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This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainable..
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:10 am
by mrklean
Thompson also noted that in the U.S., fast-casual restaurants now appear to be performing a bit better as customers with a little more to spend skew toward those chains. However, McDonald’s main customer base “isn’t faring quite as well in the current economy.” And that’s made competition with rivals such as Burger King and Wendy’s all the more fierce. All three chains have been aggressively promoting their value menus in the fight for customers.
The excuse is that prices should drop as a result. Maybe if we wait another hundred years it might happen. Until then, we can expect more trimming of the labor costs. "Sorry Marcus but you aren't buying enough of our shït and we have to let you go to maintain profits."

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:45 am
by kalm
Wages don't create demand, silly. Low wages and tax cuts do.

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:37 pm
by CID1990
Klean and Klam
sitting in a tree
(philosophical giants)
F U C K I N G
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:41 pm
by CAA Flagship
CID1990 wrote:Klean and Klam
sitting in a tree
(philosophical giants)
F U C K I N G

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:46 pm
by Ibanez
mrklean wrote:Thompson also noted that in the U.S., fast-casual restaurants now appear to be performing a bit better as customers with a little more to spend skew toward those chains. However, McDonald’s main customer base “isn’t faring quite as well in the current economy.” And that’s made competition with rivals such as Burger King and Wendy’s all the more fierce. All three chains have been aggressively promoting their value menus in the fight for customers.
The excuse is that prices should drop as a result. Maybe if we wait another hundred years it might happen. Until then, we can expect more trimming of the labor costs. "Sorry Marcus but you aren't buying enough of our shït and we have to let you go to maintain profits."

Fast food jobs were never meant to be for a mother of 3.

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:16 pm
by kalm
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:18 pm
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:mrklean wrote:Thompson also noted that in the U.S., fast-casual restaurants now appear to be performing a bit better as customers with a little more to spend skew toward those chains. However, McDonald’s main customer base “isn’t faring quite as well in the current economy.” And that’s made competition with rivals such as Burger King and Wendy’s all the more fierce. All three chains have been aggressively promoting their value menus in the fight for customers.
The excuse is that prices should drop as a result. Maybe if we wait another hundred years it might happen. Until then, we can expect more trimming of the labor costs. "Sorry Marcus but you aren't buying enough of our shït and we have to let you go to maintain profits."

Fast food jobs were never meant to be for a mother of 3.

This. And I imagine Walmart and McDonalds were never meant to be our largest employers either.
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:38 pm
by HI54UNI
CID1990 wrote:Klean and Klam
sitting in a tree
(philosophical giants)
F U C K I N G
You are on a roll lately!

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:06 pm
by CID1990
I have to admit it was a moment of creative clarity for me
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:08 pm
by Chizzang
HI54UNI wrote:CID1990 wrote:Klean and Klam
sitting in a tree
(philosophical giants)
F U C K I N G
You are on a roll lately!

I keep trying to tell you people "He's funny"
and mostly CID1990 comes through
Then a religious thread gets rolling and he ruins it buy getting all apologetic, defensive and grumpy
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:16 am
by YoUDeeMan
Chizzang wrote:HI54UNI wrote:
You are on a roll lately!

I keep trying to tell you people "He's funny"
and mostly CID1990 comes through
Then a religious thread gets rolling and he ruins it buy getting all apologetic, defensive and grumpy
Wait...
who ruins threads?

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:20 am
by YoUDeeMan
mrklean wrote:Thompson also noted that in the U.S., fast-casual restaurants now appear to be performing a bit better as customers with a little more to spend skew toward those chains. However, McDonald’s main customer base “isn’t faring quite as well in the current economy.” And that’s made competition with rivals such as Burger King and Wendy’s all the more fierce. All three chains have been aggressively promoting their value menus in the fight for customers.
The excuse is that prices should drop as a result. Maybe if we wait another hundred years it might happen. Until then, we can expect more trimming of the labor costs. "Sorry Marcus but you aren't buying enough of our shït and we have to let you go to maintain profits."

Marcus needs to get an education, needs to stop eating processed foods, and should stop spending his time on video games, texting, and TV.
But suggesting that would be seen as an oppressive attempt to tramp on his freedom to be a loser.
Oh, and his parents should have had a more positive influence on his life...but suggesting that would be seen as hateful.

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:11 am
by mrklean
Cluck U wrote:mrklean wrote:Thompson also noted that in the U.S., fast-casual restaurants now appear to be performing a bit better as customers with a little more to spend skew toward those chains. However, McDonald’s main customer base “isn’t faring quite as well in the current economy.” And that’s made competition with rivals such as Burger King and Wendy’s all the more fierce. All three chains have been aggressively promoting their value menus in the fight for customers.
The excuse is that prices should drop as a result. Maybe if we wait another hundred years it might happen. Until then, we can expect more trimming of the labor costs. "Sorry Marcus but you aren't buying enough of our shït and we have to let you go to maintain profits."

Marcus needs to get an education, needs to stop eating processed foods, and should stop spending his time on video games, texting, and TV.
But suggesting that would be seen as an oppressive attempt to tramp on his freedom to be a loser.
Oh, and his parents should have had a more positive influence on his life...but suggesting that would be seen as hateful.

