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Is Mike Huckabee misunderstood?

Is he right?

Should Republicans stay out of gender politics?

"If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it," Huckabee said at the RNC winter meeting. "Let's take that discussion all across America."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... out-women/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

lol.

This is what GOP "rebranding" and "reaching out to women voters" looks like.

kalm wrote:Is Mike Huckabee misunderstood?

Is he right?

Should Republicans stay out of gender politics?

"If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it," Huckabee said at the RNC winter meeting. "Let's take that discussion all across America."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... out-women/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's gibberish and almost completely nonsensical...
a) Birth control has nothing to do with libido
b) Frequently it is prescribed as a hormone balancing / estrogen level correction
c) It is also prescribed for period cycle regulation
d) and lowering blood loss during periods

And there's more tan that...



When are Republicans going to step out of the middle
between a woman and her doctor..?

particularly on topics where they know quite literally NOTHING
You'd have to use a billboard to announce more loudly that you were this much of an idiot

Other than using the word "libido", he was 100% correct and the Donks know it.

Looking at it from 50,000 feet. On one hand, the Donks scream about not wanting the government in our bedrooms, but on the other they expect the government to subsidize their behavior by supplying the methods of birth control free of charge.

1. Germans should never do stand up comedy.
2. Democrats should never try to run a tight fiscal ship.
3. Republicans should never be entrusted to handle social issues.

Huckabee will probably enter the 2016 GOP primaries and do well. His TV exposure has helped in that regard: he doesn't seem as scary as the last time around. His economic instincts are generally correct, but he's gone off on some odd populist tangents. And he can't stay out of that culture war stuff. He's the last best hope for the evangelical voters in 2016, but he can't beat the Hildabeast unless she implodes.

Chizzang wrote:

kalm wrote:Is Mike Huckabee misunderstood?

Is he right?

Should Republicans stay out of gender politics?




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... out-women/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's gibberish and almost completely nonsensical...
a) Birth control has nothing to do with libido
b) Frequently it is prescribed as a hormone balancing / estrogen level correction
c) It is also prescribed for period cycle regulation
d) and lowering blood loss during periods

And there's more tan that...




particularly on topics where they know quite literally NOTHING
You'd have to use a billboard to announce more loudly that you were this much of an idiot

When are Republicans going to step out of the middle
between a woman and her doctor..?

When Democrats quit making the rest of us fund women who refuse to accept their responsibilities and kill their children on our dime. That's when anti-abortionists, not Republicans, hell most Republicans support abortion, that's when we'll quit.

Baldy wrote:Other than using the word "libido", he was 100% correct and the Donks know it.

Looking at it from 50,000 feet. On one hand, the Donks scream about not wanting the government in our bedrooms, but on the other they expect the government to subsidize their behavior by supplying the methods of birth control free of charge.

My tax dollars should not fund a woman's murder of her child, just as my tax dollars should not fund an American soldier doing the bidding of the empire in a foreign land. They take our money to fund murder, both here and abroad and nobody can deny that.

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:

Baldy wrote:Other than using the word "libido", he was 100% correct and the Donks know it.

Looking at it from 50,000 feet. On one hand, the Donks scream about not wanting the government in our bedrooms, but on the other they expect the government to subsidize their behavior by supplying the methods of birth control free of charge.

My tax dollars should not fund a woman's murder of her child, just as my tax dollars should not fund an American soldier doing the bidding of the empire in a foreign land. They take our money to fund murder, both here and abroad and nobody can deny that.

Umm this one is about birth control, not abortion. But if you are truly anti-abortion, poverty, and generational welfare dependence you should hope anybody, including government, is passing out birth control pills like skittles. Think of it as an investment in our fututre.

I am still trying to understand why republicans think they have some huge women problem. If anything they have a minority problem. The donks demagogued the hell out of the "war on women" canard and Romney still won the majority of the white women vote.

The reality is that most women don't see birth control as some kind of sacred right and don't think every little regulation of abortion is an egregious government encroachment of health care decisions. The donks and single payer advocates are the only ones trying to give government more authority over people's health care.

Pwns wrote:I am still trying to understand why republicans think they have some huge women problem. If anything they have a minority problem. The donks demagogued the hell out of the "war on women" canard and Romney still won the majority of the white women vote.

The reality is that most women don't see birth control as some kind of sacred right and don't think every little regulation of abortion is an egregious government encroachment of health care decisions. The donks and single payer advocates are the only ones trying to give government more authority over people's health care.

Birth control pills are medicine. I'll guarantee most women feel a right to take medicine. What's the percentage women who have taken birth control?

While he could have parsed what he said more tactfully, I agree with the general thrust of his statement (in its entirety... not the cut down version that was tweeted with the intent of creating all the faux outrage): that women are being bandied around by the left the same way the SPCA does with stray animals. Helpless, needing protection.

