UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:16 am
SDHornet wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:29 am
Credit to Biden in this war. He cut off Europe's access to cheap Russain oil (now people have to buy it via middle man India and China or buy ours) and has positioned the US MIC as the prime weapons dealers to non-BRICS members all at the expense of a few hundred thousand Ukrainian and Russian casualties and Ukraine that will have been bombed/shelled back to the stone age when it's all said and done. We're still in the early stages of German de-insutrialization due to the much higher energy costs which no doubt the American economy will benefit from. Brillant and unscrupulous ploy.
Putin is significantly more responsible for the Ukrainian and Russian casualties and that Ukraine will have been bombed/shelled back to the stone age than Biden. The Ukrainians were going to fight back regardless of their weaponry so I'm not sure how arming them is unscrupulous.
Putin and the Russians
ignored international law to invade a sovereign nation and when sanctioned cut off gas to European nations. Biden is unscrupulous but he's not in Putin's class
That's quite the rewriting of history. Let me help you with the facts.
1) On Feb 21st, The Donetsk News Agency reported unprecedented artillery attacks on the Donbas republic by Ukrainian forces, which is backed up by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine.
The OSCE Special Observer Mission at the ceasefire line in southeast-Ukraine reported of Monday, February 21 2022.
It was the worst day ever.
In Donetsk region, the SMM recorded 703 ceasefire violations, including 332 explosions. In the previous 24 hours, it recorded 579 ceasefire violations in the region.
In Luhansk region, the Mission recorded 1,224 ceasefire violations, including 1,149 explosions. In the previous 24 hours, it recorded 333 ceasefire violations in the region
2) Around 6 o'clock that night the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic had asked the president of Russia Vladimir Putin to recognize the republics as independent states.
On behalf of our people we ask you to recognize the DPR as an independent, democratic, social state under the rule of law," the DPR Head Denis Pushilin said.
"I ask you to recognise the sovereignty and independence of the Lugansk People's Republic", the LPR Head Leonid Pasechnik said.
They both asked to consider the possibility of signing an agreement of friendship and cooperation between Russia and the LPR, including the cooperation in the sphere of defence.
3) Putin then held a Security Council meeting and after that meeting, had a phone call with Scholz and Macron to inform them of the results.
4) During a speech that night, Putin said:
In this regard, I consider it necessary to take a long overdue decision and to immediately recognise the independence and sovereignty of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic. I would like to ask the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation to support this decision and then ratify the Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Assistance with both republics. These two documents will be prepared and signed shortly.
5) After the speech Putin signed documents recognizing the independence of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics. The treaties of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance
included mutual defense agreements.
Russia was asked for help, as Ukraine was not following the agreed upon Minsk II agreements and had intensified their attacks, not to mention had 120,000 troops amassed in the area. Russia pulled the US going to protect Kosovo from Serbia move.