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Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:38 am
by BDKJMU
‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) - Cleveland authorities have made several arrests following the mob beating of a disabled Army veteran by a group of teenagers.

Last Friday, the victim, Matthew Robinson, was surrounded by between six and eight teenagers while riding the RTA Healthline. Robinson told WOIO that he was attacked by the teens, then robbed of his possessions.

During the attack, the teens made several derogatory remarks about Robinson.

“What they were saying was, ‘Knock that boy out!’ ‘White boy.’ ‘Cracker,’” he was quoted as saying about the incident. “They were saying, ‘Knock that white boy out.’”

This week, three suspects – Kenneth Matthews, Ronald Reid Williams and an unnamed 16-year-old girl – were arrested by Cleveland and RTA police. The latter filmed the attack with her cell phone, and was said to still have the video at the time of her apprehension.

Despite the arrests, concern remains as other attacks of a similar nature have happened in the area, most of which are said to have been perpetrated by other young culprits, according to WOIO.

Added Robinson of the danger, “Your mother or sister could be on the bus, and the same thing could happen to them.”
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Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:40 am
by BDKJMU
Of course the thugs are described by the CBS affiliate as "a group of teenagers", "teens" and "young culprits." No mention at all of race.. :roll:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:46 am
by Baldy
Obama's sons? :suspicious:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:14 am
by Cap'n Cat
Baldy wrote:Obama's sons? :suspicious:

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:42 am
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:Of course the thugs are described by the CBS affiliate as "a group of teenagers", "teens" and "young culprits." No mention at all of race.. :roll:
Of course you describe them as thugs without mentioning race. :mrgreen:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:46 am
by AZGrizFan
Can't be a hate crime....he had three strikes against him: 1) white 2) male 3) military.

Next.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:46 am
by CAA Flagship
Baldy wrote:Obama's sons? :suspicious:
They "could have been".... :whistle:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:57 am
by BDKJMU
AZGrizFan wrote:Can't be a hate crime....he had three strikes against him: 1) white 2) male 3) military.

Next.
Yep

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:58 am
by BDKJMU
kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Of course the thugs are described by the CBS affiliate as "a group of teenagers", "teens" and "young culprits." No mention at all of race.. :roll:
Of course you describe them as thugs without mentioning race. :mrgreen:
So you don't think teens who would attack a disabled vet are thugs? :ohno:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:08 pm
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Of course you describe them as thugs without mentioning race. :mrgreen:
So you don't think teens who would attack a disabled vet are thugs? :ohno:
Only if they're black.

If they're white, they are punks.

Duh.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:08 pm
by LeadBolt
BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Of course you describe them as thugs without mentioning race. :mrgreen:
So you don't think teens who would attack a disabled vet are thugs? :ohno:
BDKJMU, the article you posted only examines the situation from the point of view of one side. Information is needed from the other side of the situation. Then evidence from both sides must be evaluated with skepticism only after every nuance of information is complete before one can make an informed decision.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:10 pm
by kalm
LeadBolt wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
So you don't think teens who would attack a disabled vet are thugs? :ohno:
BDKJMU, the article you posted only examines the situation from the point of view of one side. Information is needed from the other side of the situation. Then evidence from both sides must be evaluated with skepticism only after every nuance of information is complete before one can make an informed decision.
Following me across two message boards now? Sorry I stuck in your craw so bad. :lol:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:14 pm
by LeadBolt
kalm wrote:
LeadBolt wrote:
BDKJMU, the article you posted only examines the situation from the point of view of one side. Information is needed from the other side of the situation. Then evidence from both sides must be evaluated with skepticism only after every nuance of information is complete before one can make an informed decision.
Following me across two message boards now? Sorry I stuck in your craw so bad. :lol:
My response was to BDKJMU, advising him not to jump to a hasty conclusion. Sorry, but its not all about you. Sometimes we have to look beyond ourselves.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:44 pm
by kalm
LeadBolt wrote:
kalm wrote:
Following me across two message boards now? Sorry I stuck in your craw so bad. :lol:
My response was to BDKJMU, advising him not to jump to a hasty conclusion. Sorry, but its not all about you. Sometimes we have to look beyond ourselves.
:lol:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:56 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:Can't be a hate crime....he had three strikes against him: 1) white 2) male 3) military.

