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Afghanistan...we're planning on giving those goat fvckers $4 BILLION per year...and that is on top of several billion from NATO.

"Behind a seemingly never-ending game of brinkmanship with the United States over a bilateral security agreement, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has a simple goal, according to U.S. military officials: Ensure that billions of dollars in aid from Washington continues to flow to feed the cycle of corruption that keeps him in power.

But Pentagon officials say the CIA has helped feed the system with “off-the-books” satchels of cash -- “tens of millions of dollars” that it delivers to the Presidential Palace in Kabul on a regular schedule.

The cash payments began prior to Karzai becoming president on Dec. 22, 2001, beginning while he was in exile during the last years of the Taliban regime, one former U.S. intelligence official told NBC News, speaking on condition of anonymity. It's not clear if Karzai would continue to be the conduit for such payments after he leaves office.

The CIA declined to comment on the payments.

Karzai openly admits receiving the money, saying he needs it to pay government officials. But there is zero accountability and it’s widely accepted within the U.S. government that whatever Karzai doesn’t pocket he doles out in political and protection payoffs. He also is believed to have smuggled “hundreds of millions of dollars” out of the country, much of which flowed directly from the U.S. Treasury, the U.S. military officials say."

CHANGE.

Cluck U wrote:Afghanistan...we're planning on giving those goat fvckers $4 BILLION per year...and that is on top of several billion from NATO.

"Behind a seemingly never-ending game of brinkmanship with the United States over a bilateral security agreement, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has a simple goal, according to U.S. military officials: Ensure that billions of dollars in aid from Washington continues to flow to feed the cycle of corruption that keeps him in power.

But Pentagon officials say the CIA has helped feed the system with “off-the-books” satchels of cash -- “tens of millions of dollars” that it delivers to the Presidential Palace in Kabul on a regular schedule.

The cash payments began prior to Karzai becoming president on Dec. 22, 2001, beginning while he was in exile during the last years of the Taliban regime, one former U.S. intelligence official told NBC News, speaking on condition of anonymity. It's not clear if Karzai would continue to be the conduit for such payments after he leaves office.

The CIA declined to comment on the payments.

Karzai openly admits receiving the money, saying he needs it to pay government officials. But there is zero accountability and it’s widely accepted within the U.S. government that whatever Karzai doesn’t pocket he doles out in political and protection payoffs. He also is believed to have smuggled “hundreds of millions of dollars” out of the country, much of which flowed directly from the U.S. Treasury, the U.S. military officials say."

CHANGE.

We dick away that much money on shitty-azz defense projects that don't work.

mrklean wrote:

Cluck U wrote:Afghanistan...we're planning on giving those goat fvckers $4 BILLION per year...and that is on top of several billion from NATO.

"Behind a seemingly never-ending game of brinkmanship with the United States over a bilateral security agreement, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has a simple goal, according to U.S. military officials: Ensure that billions of dollars in aid from Washington continues to flow to feed the cycle of corruption that keeps him in power.

But Pentagon officials say the CIA has helped feed the system with “off-the-books” satchels of cash -- “tens of millions of dollars” that it delivers to the Presidential Palace in Kabul on a regular schedule.

The cash payments began prior to Karzai becoming president on Dec. 22, 2001, beginning while he was in exile during the last years of the Taliban regime, one former U.S. intelligence official told NBC News, speaking on condition of anonymity. It's not clear if Karzai would continue to be the conduit for such payments after he leaves office.

The CIA declined to comment on the payments.

Karzai openly admits receiving the money, saying he needs it to pay government officials. But there is zero accountability and it’s widely accepted within the U.S. government that whatever Karzai doesn’t pocket he doles out in political and protection payoffs. He also is believed to have smuggled “hundreds of millions of dollars” out of the country, much of which flowed directly from the U.S. Treasury, the U.S. military officials say."

CHANGE.

We dick away that much money on shitty-azz defense projects that don't work.

Then why don't we save $8B and not do either?

mrklean wrote:

Cluck U wrote:Afghanistan...we're planning on giving those goat fvckers $4 BILLION per year...and that is on top of several billion from NATO.