How do you know he did not have these?
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:27 am
by Ibanez
mrklean wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Marcus needs to get an education, needs to stop eating processed foods, and should stop spending his time on video games, texting, and TV.
But suggesting that would be seen as an oppressive attempt to tramp on his freedom to be a loser.
Oh, and his parents should have had a more positive influence on his life...but suggesting that would be seen as hateful.

How do you know he did not have these?
If you have a college education, and you're working in fast food, you better be the owner.
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:34 am
by YoUDeeMan
mrklean wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Marcus needs to get an education, needs to stop eating processed foods, and should stop spending his time on video games, texting, and TV.
But suggesting that would be seen as an oppressive attempt to tramp on his freedom to be a loser.
Oh, and his parents should have had a more positive influence on his life...but suggesting that would be seen as hateful.

How do you know he did not have these?
Well, since you didn't provide a link, and Marcus is out of a job, in a thread about minimum wage workers, then the odds are that I'm correct about his levels of education and parental involvement.
Prove me wrong.

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:35 am
by YoUDeeMan
Ibanez wrote:mrklean wrote:
How do you know he did not have these?
If you have a college education, and you're working in fast food, you better be the owner.
No, no...he was oppressed. It isn't Marcus' fault.

Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:56 am
by CID1990
Ibanez wrote:mrklean wrote:
How do you know he did not have these?
If you have a college education, and you're working in fast food, you better be the owner.
There's nothing wrong with working in fast food after college- for a lot of kids it is a tie-over while career hunting. Between the navy reserve and the police dept I delivered pizza and worked the golf dept at Kiawah.
I have a classmate we made fun of who literally went to work at Burger King cooking and running a register after graduation. He was in corporate within 6 years- worked his way right up the ladder
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:11 am
by DSUrocks07
All this hubbub about MINIMUM wage jobs.
Like that's what people should strive to achieve in life.
Congrats Marcus, you got a job at McDonald's, you set for life!
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:15 am
by DSUrocks07
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:20 am
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:Ibanez wrote:
If you have a college education, and you're working in fast food, you better be the owner.
There's nothing wrong with working in fast food after college- for a lot of kids it is a tie-over while career hunting. Between the navy reserve and the police dept I delivered pizza and worked the golf dept at Kiawah.
I have a classmate we made fun of who literally went to work at Burger King cooking and running a register after graduation. He was in corporate within 6 years- worked his way right up the ladder
I delivered chinese food, part time until I found a job, but that was after my gig at a hotel. But like you...it wasn't a career. The point is that fast food/minum wage jobs aren't designed to be careers. Your buddy that went corporate has a degree. That isn't who we're talking about. We're talking about those that don't finish high school or college and are at the bottom of the totem pole.
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:21 am
by bandl
Ibanez wrote:We're talking about those that don't finish high school or college and are at the bottom of the totem pole.
HOSE FAULT IZ DAT? THE WHITE FOLK, THATS HOO.
U GODDAMN RAZIST
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am
by Ibanez
bandl wrote:Ibanez wrote:We're talking about those that don't finish high school or college and are at the bottom of the totem pole.
HOSE FAULT IZ DAT? THE WHITE FOLK, THATS HOO.
U GODDAMN RAZIST
Says the guy paying his people in tacos and queso.
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:28 am
by bandl
Ibanez wrote:bandl wrote:
HOSE FAULT IZ DAT? THE WHITE FOLK, THATS HOO.
U GODDAMN RAZIST
Says the guy paying his people in grade D ground meat and pesos.
ACCURACY, BITCH
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:40 am
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:CID1990 wrote:
There's nothing wrong with working in fast food after college- for a lot of kids it is a tie-over while career hunting. Between the navy reserve and the police dept I delivered pizza and worked the golf dept at Kiawah.
I have a classmate we made fun of who literally went to work at Burger King cooking and running a register after graduation. He was in corporate within 6 years- worked his way right up the ladder
I delivered chinese food, part time until I found a job, but that was after my gig at a hotel. But like you...it wasn't a career. The point is that fast food/minum wage jobs aren't designed to be careers. Your buddy that went corporate has a degree. That isn't who we're talking about. We're talking about those that don't finish high school or college and are at the bottom of the totem pole.
And as someone who employs mostly minimum wage workers (insert evil Walmart like employer jokes here), I can tell you there are a surprising amount of people with college degrees and I few with masters degrees willing to work minimum wage as there's still not that much out there. And I'm talking about solid, responsible people some of whom have families, from ages 30 - 50's who have had careers. Not everyone working minimum wage is an underachiever.
Re: This Is Why Stagnant Working Class Wages Are Unsustainab
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:42 am
by Ibanez
kalm wrote:Ibanez wrote:
I delivered chinese food, part time until I found a job, but that was after my gig at a hotel. But like you...it wasn't a career. The point is that fast food/minum wage jobs aren't designed to be careers. Your buddy that went corporate has a degree. That isn't who we're talking about. We're talking about those that don't finish high school or college and are at the bottom of the totem pole.
And as someone who employs mostly minimum wage workers (insert evil Walmart like employer jokes here), I can tell you there are a surprising amount of people with college degrees and I few with masters degrees willing to work minimum wage as there's still not that much out there. And I'm talking about solid, responsible people some of whom have families, from ages 30 - 50's who have had careers. Not everyone working minimum wage is an underachiever.
Ok, so forgive my generalization. But still, when we're talking about Fast Food, primarily those you see protesting, who do you see? It isn't the bus boy at Chili's working his way through college.