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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:33 pm This is a direct result of Biden.

US now offering to "look the other way" if Saudi develops nukes. Trying to keep them from going all in with BRICS. That's what confiscating a country's money will do for you.

Oh that's right. All you uninformed twats bought into that move as well.
Who confiscated whose money, now?
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I think he's complaining about sanctions. His checks must of started bouncing
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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houndawg wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:55 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:10 am

Bwahaha. All you got is the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority? Their track record speaks for itself.

The day you realize profits are put far ahead of altruism will be the day you start figuring it out.
Oh my goodness. STOP THE PRESSES!

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So why would you blindly follow someone when it concerns your well being?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:33 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:33 pm This is a direct result of Biden.

US now offering to "look the other way" if Saudi develops nukes. Trying to keep them from going all in with BRICS. That's what confiscating a country's money will do for you.

Oh that's right. All you uninformed twats bought into that move as well.
Who confiscated whose money, now?
The US confiscated Russian money and assets. Are you even following what has happened?

It's why BRICS is getting so much discussion. Countries are tired of the ever changing "rules based order" and finding ways to prevent the US from doing what it wants.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:38 am I think he's complaining about sanctions. His checks must of started bouncing
:lol: Says the guy who believed Joe B in that Shokin was ineffective and needed to be removed through blackmail.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:15 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:38 am I think he's complaining about sanctions. His checks must of started bouncing
:lol: Says the guy who believed Joe B in that Shokin was ineffective and needed to be removed through blackmail.
Shokin fan too eh?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:15 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:38 am I think he's complaining about sanctions. His checks must of started bouncing
:lol: Says the guy who believed Joe B in that Shokin was ineffective and needed to be removed through blackmail.
.....the entire Russian excuse for a military is ineffective evidently. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am
kalm wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:33 am

Who confiscated whose money, now?
The US confiscated Russian money and assets. Are you even following what has happened?

It's why BRICS is getting so much discussion. Countries are tired of the ever changing "rules based order" and finding ways to prevent the US from doing what it wants.
The world confiscated Russian money and assets. But go ahead and side with China, Russia, etc over Sweden, England, etc.

Did you attend the WTO riots, SeaAnarchoGriz?

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am
kalm wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:33 am

Who confiscated whose money, now?
The US confiscated Russian money and assets. Are you even following what has happened?

It's why BRICS is getting so much discussion. Countries are tired of the ever changing "rules based order" and finding ways to prevent the US from doing what it wants.
Of course. Russia certainly wants to be able to invade and absorb into their own territory any country they want to without any interference by the rest of the world. China has certainly been talking about the same for Taiwan for decades, so that's about half of BRICS right there. But there is no "changing rules based order" here relative to that. The rules based order has looked down upon armed invasions of other sovereign countries with the purpose to seize and forever hold that territory for decades now, if not even a century. As we've gone over here countless times, Russia is acting like a 19th century Great Power here in a 21st century world.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am
kalm wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:33 am

Who confiscated whose money, now?
The US confiscated Russian money and assets. Are you even following what has happened?

It's why BRICS is getting so much discussion. Countries are tired of the ever changing "rules based order" and finding ways to prevent the US from doing what it wants.
Those countries should become superpowers if they want to have things their way. Reach down, pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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GannonFan wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:30 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:51 am

The US confiscated Russian money and assets. Are you even following what has happened?

It's why BRICS is getting so much discussion. Countries are tired of the ever changing "rules based order" and finding ways to prevent the US from doing what it wants.
Of course. Russia certainly wants to be able to invade and absorb into their own territory any country they want to without any interference by the rest of the world. China has certainly been talking about the same for Taiwan for decades, so that's about half of BRICS right there. But there is no "changing rules based order" here relative to that. The rules based order has looked down upon armed invasions of other sovereign countries with the purpose to seize and forever hold that territory for decades now, if not even a century. As we've gone over here countless times, Russia is acting like a 19th century Great Power here in a 21st century world.
You might want to examine the US's roles in other countries. How about Syria? Your thoughts on that one?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:02 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:30 am
Of course. Russia certainly wants to be able to invade and absorb into their own territory any country they want to without any interference by the rest of the world. China has certainly been talking about the same for Taiwan for decades, so that's about half of BRICS right there. But there is no "changing rules based order" here relative to that. The rules based order has looked down upon armed invasions of other sovereign countries with the purpose to seize and forever hold that territory for decades now, if not even a century. As we've gone over here countless times, Russia is acting like a 19th century Great Power here in a 21st century world.
You might want to examine the US's roles in other countries. How about Syria? Your thoughts on that one?
What about Syria?

