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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:23 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:42 pm

When will Russia send in the real troops? And then more JV squad to control the areas they’ve lost and will obviously regain…again.

Putin remains master strategist.
You tell me. You seem to have ultimate insider info to Putin's plan.

Putin is doing exactly what he said. Demilitarize and denazify. Ukraine is losing equipment and fighting age men by the droves.

You're the one who is cool with others dying for your cause.
I just said he remains master strategist. I’m not sure anyone including Putin knows his plan.

And what exactly do you imagine my cause to be? :?
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Winterborn wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:07 pm Another $2 billion to Ukraine this past week.

I think we are up to $40 Billion so far.
I thought ot was 60 billion+?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:24 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:23 pm

You tell me. You seem to have ultimate insider info to Putin's plan.

Putin is doing exactly what he said. Demilitarize and denazify. Ukraine is losing equipment and fighting age men by the droves.

You're the one who is cool with others dying for your cause.
I just said he remains master strategist. I’m not sure anyone including Putin knows his plan.

And what exactly do you imagine my cause to be? :?
No imagination needed. Pretty obvious you are cool with throwing Ukrainian bodies into the grinder to teach Putin a lesson.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:39 pm If my choice is that or indiscriminately fellating Putin then I'll take hating.


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Image Nice either or argument of silly proportions. Why are you fine with sending Ukrainians to their death?
Why are you fine with sending Russians to their death?

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:45 pm
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Image Nice either or argument of silly proportions. Why are you fine with sending Ukrainians to their death?
Why are you fine with sending Russians to their death?

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I'm not fine, but you are. You're so committed, you're on record in this thread saying American word is worthless just to keep sending bodies. Ganny too.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:45 pm Why are you fine with sending Russians to their death?

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I'm not fine, but you are. You're so committed, you're on record in this thread saying American word is worthless just to keep sending bodies. Ganny too.
I am? Quote me. Quote Ganny too while you're at it.

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:57 pm
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I'm not fine, but you are. You're so committed, you're on record in this thread saying American word is worthless just to keep sending bodies. Ganny too.
I am? Quote me. Quote Ganny too while you're at it.

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You both said you didn't give a shit about past assurances NATO and US backed forces won't move towards Russia. US diplomats are on record and you said you didn't give two shits.

Game on. Let's throw another country's kids at our self created problem.
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Fuck off. Ukraine is fighting for their lives, sovereignty, and freedom. The US isn't goading them into fighting back against a foreign invader. Every Ukrainian life lost is the fault of Russia and Russia alone.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:29 am Fuck off. Ukraine is fighting for their lives, sovereignty, and freedom. The US isn't goading them into fighting back against a foreign invader. Every Ukrainian life lost is the fault of Russia and Russia alone.
You fuck off bitch. You have any skin in this game? You got kids or family, or are you just throwing everyone else's kids in your way?

Didn't think so. You run your mouth a lot without backing it up.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:06 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:39 pm

If my choice is that or indiscriminately fellating Putin then I'll take hating.


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:lol: Nice either or argument of silly proportions. Why are you fine with sending Ukrainians to their death?

Why do you bring a frenzy of histrionic queefing to any post that questions Putin? I don't get your attraction other than he's white?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:49 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:29 am Fuck off. Ukraine is fighting for their lives, sovereignty, and freedom. The US isn't goading them into fighting back against a foreign invader. Every Ukrainian life lost is the fault of Russia and Russia alone.
You fuck off bitch. You have any skin in this game? You got kids or family, or are you just throwing everyone else's kids in your way?

Didn't think so. You run your mouth a lot without backing it up.
More histrionic queefing - CID was right, you're too fucking stupid to be bothered with. :ohno:

This war is on your boy Putin and on him alone and it can be over any time he want to call off his invasion. Your obsequious kowtowing is reminiscent of both Neville Chamberlain and Trump's groveling dogwalk at Helsinki . Putin is getting now what he's had coming for a long time and its way past time that the murderous little cunt gets reminded who is the superpower and who is the third world army with rockets. We should continue to bleed them until they repeat 1989, and then rebuild Ukraine so their Russian neighbors can see the glaring difference in their lives. Rub it in real, real good.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:14 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:24 pm

I just said he remains master strategist. I’m not sure anyone including Putin knows his plan.

And what exactly do you imagine my cause to be? :?
No imagination needed. Pretty obvious you are cool with throwing Ukrainian bodies into the grinder to teach Putin a lesson.
This is why you're little more than a run-of-the-mill-feeble-minded-conk fuck. Its like.... "The Return of JBB" or "Lakes Rides Again" :ohno:
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If NATO hadn’t expaned to essentially all of eastern Europe (including some former Soviet Republics) between 1999 and a few years ago, would Russia still have invaded Ukraine?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:14 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:24 pm

I just said he remains master strategist. I’m not sure anyone including Putin knows his plan.

And what exactly do you imagine my cause to be? :?
No imagination needed. Pretty obvious you are cool with throwing Ukrainian bodies into the grinder to teach Putin a lesson.
Why would you think that? War sucks. So does Russian imperialism. This isn’t that hard.
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houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:58 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:49 am

You fuck off bitch. You have any skin in this game? You got kids or family, or are you just throwing everyone else's kids in your way?

