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Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:07 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:05 pm
by Chizzang
America is the ONLY country in the world stupid enough to do what we do...

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:33 pm
by houndawg
Afghanistan is a treasure house of strategically valuable rare earth elements, many of which the Chinese have a near monopoly on and some of which go for upwards of $100,000/ton. It doesn't matter who is in office we're in Afghanistan for the long haul when that kind of wealth is in play.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:56 pm
by Chizzang
houndawg wrote:Afghanistan is a treasure house of strategically valuable rare earth elements, many of which the Chinese have a near monopoly on and some of which go for upwards of $100,000/ton. It doesn't matter who is in office we're in Afghanistan for the long haul when that kind of wealth is in play.

It's all about the resources...
Even the U.S. conquest of central america was about fruits and vegetables (as sad as that seems)
The good news is we get bananas for $.69 a lb
The Soviets (during their quagmire) were using a pipeline system to export the Natural Gas out of Afghanistan
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:16 pm
by SDHornet
Wasn't Iraq about resources? W got fried (among other things) for the whole blood for oil thing. Why is Obama getting pass for keeping us in the Graveyard of Empires? How much of those resources are heading our way? This reeks of a double standard imo.
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:18 pm
by Chizzang
SDHornet wrote:Wasn't Iraq about resources? W got fried (among other things) for the whole blood for oil thing. Why is Obama getting pass for keeping us in the Graveyard of Empires? How much of those resources are heading our way? This reeks of a double standard imo.
Obama's not getting a pass from me...
And yes this is the classic Political Double Standard

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:05 am
by CitadelGrad
SDHornet wrote:Wasn't Iraq about resources? W got fried (among other things) for the whole blood for oil thing. Why is Obama getting pass for keeping us in the Graveyard of Empires? How much of those resources are heading our way? This reeks of a double standard imo.
Americans know that oil is bad. Most Americans can't name even one rare earth element.
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:29 am
by houndawg
SDHornet wrote:Wasn't Iraq about resources? W got fried (among other things) for the whole blood for oil thing. Why is Obama getting pass for keeping us in the Graveyard of Empires? How much of those resources are heading our way? This reeks of a double standard imo.
I'm not giving him a pass, I said it was time to leave the day after he got bin Laden.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:33 am
by mrklean
No dyckhead this is Bush's War. Remember WMD's, oh thats the lie to get us in Iraq.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:55 am
by Ibanez
mrklean wrote:
No dyckhead this is Bush's War. Remember WMD's, oh thats the lie to get us in Iraq.

It ceased to be Bush's war when Obama perpetuated the military action. Bush has been out of office for 5 years, at some point Obama will HAVE TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY. Why can't you see that? Why are you so damn partisan?
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:00 am
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:mrklean wrote:
No dyckhead this is Bush's War. Remember WMD's, oh thats the lie to get us in Iraq.

It ceased to be Bush's war when Obama perpetuated the military action. Bush has been out of office for 5 years, at some point Obama will HAVE TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY. Why can't you see that? Why are you so damn partisan?
Black men have difficulty accepting responsibility for anything.
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:15 am
by ASUG8
houndawg wrote:Afghanistan is a treasure house of strategically valuable rare earth elements, many of which the Chinese have a near monopoly on and some of which go for upwards of $100,000/ton. It doesn't matter who is in office we're in Afghanistan for the long haul when that kind of wealth is in play.

Kind of like all the Iraqi oil we were going to plunder.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:41 am
by Ibanez
AZGrizFan wrote:Ibanez wrote:
It ceased to be Bush's war when Obama perpetuated the military action. Bush has been out of office for 5 years, at some point Obama will HAVE TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY. Why can't you see that? Why are you so damn partisan?
Black men have difficulty accepting responsibility for anything.
Oh damn...
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:52 am
by D1B
Ibanez wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Black men have difficulty accepting responsibility for anything.
Oh damn...
Its true.
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:56 am
by Ibanez
D1B wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Oh damn...
Its true.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:01 am
by mrklean
AZGrizFan wrote:Ibanez wrote:
It ceased to be Bush's war when Obama perpetuated the military action. Bush has been out of office for 5 years, at some point Obama will HAVE TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY. Why can't you see that? Why are you so damn partisan?
Black men have difficulty accepting responsibility for anything.
We learned from white men

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:01 am
by mrklean
mrklean wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Black men have difficulty accepting responsibility for anything.
We learned that from white men

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:02 am
by HI54UNI
AZGrizFan wrote:Ibanez wrote:
It ceased to be Bush's war when Obama perpetuated the military action. Bush has been out of office for 5 years, at some point Obama will HAVE TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY. Why can't you see that? Why are you so damn partisan?
Black men have difficulty accepting responsibility for anything.
This is Klean's sole criteria for judging Obama
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Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:28 am
by Chizzang
CitadelGrad wrote:SDHornet wrote:Wasn't Iraq about resources? W got fried (among other things) for the whole blood for oil thing. Why is Obama getting pass for keeping us in the Graveyard of Empires? How much of those resources are heading our way? This reeks of a double standard imo.
Americans know that oil is bad. Most Americans can't name even one rare earth element.
Really..
4 Nd + 3 O2 → 2 Nd2O3 = Neodymium / or when an alloy Nd2Fe14B
Nd Magnets are the strongest magnets known on this great Earth
a neodymium magnet can lift over a thousand times its own weight
The global automotive industry is clamoring (insanely) for Nd (Nd2Fe14B) and driven the street price up 8x in just the last 5 years
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Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:34 am
by houndawg
ASUG8 wrote:houndawg wrote:Afghanistan is a treasure house of strategically valuable rare earth elements, many of which the Chinese have a near monopoly on and some of which go for upwards of $100,000/ton. It doesn't matter who is in office we're in Afghanistan for the long haul when that kind of wealth is in play.

Kind of like all the Iraqi oil we were going to plunder.

You mean the oil that was going to pay for the cost of the war?

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:39 am
by ASUG8
houndawg wrote:ASUG8 wrote:
Kind of like all the Iraqi oil we were going to plunder.

You mean the oil that was going to pay for the cost of the war?

Yep...no different than the rare earths we're supposedly securing from the Afghans as you pointed out.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:55 pm
by CID1990
mrklean wrote:
No dyckhead this is Bush's War. Remember WMD's, oh thats the lie to get us in Iraq.

OK Klean- you need to come up to the chalkboard and write 100 times:
"I will not post non-sequiturs."
You DO know that Obama called Afghanistan the right war, right?
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:46 pm
by YoUDeeMan
CID1990 wrote:mrklean wrote:
No dyckhead this is Bush's War. Remember WMD's, oh thats the lie to get us in Iraq.

OK Klean- you need to come up to the chalkboard and write 100 times:
"I will not post non-sequiturs."
You DO know that Obama called Afghanistan the right war, right?

FACT.

Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:47 pm
by YoUDeeMan
CitadelGrad wrote:SDHornet wrote:Wasn't Iraq about resources? W got fried (among other things) for the whole blood for oil thing. Why is Obama getting pass for keeping us in the Graveyard of Empires? How much of those resources are heading our way? This reeks of a double standard imo.
Americans know that oil is bad. Most Americans can't name even one rare earth element.
Mithril.
Re: Endless Afghanistan
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:23 pm
by 93henfan