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Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:57 pm
by AZGrizFan
STEPHEN A. SMITH: I have profound respect for the iconic figure that is Jim Brown, what he's done in the sports world, the political conscience that is attached to him. But what he said, I deem inappropriate. I thought it was wrong, and more importantly, I thought it highlighted something, Skip, that I told you many, many years ago -- I mean many shows ago. Actually, not that many shows ago.
When it comes to the African-American community, you have a plethora of individuals. For example, the black population hasn't given the Republican Party more than 15% of its vote since 1964. And anybody who is deemed a black conservative, I am not one of them -- I'm a registered Independent, just to get that out of the way -- but those that I know who are black conservatives are considered pariahs and are ostracized in our communities and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
But this is how -- this is a problem that exists within our community. Because you are from our community, everybody believes that everybody is supposed to be identical to one another and we can't display or exercise any kind of versatility, alright, or range in our thinking. It's a problem that we have to deal with. It's an internal problem that exists and we're going to have to handle it because if we don't we're gonna see more Jim Brown's speaking out against more Kobe Bryant's and we're gonna see more Kobe Bryant's retaliating against the likes of Jim Brown. (via MFP)
Hate to say it, but he is spot ON with these comments. Good for him for stepping up. Of course now HE will be ostracized...
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:17 pm
by grizzaholic
He is racists. His comments don't count. I will change the radio station or TV program if he comes on.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:20 pm
by Vidav
I am the laziest person ever, what did Brown say that caused this?
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:26 pm
by Grizalltheway
Of course you don't want to like a black guy.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:Of course you don't want to like a black guy.
I like lots of black guys. Because I don't like a couple that makes me racist?
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:04 am
by CAA Flagship
He is a very sharp guy. And people that know him speak highly of him.
I hate is "pissed-off", on-air, persona. And the pace of his speech. And the accent.
But I'm rarely in disagreement with what he says.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:15 am
by andy7171
CAA Flagship wrote:He is a very sharp guy. And people that know him speak highly of him.
I hate is "pissed-off", on-air, persona. And the pace of his speech. And the accent.
But I'm rarely in disagreement with what he says.
This. The way he acts on TV makes me want to dislike him, but I can't say I disagree with what he says most of the time.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:43 am
by Pwns
Grizalltheway wrote:Of course you don't want to like a black guy.
Black dudes get all the black chicks.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:57 am
by ASUG8
Sounds like Jim Brown is just expressing sour grapes that not everyone wants to be a pariah like he was/is. Favorite targets Kobe, Tiger and Jordan have all had their share of the spotlight off the court already for other issues and their credibility as coming out for some cause Brown deems "their responsibility as an athlete" is somewhat eroded.
FTR, I agree with Smith on this, but these guys would IMHO erode their earnings potential by coming out strongly on one side of some social issue. Brown doesn't care, the others likely do. You can live by example without taking some huge public stance like Brown chooses to do - his star fizzled out years ago and he's trying to remain relevant.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:04 am
by Ibanez
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:17 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:Of course you don't want to like a black guy.
I like lots of black guys. Because I don't like a couple that makes me racist?
Well, yes that and you hate hispanics and arabs and asians and eskimos.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:21 am
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
I like lots of black guys. Because I don't like a couple that makes me racist?
Well, yes that and you hate hispanics and arabs and asians and eskimos.
Just some.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:39 am
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:Of course you don't want to like a black guy.
I like lots of black guys. Because I don't like a couple that makes me racist?
Hook.
Line.
Sinker.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:25 am
by ASUMountaineer
ASUG8 wrote:Sounds like Jim Brown is just expressing sour grapes that not everyone wants to be a pariah like he was/is. Favorite targets Kobe, Tiger and Jordan have all had their share of the spotlight off the court already for other issues and their credibility as coming out for some cause Brown deems "their responsibility as an athlete" is somewhat eroded.
FTR, I agree with Smith on this, but these guys would IMHO erode their earnings potential by coming out strongly on one side of some social issue. Brown doesn't care, the others likely do. You can live by example without taking some huge public stance like Brown chooses to do - his star fizzled out years ago and he's trying to remain relevant.
Wasn't Jordan who reasoned, "Republicans buy shoes too?" Jordan is too smart to pull a "Jim Brown." Brown has a tendency to come off as self-serving in picking issues, whereas Jordan makes no bones about self-serving when it comes to profit.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:35 am
by grizzaholic
CAA Flagship wrote:He is a very sharp guy. And people that know him speak highly of him.
I hate is "pissed-off", on-air, persona. And the pace of his speech. And the accent.
But I'm rarely in disagreement with what he says.
Bull fucking shit. You are an idiot if you rarely disagree with him. Don't expect anything from me this xmas.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:40 am
by CAA Flagship
Jim Brown is a jerk. I wanna take a giant can opener and pop that stupid looking cap off of his head.
.....and then run like hell.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:07 am
by Ibanez
So what did he say?
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:37 am
by dbackjon
Ibanez wrote:So what did he say?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/wha ... 60065.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/11/jim-brown ... -tmzsports" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:49 am
by Chizzang
Some folks are interested in social change
Some folks are interested in more money
Jim Brown just needs to deal with it... However: I think he's right to express his concerns in general but I wouldn't expect Jordan and Bryant to do anything different / and who would..?
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:29 pm
by andy7171
D1B wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
I like lots of black guys. Because I don't like a couple that makes me racist?
Well, yes that and you hate hispanics and arabs and asians and eskimos.
Don't get me started on the Eskimos!
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:05 pm
by CAA Flagship
andy7171 wrote:D1B wrote:
Well, yes that and you hate hispanics and arabs and asians and eskimos.
Don't get me started on the Eskimos!
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:40 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Herm Edwards is another asshole who turns up the "ghetto" volume on TV.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:45 pm
by D1B
Cap'n Cat wrote:Herm Edwards is another asshole who turns up the "ghetto" volume on TV.
IMO, Smith isn't "Ghetto." Smith acts exactly like every bombastic white sports dork on TV, which is why racists/conks like Z and Grizzinhaledick hate him.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:23 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:Herm Edwards is another asshole who turns up the "ghetto" volume on TV.
IMO, Smith isn't "Ghetto." Smith acts exactly like every bombastic white sports dork on TV, which is why racists/conks like Z and Grizzinhaledick hate him.
OK, sure.
Re: Please God, I do NOT want to LIKE Stephen A. Smith...
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:25 pm
by JohnStOnge
Kenneth...what's the frequency?
