crap if they are proven to be liars because they have no problem with not honoring their word or having values that change with the wind.

When caught in a lie, a Lib's instinct is to deflect from the facts and turn the tables by asking what anyone would do in their situation, when in fact, most normal folks would not have ever bothered to have painted ourselves into a corner by lying in the first place.

But still...

[SDHornet]

The problem jellybean, and others of his ilk, are having trouble understanding is that Obama has said, on a couple of recent occasions (Freedom for people from oppressive governments - except for those pesky folks in our oil friend's countries, Syria/Russia doing bad things, Snowden, and now Crimea/Ukraine, among others...and that only counts the foreign policy gaffs), that there would be grave consequences if someone did something or even crossed a red line. And then, of course, they do it - and Obama does nothing.

To Libs, it is perfectly OK to say, or even promise, that you are going to do something and then not do it. It is as if they don't give a crap if they are proven to be liars because they have no problem with not honoring their word or having values that change with the wind.

When caught in a lie, a Lib's instinct is to deflect from the facts and turn the tables by asking what anyone would do in their situation, when in fact, most normal folks would not have ever bothered to have painted ourselves into a corner by lying in the first place.

But still...

I'm trying to understand what is inaccurate with Clucks post. Please enlighten me Kalm.

[AZGrizFan]

But still...

I'm trying to understand what is inaccurate with Clucks post. Please enlighten me Kalm.

Nothing. thats why Klammy is laughing nervously...

[kalm]

But still...

I'm trying to understand what is inaccurate with Clucks post. Please enlighten me Kalm.

He either doesn't know enough liberals or hasn't paid attention to his conk friends.

I'll be the first to admit the problematic nature of liberal nuance but if you truly think his post doesn't also apply to conservatives, you are either hyper partisan or lack skills of observation.

[kalm]

I'm trying to understand what is inaccurate with Clucks post. Please enlighten me Kalm.

Nothing. thats why Klammy is laughing nervously...

Bitch, please...

[SDHornet]

I'm trying to understand what is inaccurate with Clucks post. Please enlighten me Kalm.

He either doesn't know enough liberals or hasn't paid attention to his conk friends.

I'll be the first to admit the problematic nature of liberal nuance but if you truly think his post doesn't also apply to conservatives, you are either hyper partisan or lack skills of observation.

Well normally I don't buy into the "conks do this" and "libs do that" bull shit but he has explained Obama (and liberals under his administration) playbook to a fucking "t" with his statement. There has been nothing but bobbing and weaving with every fucking scandal or debacle under this administration. Zero accountability, zero responsibility taken on anything. It has long gotten old.

And then people wonder why none of the global leaders take him seriously.

[kalm]

He either doesn't know enough liberals or hasn't paid attention to his conk friends.

I'll be the first to admit the problematic nature of liberal nuance but if you truly think his post doesn't also apply to conservatives, you are either hyper partisan or lack skills of observation.

Well normally I don't buy into the "conks do this" and "libs do that" bull shit but he has explained Obama (and liberals under his administration) playbook to a fucking "t" with his statement. There has been nothing but bobbing and weaving with every fucking scandal or debacle under this administration. Zero accountability, zero responsibility taken on anything. It has long gotten old.

And then people wonder why none of the global leaders take him seriously.

Cluck was just trolling...which is fine, and why it got a laugh out of me. There has to be a certain degree of truth involved in order for comedy to work. Cluck is a master at this.

However, if you read his post and were truly nodding along with it without recognizing the gross generalizations and fact that some partisan conks act exactly the same, then it's time to check yourself...

[AZGrizFan]

Nothing. thats why Klammy is laughing nervously...

Bitch, please...

[kalm]

And if you truly think Obama is a liberal, you're about as smart as those who thought Bush or Reagan were conservative.