Next.
Right. The poor, persecuted white male. :crybaby:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:59 pm
by Chizzang
This was clearly a matter of self defense...

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:02 pm
by JohnStOnge
Right. The poor, persecuted white male
You make light of it, but the white male is the only "fair game" race/sex combination right now. White males are in good shape due to the residual of having out competed other groups over history. But, in an official sense, our government does discriminate against them. Absolutely no doubt about it.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:10 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Can't be a hate crime....he had three strikes against him: 1) white 2) male 3) military.

Next.
Right. The poor, persecuted white male. :crybaby:
Show me 3 instances where a white male was attacked by one or more black men and it's called or prosecuted as a hate crime.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:21 pm
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote: Show me 3 instances where a white male was attacked by one or more black men and it's called or prosecuted as a hate crime.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
3 instances?

There were 3,467 instances of racially motivated hate crimes according to the FBI in 2012.

22% were anti-white motivated.

That's ~750.

I'm not spending the time to dig for the race of the perpetrators against whites... but, I think it's safe to assume that the number of black perpetrators against whites is much greater than 3. :lol:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ha ... tims_final" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:31 pm
by kalm
According to Zimmerman, Trayvon had the strength of three men.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:33 pm
by Grizalltheway
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Show me 3 instances where a white male was attacked by one or more black men and it's called or prosecuted as a hate crime.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
3 instances?

There were 3,467 instances of racially motivated hate crimes according to the FBI in 2012.

22% were anti-white motivated.

That's ~750.

I'm not spending the time to dig for the race of the perpetrators against whites... but, I think it's safe to assume that the number of black perpetrators against whites is much greater than 3. :lol:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ha ... tims_final" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Great, but can you show him 956 instances of this? He'll wait. :rofl:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:34 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Show me 3 instances where a white male was attacked by one or more black men and it's called or prosecuted as a hate crime.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
3 instances?

There were 3,467 instances of racially motivated hate crimes according to the FBI in 2012.

22% were anti-white motivated.

That's ~750.

I'm not spending the time to dig for the race of the perpetrators against whites... but, I think it's safe to assume that the number of black perpetrators against whites is much greater than 3. :lol:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ha ... tims_final" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And how many of those were actually charged with and prosecuted as a hate crime? And how many of them were actually identified by race? Like they're NOT in this article... :roll:

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:40 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
3 instances?

There were 3,467 instances of racially motivated hate crimes according to the FBI in 2012.

22% were anti-white motivated.

That's ~750.

I'm not spending the time to dig for the race of the perpetrators against whites... but, I think it's safe to assume that the number of black perpetrators against whites is much greater than 3. :lol:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ha ... tims_final" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And how many of those were actually charged with and prosecuted as a hate crime? And how many of them were actually identified by race? Like they're NOT in this article... :roll:
The media can spin a story any way they want, but federal statutes require that anyone convicted of a racially motivated crime face stiffer sentences...regardless of whether it's white-on-black or black-on-white.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:42 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
And how many of those were actually charged with and prosecuted as a hate crime? And how many of them were actually identified by race? Like they're NOT in this article... :roll:
The media can spin a story any way they want, but federal statutes require that anyone convicted of a racially motivated crime face stiffer sentences...regardless of whether it's white-on-black or black-on-white.
What those stats don't show is how many black on white crimes are NOT classified as a hate crime, versus how many white on black crimes aren't....now THAT would be interesting.

Re: Hate crime attack on disabled vet

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:12 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
The media can spin a story any way they want, but federal statutes require that anyone convicted of a racially motivated crime face stiffer sentences...regardless of whether it's white-on-black or black-on-white.
What those stats don't show is how many black on white crimes are NOT classified as a hate crime, versus how many white on black crimes aren't....now THAT would be interesting.
What's interesting (actually) is how pathetic you are...

:rofl: