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Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:34 pm
by BDKJMU
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WESTMINSTER, Md. (WJZ) — A tale of two Marylands: Western Maryland and the rest of the state. Fed up with high taxes and gun control, some people want to break away and go it alone.

Mary Bubala explains why they’re trying to form their own state.

There’s a storm brewing over the beautiful mountains and valleys of Western Maryland. More and more people in those five counties say Governor Martin O’Malley is out of touch and they want to break away from the rest of the state.

“I can’t imagine Maryland without Western Maryland,” said Governor Martin O’Malley.

“Do you actually care about your citizens?” questioned Rob Parr.

“I certainly don’t live in a bubble and I go around the state all the time,” O’Malley said.

“Why don’t you want to listen to people that you don’t agree with?” said Suzanne Olden.

“I spend my whole day listening,” O’Malley said.

Scott Strzelczyk, Suzanne Olden and Rob Parr are part of a growing group that wants to rip Maryland in two, creating the nation’s 51st state. They met recently at O’Lordan’s Irish Pub in Westminster to tell WJZ they’re fed up with politics as usual in Annapolis.

“If your vote doesn’t count, it’s the same as having no vote. We’re not free,” Strzelczyk said. “We’re doing exactly what they did in 1776. I just simply want to live as a free human being with limited government intrusion in my life and that’s really why I do this.”

They claim Maryland’s lawmakers don’t listen to their concerns so they want to form a state more in sync with their beliefs.

“I’ve gone down to Annapolis. I’ve complained; I’ve been in rallies,” said Parr. “It all falls on deaf ears.”

“The attitude is sit down, shut up, we don’t care what you think,” said Olden.

“We are enslaved to this government in Maryland that we want nothing to do with. All we simply want to do is peacefully leave,” Strzelczyk said.

“It’s a free country. People are allowed to express those opinions but we’re one Maryland and we’re stronger together,” O’Malley said.

Maryland isn’t the only state where frustrated citizens want to break away. It’s happening in Colorado, California, Arizona and Michigan.

“Republican counties are becoming more emphatically Republican; Democratic counties are becoming more emphatically Democratic, which means the divisions between Republican and Democratic counties are becoming all the more sharp,” said Johns Hopkins University professor Matthew Crenson.

Now the movement here is picking up steam. More than 8,000 people like the Facebook page for the Western Maryland Initiative and more than a thousand have signed petitions–but could they really form a new state?

“This is a peaceful way to resolve irreconcilable differences,” Strzelczyk said. “Lots of people out there feel like there is no recourse, there is no hope.”

But they know their chances of success are slim to none.

“Maryland’s my home. I was born here. It’s my home,” Olden said.

“If we leave and other people come in our place, buy our homes or whatever the case, these problems still exist,” Strzelczyk said.

“A diversity of perspectives and a diversity of people. That’s what makes us one Maryland,” O’Malley said.

“Why would anyone want to deny us our right of self-determination when that’s the basis of how all our governments are formed in this country? Why would anyone want to deny us that?” Strzelczyk said.

The Western Maryland Initiative is still working on a name for its proposed state. So far, the choices include Liberty, Antietam and Augusta.
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Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:28 pm
by AZGrizFan
Every single state in the Union has such a division.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:33 pm
by SuperHornet
I don't have empirical evidence of AZ's hypothesis, but if Cali is any indication, he is correct. It's a bit more complicated than that here, though. There's a movement between several northern counties to join with some southern counties in Oregon to form a new state called Jefferson.

:lol:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:36 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
If people are that upset, they should put their money where their mouth is and start gutting democrats the way we did the indians. The donks would put up less of a fight and they could take back the country.

Donks would do what donks do, show up with no guns, no fight and want to talk or legislate while a bullet goes through their smallish brain holder.

If more people/states did this, America could get back to peace and more importantly PROSPERITY. :nod:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:14 am
by andy7171
Western Maryland really has no say in Annapolis. Neither deoes the Eastern Shore. Actually no one outside of PG Co., Montgomery Co and Baltimore City does. The shit is rigged here. I don't blame them fuckers for wanting out. Western Maryland is more like WV, and the Eastern Shore is more like Delaware. I have no idea why Annapolis would put up a serious fight to keep WMD. The Eastern Shore has Ocean City money.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:38 am
by houndawg
SuperHornet wrote:I don't have empirical evidence of AZ's hypothesis, but if Cali is any indication, he is correct. It's a bit more complicated than that here, though. There's a movement between several northern counties to join with some southern counties in Oregon to form a new state called Jefferson.

:lol:
There is a north/south division in Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:41 am
by CAA Flagship
AZGrizFan wrote:Every single state in the Union has such a division.
New Jersey is divided between north and south.
Virginia is divided between the DC suburbs ("Northern Virginia") and the rest of the state.
Pennsylvania is divided between those attracted to Pittsburgh and those attracted to Philly.
Nevada is divided between those who work for casinos and those who don't.
The Carolinas and Dakotas are divided between north and south.
West Virginia is divided between those with 2 teeth and those with one tooth.
Washington is divided between those who own umbrellas and those who don't.
Montana is divided between the 100 residents that have electricity and the remainder that don't.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:43 am
by houndawg
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If people are that upset, they should put their money where their mouth is and start gutting democrats the way we did the indians. The donks would put up less of a fight and they could take back the country.

Donks would do what donks do, show up with no guns, no fight and want to talk or legislate while a bullet goes through their smallish brain holder.

If more people/states did this, America could get back to peace and more importantly PROSPERITY. :nod:

ALPACAJIZZ1 :ohno:

Haven't you been getting the news? Obama just bitched the conks again. Nobody wants what the conks are selling but a few feral no-hopers and tea party fruit bats. The conks are in complete disarray at this point and Obama is a lock for a third term if he wants one.

:coffee:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:03 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
houndawg wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If people are that upset, they should put their money where their mouth is and start gutting democrats the way we did the indians. The donks would put up less of a fight and they could take back the country.

Donks would do what donks do, show up with no guns, no fight and want to talk or legislate while a bullet goes through their smallish brain holder.

If more people/states did this, America could get back to peace and more importantly PROSPERITY. :nod:

ALPACAJIZZ1 :ohno:

Haven't you been getting the news? Obama just bitched the conks again. Nobody wants what the conks are selling but a few feral no-hopers and tea party fruit bats. The conks are in complete disarray at this point and Obama is a lock for a third term if he wants one.

:coffee:

:jack:

Look D1B, you can have your opinion but that doesnt make it right.

Lots of people up in arms about a lot of things conservative, there are more conservative people in this country than liberals by far its just that we dont have any leaders or people with balls to stand up and sell the "you are going to do this or suffer the consequences, there isnt any discussion, now you get to deal with it"...attitude.

How many Detroits is it going to take for you libtards to see your fiscal policies are the anchor on this country?

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:13 am
by YoUDeeMan
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:...there are more conservative people in this country than liberals by far...
EVERYBODY is s conservative. You just have to find their hot button. :nod:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:25 am
by dbackjon
LOL at these crybabies.

Boo hoo we aren't getting our way. Boo hoo the meanies in Annapolis DO listen to the majority of the state.

Boo hoo those meanies made us recognize queer marriage.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:27 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:
Boo hoo those meanies made us recognize queer marriage.
That was the straw. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :kisswink:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:34 am
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Boo hoo those meanies made us recognize queer marriage.
That was the straw. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :kisswink:

Yup!!


They should join West Virginia, and can share the polluted water.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:09 am
by Baldy
dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
That was the straw. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :kisswink:

Yup!!


They should join West Virginia, and can share the polluted water.
Or go to Cali and not have any. :lol:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:12 am
by dbackjon
Baldy wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Yup!!


They should join West Virginia, and can share the polluted water.
Or go to Cali and not have any. :lol:

Plenty of water in Cali - just being hoarded by the farmers :thumb:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:24 am
by Grizalltheway
dbackjon wrote:
Baldy wrote: Or go to Cali and not have any. :lol:

Plenty of water in Cali - just being hoarded by the federally subsidized, conservative farmers :thumb:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:51 am
by houndawg
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
houndawg wrote:

ALPACAJIZZ1 :ohno:

Haven't you been getting the news? Obama just bitched the conks again. Nobody wants what the conks are selling but a few feral no-hopers and tea party fruit bats. The conks are in complete disarray at this point and Obama is a lock for a third term if he wants one.

:coffee:

:jack:

Look D1B, you can have your opinion but that doesnt make it right.

Lots of people up in arms about a lot of things conservative, there are more conservative people in this country than liberals by far its just that we dont have any leaders or people with balls to stand up and sell the "you are going to do this or suffer the consequences, there isnt any discussion, now you get to deal with it"...attitude.

How many Detroits is it going to take for you libtards to see your fiscal policies are the anchor on this country?
Bullshit. :jack:

Your so-called conservatives spend like drunken sailors too. They give it to the military and big bidniz. This country will be just fine as soon as corporations go back to paying their fair share and we close a few hundred military bases overseas, maybe cut back to 300-400 .... start locking up business owners that hire illegals.....the people are getting tired of carrying corporate freeloaders that send jobs overseas while gouging shareholders for the kind of bonuses usually reserved for people with real talent. :coffee:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:55 am
by CAA Flagship
dbackjon wrote:LOL at these crybabies.

Boo hoo we aren't getting our way. Boo hoo the meanies in Annapolis DO listen to the majority of the state.

Boo hoo those meanies made us recognize queer marriage.
JFC Jon. You didn't just say that, did you?
YOU are the one that has been boo hooing about the inability to have a same-sex divorce, I mean marriage. :roll:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:05 pm
by 89Hen
AZGrizFan wrote:Every single state in the Union has such a division.
Correct, but MD has taken it to a new level. This is what they did to Western Maryland to make sure they had no say in Annapolis. They extended their state congressional district into my BLUE county to grab enough voters to make it a blue district. :thumbdown:

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Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:19 pm
by Baldy
dbackjon wrote:
Baldy wrote: Or go to Cali and not have any. :lol:

Plenty of water in Cali - just being hoarded by the farmers :thumb:
Plenty? So there really isn't a drought in California afterall? :?

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:25 pm
by Baldy
Grizalltheway wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Plenty of water in Cali - just being hoarded by the federally subsidized, conservative farmers :thumb:
Or just too many dumbasses choosing to live in an area where it doesn't rain enough who are now crying when they run out of water and blaming it on someone else. :coffee:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:07 pm
by Grizalltheway
Baldy wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Or just too many dumbasses choosing to live in an area where it doesn't rain enough who are now crying when they run out of water and blaming it on someone else. :coffee:
Again, it's rugged, conservative farmers doing the bitching. :thumb:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:30 pm
by Baldy
Grizalltheway wrote:
Baldy wrote: Or just too many dumbasses choosing to live in an area where it doesn't rain enough who are now crying when they run out of water and blaming it on someone else. :coffee:
Again, it's rugged, conservative farmers doing the bitching. :thumb:
So they are hoarding ALL the water AND bitching about running out? :? :lol:

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:31 pm
by andy7171
Water falls from the sky. I ain't seen no Conk funnel over those wetbacks in the desert planting avacados.

Re: Western Md. Residents Want To Form Their Own State

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:39 pm
by 93henfan
Only because BDK does the same to everyone else:

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:coffee: Scooped by five months.