"Behind a seemingly never-ending game of brinkmanship with the United States over a bilateral security agreement, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has a simple goal, according to U.S. military officials: Ensure that billions of dollars in aid from Washington continues to flow to feed the cycle of corruption that keeps him in power.

But Pentagon officials say the CIA has helped feed the system with “off-the-books” satchels of cash -- “tens of millions of dollars” that it delivers to the Presidential Palace in Kabul on a regular schedule.

The cash payments began prior to Karzai becoming president on Dec. 22, 2001, beginning while he was in exile during the last years of the Taliban regime, one former U.S. intelligence official told NBC News, speaking on condition of anonymity. It's not clear if Karzai would continue to be the conduit for such payments after he leaves office.

The CIA declined to comment on the payments.

Karzai openly admits receiving the money, saying he needs it to pay government officials. But there is zero accountability and it’s widely accepted within the U.S. government that whatever Karzai doesn’t pocket he doles out in political and protection payoffs. He also is believed to have smuggled “hundreds of millions of dollars” out of the country, much of which flowed directly from the U.S. Treasury, the U.S. military officials say."

CHANGE.

We dick away that much money on shitty-azz defense projects that don't work.

Oh, well never mind then.

AZGrizFan wrote:

mrklean wrote:

We dick away that much money on shitty-azz defense projects that don't work.

Oh, well never mind then.

IJS

Unfortunately, Clucky, it's often the price of doing business with those clowns. It bothers me, too. Woulda been done by a Conk prez. However, hats off to Rice for getting shitty with Karzai and threatening to pull him off the teet.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Unfortunately, Clucky, it's often the price of doing business with those clowns. It bothers me, too. Woulda been done by a Conk prez. However, hats off to Rice for getting shitty with Karzai and threatening to pull him off the teet.

Hats off? The very fact that we threatened to leave, and take our money with us, is proof that we don't need to be there. What can Obama say? Seriously.

Obama: My fellow Americans...I've said we would pull out by 2014, but I'm going back on yet another promise. We absolutely need to stay in Afghanistan because the Taliban...er...Al Qaeda...are bad people who threaten our survival. So it is imperative that we stay and prop up some drug dealing clown with $4 billion of your money...per year or American will lose lives. Trust me, this is for your safety, or we'd be out of there.

[Rice whispers in Obama's ear]

Obama, to Rice: That mother f-cker wants more money? F him! Deal's off!

Reporter: But what about the safety of Americans?

Obama: What?


Seriously, we have no real business over there...there is no credible threat to the U.S. from a bunch of goat herders. This is all about military spending...and a heap load of minerals.

Unbelievable - yet so believable.













It is amazing that the American public isn't going ape shit over this.

Cluck U wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:Unfortunately, Clucky, it's often the price of doing business with those clowns. It bothers me, too. Woulda been done by a Conk prez. However, hats off to Rice for getting shitty with Karzai and threatening to pull him off the teet.

Hats off? The very fact that we threatened to leave, and take our money with us, is proof that we don't need to be there. What can Obama say? Seriously.

Obama: My fellow Americans...I've said we would pull out by 2014, but I'm going back on yet another promise. We absolutely need to stay in Afghanistan because the Taliban...er...Al Qaeda...are bad people who threaten our survival. So it is imperative that we stay and prop up some drug dealing clown with $4 billion of your money...per year or American will lose lives. Trust me, this is for your safety, or we'd be out of there.

[Rice whispers in Obama's ear]

Obama, to Rice: That mother f-cker wants more money? F him! Deal's off!

Reporter: But what about the safety of Americans?

Obama: What?


Seriously, we have no real business over there...there is no credible threat to the U.S. from a bunch of goat herders. This is all about military spending...and a heap load of minerals.

Unbelievable - yet so believable.


It is amazing that the American public isn't going ape shit over this.