93henfan wrote:1. Germans should never do stand up comedy.
2. Democrats should never try to run a tight fiscal ship.
3. Republicans should never be entrusted to handle social issues.

kalm wrote:

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:


My tax dollars should not fund a woman's murder of her child, just as my tax dollars should not fund an American soldier doing the bidding of the empire in a foreign land. They take our money to fund murder, both here and abroad and nobody can deny that.

Umm this one is about birth control, not abortion. But if you are truly anti-abortion, poverty, and generational welfare dependence you should hope anybody, including government, is passing out birth control pills like skittles. Think of it as an investment in our fututre.

Maybe men and women should just make a commitment to each other and wait until they are married to learn carnal knowledge, ya know the way it was intended. That would be expecting too much from today's "me, me, me" society though wouldn't it?

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:

kalm wrote:
Umm this one is about birth control, not abortion. But if you are truly anti-abortion, poverty, and generational welfare dependence you should hope anybody, including government, is passing out birth control pills like skittles. Think of it as an investment in our fututre.

Maybe men and women should just make a commitment to each other and wait until they are married to learn carnal knowledge, ya know the way it was intended. That would be expecting too much from today's "me, me, me" society though wouldn't it?

The way it was intended? Maybe God should have waited till we were of marrying age to give us puberty?

There's nothing neccessarily selfish about sex, married or otherwise.

kalm wrote:
Birth control pills are medicine. I'll guarantee most women feel a right to take medicine. What's the percentage women who have taken birth control?

This ^
And arguing this is enlightening
We see the real state of things

kalm wrote:

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:
Maybe men and women should just make a commitment to each other and wait until they are married to learn carnal knowledge, ya know the way it was intended. That would be expecting too much from today's "me, me, me" society though wouldn't it?

The way it was intended? Maybe God should have waited till we were of marrying age to give us puberty?

There's nothing neccessarily selfish about sex, married or otherwise.

So the sex trafficking of minors isn't selfish by the perpetrators that promote and endorse this? It is a SEXUAL ACT at the end of day isn't it? Penetration, oral, anal or otherwise.

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:

kalm wrote:
The way it was intended? Maybe God should have waited till we were of marrying age to give us puberty?

There's nothing neccessarily selfish about sex, married or otherwise.

So the sex trafficking of minors isn't selfish by the perpetrators that promote and endorse this? It is a SEXUAL ACT at the end of day isn't it? Penetration, oral, anal or otherwise.

We weren't talking about forced sex.

kalm wrote:

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:
So the sex trafficking of minors isn't selfish by the perpetrators that promote and endorse this? It is a SEXUAL ACT at the end of day isn't it? Penetration, oral, anal or otherwise.

We weren't talking about forced sex.

As this debate moves forward
The neurotic afflictions of the Republican party will begin to reveal themselves
(they are already sneaking out) Women / Doctors / Babies / Sex)
The whole thing is a conundrum for them

kalm wrote:

FCS PATRIOTS wrote:


My tax dollars should not fund a woman's murder of her child, just as my tax dollars should not fund an American soldier doing the bidding of the empire in a foreign land. They take our money to fund murder, both here and abroad and nobody can deny that.

Umm this one is about birth control, not abortion. But if you are truly anti-abortion, poverty, and generational welfare dependence you should hope anybody, including government, is passing out birth control pills like skittles. Think of it as an investment in our fututre.

Why aren't lower income people recognizing that Democrats are trying to prevent more births among certain demographics?

Truly evil...disguised as a helping hand.

Good Lord

It isn't difficult, people.

Killing of the innocent is wrong.

We just have to figure out at what point that parasitic mass of flesh becomes an innocent life.

I want someone here to try to justify elective abortion in the third trimester. That would be fun

I'd be willing to concede the 20 week mark to the abortionist crowd.... but they don't want that concession. They want the killing choice all the way up to the moment of natural birth- and are willing to promote the war on women meme to do it

Right now, we have a pink shod gold digging filibusterer in Texas being lionized by the liberals because.... opposing late term abortion and enforcing medical standards on abortion clinics is a "war on women".

So let's talk about at what point abortion becomes murder- because that's where the solution lies here- if anyone really wants to have an honest, non-obfuscatory debate that doesn't ignore the fact that what we are arguing is what circumstances make killing the unborn acceptable

CID1990 wrote:Good Lord

It isn't difficult, people.

Killing of the innocent is wrong.

Obviously it is that difficult.

BIRTH CONTROL.

NOT ABORTION.

There's no killing of fetuses involved in Huckabee's quote.. It's not even talking about the morning after pill.

Cluck U wrote:

kalm wrote:
Umm this one is about birth control, not abortion. But if you are truly anti-abortion, poverty, and generational welfare dependence you should hope anybody, including government, is passing out birth control pills like skittles. Think of it as an investment in our fututre.

Why aren't lower income people recognizing that Democrats are trying to prevent more births among certain demographics?

Truly evil...disguised as a helping hand.

We should all be for preventing births amongst people who can't afford it.

Racist

I always thought "libido" was more of a guy thing. Who knew?