Didn't think so. You run your mouth a lot without backing it up.
More histrionic queefing - CID was right, you're too fucking stupid to be bothered with. :ohno:

This war is on your boy Putin and on him alone and it can be over any time he want to call off his invasion. Your obsequious kowtowing is reminiscent of both Neville Chamberlain and Trump's groveling dogwalk at Helsinki . Putin is getting now what he's had coming for a long time and its way past time that the murderous little cunt gets reminded who is the superpower and who is the third world army with rockets. We should continue to bleed them until they repeat 1989, and then rebuild Ukraine so their Russian neighbors can see the glaring difference in their lives. Rub it in real, real good.
Weren't you a cook in the military?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:46 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:58 am

More histrionic queefing - CID was right, you're too fucking stupid to be bothered with. :ohno:

This war is on your boy Putin and on him alone and it can be over any time he want to call off his invasion. Your obsequious kowtowing is reminiscent of both Neville Chamberlain and Trump's groveling dogwalk at Helsinki . Putin is getting now what he's had coming for a long time and its way past time that the murderous little cunt gets reminded who is the superpower and who is the third world army with rockets. We should continue to bleed them until they repeat 1989, and then rebuild Ukraine so their Russian neighbors can see the glaring difference in their lives. Rub it in real, real good.
Weren't you a cook in the military?

Often cooked C rations on the manifold of a deuce-and-a-half. :thumb:

How was your stint with the Mess Kit Repair Battalion?
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:39 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:14 pm

No imagination needed. Pretty obvious you are cool with throwing Ukrainian bodies into the grinder to teach Putin a lesson.
Why would you think that? War sucks. So does Russian imperialism. This isn’t that hard.
Yeah, that will all stop if we just quit helping the Ukrainians against their invader. :dunce:
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:39 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:14 pm

No imagination needed. Pretty obvious you are cool with throwing Ukrainian bodies into the grinder to teach Putin a lesson.
Why would you think that? War sucks. So does Russian imperialism. This isn’t that hard.
:lol: :lol: You need a cure of the "isms".
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CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:26 am
kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:39 am

Why would you think that? War sucks. So does Russian imperialism. This isn’t that hard.
:lol: :lol: You need a cure of the "isms".
You sound like Mrs. Kalm.

How about “aggression”? “Invasion”? “Murderous douchebaggery”?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:59 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:57 pm I am? Quote me. Quote Ganny too while you're at it.

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You both said you didn't give a shit about past assurances NATO and US backed forces won't move towards Russia. US diplomats are on record and you said you didn't give two shits.

Game on. Let's throw another country's kids at our self created problem.
I said that specifically? I don't remember it. Quote me and prove it.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:49 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:29 am Fuck off. Ukraine is fighting for their lives, sovereignty, and freedom. The US isn't goading them into fighting back against a foreign invader. Every Ukrainian life lost is the fault of Russia and Russia alone.
You fuck off bitch. You have any skin in this game? You got kids or family, or are you just throwing everyone else's kids in your way?

Didn't think so. You run your mouth a lot without backing it up.
I believe Jelly does have family in Ukraine so this might have been below the belt.
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:35 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:26 am

:lol: :lol: You need a cure of the "isms".
You sound like Mrs. Kalm.

How about “aggression”? “Invasion”? “Murderous douchebaggery”?
Deliberate targeting of civilians? Forcible relocation of children?
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:11 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:49 am

You fuck off bitch. You have any skin in this game? You got kids or family, or are you just throwing everyone else's kids in your way?

Didn't think so. You run your mouth a lot without backing it up.
I believe Jelly does have family in Ukraine so this might have been below the belt.
You're dealing with a Neville Chamberlain wannabe who thinks its our fault Putin invaded his neighbor and Ukrainians would be safe if we'd just stop helping them so they could surrender and prosper.
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houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:11 am

I believe Jelly does have family in Ukraine so this might have been below the belt.
You're dealing with a Neville Chamberlain wannabe who thinks its our fault Putin invaded his neighbor and Ukrainians would be safe if we'd just stop helping them so they could surrender and prosper.
The Russo-Ukrainian War is one of the few instances since the Gulf War which I agree the US should be involved in (and so do most Americans).

For the last two decades, it seemed like the US was a declining superpower but I think our involvement in Ukraine and our strong support of Taiwan has reiterated that the US, unlike China and Russia, genuinely believes in freedom and international law AND will fight for your autonomy.

Besides being the right thing to do, it makes nations reconsider where they really want to tie their interests. Do they sell their soul to places like China...or tie their economies with a nation who sticks up for it? For the US, it's a long-term investment worth making.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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∞∞∞ wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:33 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:33 am

You're dealing with a Neville Chamberlain wannabe who thinks its our fault Putin invaded his neighbor and Ukrainians would be safe if we'd just stop helping them so they could surrender and prosper.
The Russo-Ukrainian War is one of the few instances since the Gulf War which I agree the US should be involved in (and so do most Americans).

For the last two decades, it seemed like the US was a declining superpower but I think our involvement in Ukraine and our strong support of Taiwan has reiterated that the US, unlike China and Russia, genuinely believes in freedom and international law AND will fight for your autonomy.

Besides being the right thing to do, it makes nations reconsider where they really want to tie their interests. Do they sell their soul to places like China...or tie their economies with a nation who sticks up for it? For the US, it's a long-term investment worth making.
Well said.
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