Um, remember that he wasn't the fucker who brought there. Ahem.......... Pulling out of Afghaniraq ain't like moving a couch to your sister's place, son.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

Um, remember that he wasn't the fucker who brought there. Ahem.......... Pulling out of Afghaniraq ain't like moving a couch to your sister's place, son.

You must be kidding. There is no reason to bring up Bush unless you are simply being stupid.

Just send planes over and pull out our money, supplies, and people. It really isn't that complicated. Afghanistan will once again become a land ruled by opium dealing warlords (with a boatload more cash from good ol' US of A). If the Taliban return, who cares? Just make sure they understand that if they harbor any AQ training bases, we'll bomb them back to the stone age. They can have their little warlord battles and we can concentrate on educating our kids (and saving our lives).

We pulled out of Iraq...you do know that, right (over Obama's objections)? So we can pull out of Afghanistan. It is not rocket science to remove your troops.

Cluck U wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:

Um, remember that he wasn't the fucker who brought there. Ahem.......... Pulling out of Afghaniraq ain't like moving a couch to your sister's place, son.

You must be kidding. There is no reason to bring up Bush unless you are simply being stupid.

Just send planes over and pull out our money, supplies, and people. It really isn't that complicated. Afghanistan will once again become a land ruled by opium dealing warlords (with a boatload more cash from good ol' US of A). If the Taliban return, who cares? Just make sure they understand that if they harbor any AQ training bases, we'll bomb them back to the stone age. They can have their little warlord battles and we can concentrate on educating our kids (and saving our lives).

We pulled out of Iraq...you do know that, right (over Obama's objections)? So we can pull out of Afghanistan. It is not rocket science to remove your troops.

You're right, Clucky. In your caveman world.

More W messes cleaned up by Obama and company. He's gonna need five terms........

Cap'n Cat wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
You must be kidding. There is no reason to bring up Bush unless you are simply being stupid.

Just send planes over and pull out our money, supplies, and people. It really isn't that complicated. Afghanistan will once again become a land ruled by opium dealing warlords (with a boatload more cash from good ol' US of A). If the Taliban return, who cares? Just make sure they understand that if they harbor any AQ training bases, we'll bomb them back to the stone age. They can have their little warlord battles and we can concentrate on educating our kids (and saving our lives).

We pulled out of Iraq...you do know that, right (over Obama's objections)? So we can pull out of Afghanistan. It is not rocket science to remove your troops.

You're right, Clucky. In your caveman world.

More W messes cleaned up by Obama and company. He's gonna need five terms........

Is that why Obama said Afghanistan was the right war?

And what does writing huge checks to Karzai without any kind of oversight have to do with Dubya?

Pwns wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:

You're right, Clucky. In your caveman world.

More W messes cleaned up by Obama and company. He's gonna need five terms........

Is that why Obama said Afghanistan was the right war?

And what does writing huge checks to Karzai without any kind of oversight have to do with Dubya?

Stupid is only stupid when it's done by the other party.

I remember in 08, when the REPUKES said that Obama would cut and run. Now its, why are we there?

Cluck U wrote:If the Taliban return, who cares? Just make sure they understand that if they harbor any AQ training bases, we'll bomb them back to the stone age.

So, a whole week then?

Let's not play dumb here people...
U.S. Mining rights alone in Afghanistan are worth hundreds and hundreds of Billions
(Fact) Gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas and oil
(Fact) Afghanistan's resources make it one of the richest mining regions in the world

We can't set up mining operations there (and we already have) for free

Chizzang wrote:Let's not play dumb here people...
U.S. Mining rights alone in Afghanistan are worth hundreds and hundreds of Billions
(Fact) Gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas and oil
(Fact) Afghanistan's resources make it one of the richest mining regions in the world

We can't set up mining operations there (and we already have) for free

Sounds a lot like "we'll pay for it with oil"

You can't mine in places that aren't stable, and Afghanistan will never be stable.

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Let's not play dumb here people...
U.S. Mining rights alone in Afghanistan are worth hundreds and hundreds of Billions
(Fact) Gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas and oil
(Fact) Afghanistan's resources make it one of the richest mining regions in the world

We can't set up mining operations there (and we already have) for free

Sounds a lot like "we'll pay for it with oil"

You can't mine in places that aren't stable, and Afghanistan will never be stable.

We already are mining over there... So somebody thinks it's possible
I think it's a 10 year plan (according to wall street)
and we started our Oil Operations there in July
apparently "it's all coming together"

Some estimates have Afghan Mining ops at a cool trillion
http://www.mining.com/afghanistan-miner ... ars-82470/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chizzang wrote:Let's not play dumb here people...
U.S. Mining rights alone in Afghanistan are worth hundreds and hundreds of Billions
(Fact) Gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas and oil
(Fact) Afghanistan's resources make it one of the richest mining regions in the world

We can't set up mining operations there (and we already have) for free

Hell Im ok with that, just tell the truth. Thet problem is that we are in the Middle East and Im still paying $3.00/ per Gallon for Gas.

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Sounds a lot like "we'll pay for it with oil"

You can't mine in places that aren't stable, and Afghanistan will never be stable.

We already are mining over there... So somebody thinks it's possible
I think it's a 10 year plan (according to wall street)
and we started our Oil Operations there in July
apparently "it's all coming together"

Some estimates have Afghan Mining ops at a cool trillion
http://www.mining.com/afghanistan-miner ... ars-82470/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So we have to conquer the country, stabilize it and then we can reap the benefits of all those natural resources (i.e. rape the planet). Sounds easy enough.

mrklean wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Let's not play dumb here people...
U.S. Mining rights alone in Afghanistan are worth hundreds and hundreds of Billions
(Fact) Gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas and oil
(Fact) Afghanistan's resources make it one of the richest mining regions in the world

We can't set up mining operations there (and we already have) for free

Hell Im ok with that, just tell the truth. Thet problem is that we are in the Middle East and Im still paying $3.00/ per Gallon for Gas.

Of course you're cool with that. Breaking into someone else's home, or country, to steal their goods, while killing off the owners and some of your peeps, while lying about why you are there, is part of your thug mentality.

That quip about telling the truth...

Ibanez wrote: So we have to conquer the country, stabilize it and then we can reap the benefits of all those natural resources (i.e. rape the planet). Sounds easy enough.

Pelosi: we had to rape and conquer it before we knew what is in it.










***And your definition of "Stabilize" is a hoot.

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote: So we have to conquer the country, stabilize it and then we can reap the benefits of all those natural resources (i.e. rape the planet). Sounds easy enough.

Pelosi: we had to rape and conquer it before we knew what is in it.










***And your definition of "Stabilize" is a hoot.

Stabilizing Afghanistan would be the wholesale slaughter of its inhabitants that aren't "for us." Wouldn't you agree?

Ibanez wrote:

Cluck U wrote:

Pelosi: we had to rape and conquer it before we knew what is in it.










***And your definition of "Stabilize" is a hoot.

Stabilizing Afghanistan would be the wholesale slaughter of its inhabitants that aren't "for us." Wouldn't you agree?

Well, if it were a wholesale slaughter, instead of retail, you'd think we'd get a better price.

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Stabilizing Afghanistan would be the wholesale slaughter of its inhabitants that aren't "for us." Wouldn't you agree?

Well, if it were a wholesale slaughter, instead of retail, you'd think we'd get a better price.

You think that $4b is marked up about 70%? You may be right.

Cluck U wrote:

mrklean wrote:
Hell Im ok with that, just tell the truth. Thet problem is that we are in the Middle East and Im still paying $3.00/ per Gallon for Gas.

Of course you're cool with that. Breaking into someone else's home, or country, to steal their goods, while killing off the owners and some of your peeps, while lying about why you are there, is part of your thug mentality.

That quip about telling the truth...

YEAH, WE LEARNED ALL OF THAT SHYT FROM WHITE MEN, THE CLASS ROOMS WHERE IN AFRICA, ASIA AND THE AMERICAS. YEAH, YOU GUYS ARE GREAT TEACHERS