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Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:38 am
by kalm
Is Walmart the largest welfare recipient in America? If the minimum wage was increased, would Walmart hire less people? Would they be forced to increase prices? Does Walmart suffer from high wage states like Washington? Do they hire less people there? Does unemployment go up when states raise their minimum wage? Would an increased minimum wage really move some off of assistance or would they take those wages and simply spend them on affordable products at their local....Walmart? :lol:
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) demanded that a panel of experts justify why America’s shrinking middle class should continue to subsidize the nation’s wealthiest family in a heated exchange Thursday during a congressional panel.

The Senate’s lone independent pointed out during the panel on income inequality that more Americans were currently living in poverty than at any point in the nation’s history as the top 1 percent siphoned off 95 percent of all income generated between 2009 and 2012.

“Does anyone on that panel … think that that makes moral sense or economic sense?” Sanders asked. “Does anybody think it makes moral or economic sense that one family, the Walton family, owns more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of the American people?”

“Do you think the Walton family, worth a hundred billion dollars, is in need of welfare from the middle class of this country, or do you think maybe we should raise the minimum wage so that those workers can earn a living wage and not have to get Medicaid or food stamps?” Sanders asked the panel.

The first panelist, Scott Winship, of the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, offered to answer an earlier question, but Sanders insisted that he justify why taxpayers should subsidize Walmart’s wages with welfare.

“I would not use the word welfare, I think it’s stigmatizing,” Winship said, adding that Walmart offered low prices to its customers.

The exchange turned testy, as Sanders continued to insist that Winship answer the question as he’d asked it.

“I think that we should not raise the wage above levels that’s going to cause Walmart to not hire their workers,” Winship said. “The only way that they’re able to have the prices, which benefit low-income people more than people up on the income distribution (scale), is by paying wages that are not as high as you or I might like.”

“That is corporate welfare of the worst kind,” said Reich, a public policy professor at the University of California-Berkeley.

Reich added that Walmart, the nation’s largest private employer, paid its workers an average of $8.80 an hour. By comparison, he said, the nation’s largest employer in 1955 was General Motors, which paid workers an average of $37 an hour in today’s money.
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Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:45 am
by grizzaholic
Didn't Walmart start making loans to employees, at a reasonable rate, so they could live?

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:40 am
by CID1990
Bernie Sanders

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:24 am
by grizfnz
grizzaholic wrote:Didn't Walmart start making loans to employees, at a reasonable rate, so they could live?
Walmart's contibution to their "associates" is setting up kiosks in break rooms with information on how to apply for food and medical assistance at the local welfare office.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:39 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:Bernie Sanders
American Enterprise Institute

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:15 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
I stopped reading at Bernie Sanders

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:21 am
by kalm
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I stopped reading at Bernie Sanders
Improvement!

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:39 pm
by Col Hogan
CID1990 wrote:Bernie Sanders
Is not an Independent...he is an avowed Socialist...

Why not be honest???

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:22 pm
by AZGrizFan
Col Hogan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Bernie Sanders
Is not an Independent...he is an avowed Socialist...

Why not be honest???
I throw up in my mouth a little every time he's identified as an "independent". :roll: :| :roll:

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:26 pm
by FCS PATRIOTS
The Walton family is the personification of corporate capitalism run amok. Would love to see every WAL-MART bankrupted and left for dead and these people answer for their corporate greed. :nod: :nod: :nod:

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:35 pm
by BDKJMU
Those 15-24, the majority of those currently making the current fed minimum wage of 7.25 an hr, don't need an increase in the minimum wage. Teenagers, high school & college age, mostly living at home with mommy & daddy, on their 1st job(s), don't need to be making $10 an hr...

The minimum wage should be left up to the states. They should be allowed to set their own wage at whatever level they choose.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:33 pm
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:Those 15-24, the majority of those currently making the current fed minimum wage of 7.25 an hr, don't need an increase in the minimum wage. Teenagers, high school & college age, mostly living at home with mommy & daddy, on their 1st job(s), don't need to be making $10 an hr...

The minimum wage should be left up to the states. They should be allowed to set their own wage at whatever level they choose.
The median age of big box retail workers is 30. For Mcdonalds workers it's 29.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:58 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Is not an Independent...he is an avowed Socialist...

Why not be honest???
I throw up in my mouth a little every time he's identified as an "independent". :roll: :| :roll:
Why? He's a self described socialist who has won against candidates from both parties during his career.

Boo! :lol:

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:42 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Independent =/= moderate.

Independent = unaffiliated with either of the two major parties.

Bernie Sanders isn't a moderate, but he most definitely is independent.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:24 pm
by kalm
Skjellyfetti wrote:Independent =/= moderate.

Independent = unaffiliated with either of the two major parties.

Bernie Sanders isn't a moderate, but he most definitely is independent.
:nod:

And he's co-written legislation with Ron Paul.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I throw up in my mouth a little every time he's identified as an "independent". :roll: :| :roll:
Why? He's a self described socialistic who has won against candidates from both parties during his career.

Boo! :lol:
So, he's not an independent then. He's a far, far, far left democrat.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:48 pm
by VictorG
I like their parking lots. I leave my car there often when catching a ride with others....

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:10 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Why? He's a self described socialistic who has won against candidates from both parties during his career.

Boo! :lol:
So, he's not an independent then. He's a far, far, far left democrat.
:coffee:

But I'd stay away from the topic too. :thumb:

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
FCS PATRIOTS wrote:The Walton family is the personification of corporate capitalism run amok. Would love to see every WAL-MART bankrupted and left for dead and these people answer for their corporate greed. :nod: :nod: :nod:
I refuse to shop there. Will NOT set foot inside one.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:26 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
So, he's not an independent then. He's a far, far, far left democrat.
:coffee:

But I'd stay away from the topic too. :thumb:
What the fuck does that mean?

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:37 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Those 15-24, the majority of those currently making the current fed minimum wage of 7.25 an hr, don't need an increase in the minimum wage. Teenagers, high school & college age, mostly living at home with mommy & daddy, on their 1st job(s), don't need to be making $10 an hr...

The minimum wage should be left up to the states. They should be allowed to set their own wage at whatever level they choose.
The median age of big box retail workers is 30. For Mcdonalds workers it's 29.
Offset and skewed by the 60+ year old retirees looking to get out of the house and supplement their retirement income. :coffee:

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:39 pm
by Baldy
AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
:coffee:

But I'd stay away from the topic too. :thumb:
What the fuck does that mean?
It means he wants you to go fishing for red herring.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:44 pm
by AZGrizFan
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
The median age of big box retail workers is 30. For Mcdonalds workers it's 29.
Offset and skewed by the 60+ year old retirees looking to get out of the house and supplement their retirement income. :coffee:
Wonder what the AVERAGE age is. Median is such a misleading stat.

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:34 pm
by CID1990
kalm wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Independent =/= moderate.

Independent = unaffiliated with either of the two major parties.

Bernie Sanders isn't a moderate, but he most definitely is independent.
:nod:

And he's co-written legislation with Ron Paul.
One day when one of us is no longer associated with the gummint I will tell you a personal story about Bernie Sanders.

A story along the lines of crazy ol Uncle Bernie

Re: Walmart on Welfare

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:36 pm
by DSUrocks07
AZGrizFan wrote:
Baldy wrote: Offset and skewed by the 60+ year old retirees looking to get out of the house and supplement their retirement income. :coffee:
Wonder what the AVERAGE age is. Median is such a misleading stat.
What other reason would it ever be used?