Did the US invade Syria? Are they intentionally shelling civilian targets? Is the US intent to take over Syria and absorb it into the US? When was the last time the US made a major territorial expansion? The Panama Canal Zone?

How are MAGAt yahoo echo chambers spinning US involvement in Syria to justify russia's invasion of Ukraine?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:03 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:02 pm

You might want to examine the US's roles in other countries. How about Syria? Your thoughts on that one?
What about Syria?

Did the US invade Syria? Are they intentionally shelling civilian targets? Is the US intent to take over Syria and absorb it into the US? When was the last time the US made a major territorial expansion? The Panama Canal Zone?

How are MAGAt yahoo echo chambers spinning US involvement in Syria to justify russia's invasion of Ukraine?
The US military essentially controls the upper third of the country. Why are we there?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:11 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:03 pm
What about Syria?

Did the US invade Syria? Are they intentionally shelling civilian targets? Is the US intent to take over Syria and absorb it into the US? When was the last time the US made a major territorial expansion? The Panama Canal Zone?

How are MAGAt yahoo echo chambers spinning US involvement in Syria to justify russia's invasion of Ukraine?
The US military essentially controls the upper third of the country. Why are we there?
I think it's fair to question why we're in Syria.

Comparing our presence in Syria to the russian presence in Ukraine is apples and oranges.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:26 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:11 pm

The US military essentially controls the upper third of the country. Why are we there?
I think it's fair to question why we're in Syria.

Comparing our presence in Syria to the russian presence in Ukraine is apples and oranges.
Agreed. Slapping Syria around "cause", is much different than what is happening in Ukraine.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:34 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:26 pm

I think it's fair to question why we're in Syria.

Comparing our presence in Syria to the russian presence in Ukraine is apples and oranges.
Agreed. Slapping Syria around "cause", is much different than what is happening in Ukraine.
A separate thread about Syria might help take the focus off the spit-roasting you're taking in this thread. :mrgreen:
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DarthPutinKGB:

Weeks - 78
Casualties - 260,000🌻
Ruble - 💩
Inflation - ⬆️
Interest rates ⬆️
Economy - 🚽
War crimes - ♾
Prigozhin - Prigozout
Lunar-25 - “Collision”
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kalm wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:26 am DarthPutinKGB:

Weeks - 78
Casualties - 260,000🌻
Ruble - 💩
Inflation - ⬆️
Interest rates ⬆️
Economy - 🚽
War crimes - ♾
Prigozhin - Prigozout
Lunar-25 - “Collision”
Crimea - 💥🤯
Peskov - Missing
Surovkin - “Relieved”
Watch - Which wrist?⌚️
F-16s - En Route

I remain a master strategist.
Space Force's work. :coffee:
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Prig was an SOB but no doubt he at least hated to see the Kremlin put his men and Russian soldiers into the meat grinder of a war that's going to have a way-too-high cost even if you can win it.
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Pwns wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:20 am Prig was an SOB but no doubt he at least hated to see the Kremlin put his men and Russian soldiers into the meat grinder of a war that's going to have a way-too-high cost even if you can win it.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:08 pm
SDHornet wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:10 pm Sanctions are working.



How's that counter offensive going? The Ukies reach Crimea yet?
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:44 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:08 pm



How's that counter offensive going? The Ukies reach Crimea yet?
Patience, grasshopper. The Russians that they don't kill before winter sets in will be eating each other by spring.....the Donnerski Party.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:44 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:08 pm

https://twitter.com/ DarthPutinKGB/status/1690261295528890368?t=JB5PUcnwebpuYI54RnxVXg&s=19

How's that counter offensive going? The Ukies reach Crimea yet?
Why yes. And they’ve reached rather far with attacks into Russia too.

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