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Former vice president Dick Cheney and his wife Lynne said Monday that they are “pained" by the public dispute over gay marriage between their daughters but that Liz Cheney's "many kindnesses shouldn't be used to distort her position" on the issue.
"This is an issue we have dealt with privately for many years, and we are pained to see it become public,” the couple said in a joint statement after daughter Mary Cheney and her wife slammed GOP Senate candidate Liz Cheney for her opposition to same sex marriage. “Since it has, one thing should be clear. Liz has always believed in the traditional definition of marriage. She has also always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect, exactly as she should have done."

The statement comes after the simmering feud between Liz and Mary Cheney, who married longtime partner Heather Poe in 2012, reignited on social media Sunday.

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Who would've thought that Dick Cheyney would've been the compassionate, open-minded one in the family?

GannonFan wrote:Who would've thought that Dick Cheyney would've been the compassionate, open-minded one in the family?

I think Cheney has been on record for some time in support of gay rights.

His daughter on the other hand, appeared to also be supportive but then once she announced she went full social conservative and started checking the boxes. Her whole candidacy is a list of betrayals, starting with the incumbent. I hope she loses the primary for that reason alone if nothing else.

CID1990 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Who would've thought that Dick Cheyney would've been the compassionate, open-minded one in the family?

I think Cheney has been on record for some time in support of gay rights.

His daughter on the other hand, appeared to also be supportive but then once she announced she went full social conservative and started checking the boxes. Her whole candidacy is a list of betrayals, starting with the incumbent. I hope she loses the primary for that reason alone if nothing else.

Agreed.

CID1990 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Who would've thought that Dick Cheyney would've been the compassionate, open-minded one in the family?

I think Cheney has been on record for some time in support of gay rights.

His daughter on the other hand, appeared to also be supportive but then once she announced she went full social conservative and started checking the boxes. Her whole candidacy is a list of betrayals, starting with the incumbent. I hope she loses the primary for that reason alone if nothing else.

Yeah, his wife looks and sounds like a piece of work. Considering Dick Cheyney has been as pro-gay rights as long as he's had, it must make for great conversations in that household considering the wife's view. Again, just odd to see Dick Cheyney coming out as the nice one.

GannonFan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
I think Cheney has been on record for some time in support of gay rights.

His daughter on the other hand, appeared to also be supportive but then once she announced she went full social conservative and started checking the boxes. Her whole candidacy is a list of betrayals, starting with the incumbent. I hope she loses the primary for that reason alone if nothing else.

Yeah, his wife looks and sounds like a piece of work. Considering Dick Cheyney has been as pro-gay rights as long as he's had, it must make for great conversations in that household considering the wife's view. Again, just odd to see Dick Cheyney coming out as the nice one.

Agreed.

Talk about pandering. Not only is she pandering to the GOP crack job base, she's going against her loved ones. I hope she fails.

Ibanez wrote:Talk about pandering. Not only is she pandering to the GOP crack job base, she's going against her loved ones. I hope she fails.

It's not pandering if she really believes it. It sounds like, from the daughter's comments, that she's been consistently anti-gay, pro-traditional marriage, for quite some time. It would be pandering if she was the supportive one like Dick Cheyney apparently has been and then changed just for an election.

The heart transplant was a success!

Look at yourselves, guys. Could you REALLY despise your brother or sister for being gay? To me, that's what bothers me about people like Liz Cheney. Another compelling case for tolerance.

GannonFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:Talk about pandering. Not only is she pandering to the GOP crack job base, she's going against her loved ones. I hope she fails.

It's not pandering if she really believes it. It sounds like, from the daughter's comments, that she's been consistently anti-gay, pro-traditional marriage, for quite some time. It would be pandering if she was the supportive one like Dick Cheyney apparently has been and then changed just for an election.

So when she was excited for her sisters marriage, and expressed that excitement she was just lying? That's a politician in the making, saying anything.

kalm wrote:The heart transplant was a success!

Nah, that's the thing about politics today - people on one side think they need to absolutely hate and loathe the other side. I never got that with Dick Cheyney - sure, you could viscerally disagree with the decisions and policies he championed, especially in the foreign policy department, but that didn't mean the guy was an awful human being. It just meant you disagreed with his views on foreign policy. Sadly, we tend to transfer the disagreements on policy debates into personal characterizations.

Ibanez wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
It's not pandering if she really believes it. It sounds like, from the daughter's comments, that she's been consistently anti-gay, pro-traditional marriage, for quite some time. It would be pandering if she was the supportive one like Dick Cheyney apparently has been and then changed just for an election.

So when she was excited for her sisters marriage, and expressed that excitement she was just lying? That's a politician in the making, saying anything.

You answered yourself there, obviously she was just lying then based on the public comments by the gay daughter.

CID1990 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Who would've thought that Dick Cheyney would've been the compassionate, open-minded one in the family?

I think Cheney has been on record for some time in support of gay rights.

His daughter on the other hand, appeared to also be supportive but then once she announced she went full social conservative and started checking the boxes. Her whole candidacy is a list of betrayals, starting with the incumbent. I hope she loses the primary for that reason alone if nothing else.

Well, you know you gotta appease the base if you want to get elected. It's Exhibit A for what's wrong with this country.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Look at yourselves, guys. Could you REALLY despise your brother or sister for being gay? To me, that's what bothers me about people like Liz Cheney.

Exactly.

GannonFan wrote:

kalm wrote:The heart transplant was a success!

Nah, that's the thing about politics today - people on one side think they need to absolutely hate and loathe the other side. I never got that with Dick Cheyney - sure, you could viscerally disagree with the decisions and policies he championed, especially in the foreign policy department, but that didn't mean the guy was an awful human being. It just meant you disagreed with his views on foreign policy. Sadly, we tend to transfer the disagreements on policy debates into personal characterizations.

Oh relax Headmaster Ganny. It was just a joke.

Besides, you hate and loathe the left more than anyone on this board.

kalm wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Nah, that's the thing about politics today - people on one side think they need to absolutely hate and loathe the other side. I never got that with Dick Cheyney - sure, you could viscerally disagree with the decisions and policies he championed, especially in the foreign policy department, but that didn't mean the guy was an awful human being. It just meant you disagreed with his views on foreign policy. Sadly, we tend to transfer the disagreements on policy debates into personal characterizations.

Oh relax Headmaster Ganny. It was just a joke.

Besides, you hate and loathe the left more than anyone on this board.

Nonsense. I don't hate and loathe anything other than nova and the dallas cowboys. I'm like the Hard Rock Cafe poster on this site - "love all, serve all".

GannonFan wrote:

kalm wrote:The heart transplant was a success!

Nah, that's the thing about politics today - people on one side think they need to absolutely hate and loathe the other side. I never got that with Dick Cheyney - sure, you could viscerally disagree with the decisions and policies he championed, especially in the foreign policy department, but that didn't mean the guy was an awful human being. It just meant you disagreed with his views on foreign policy. Sadly, we tend to transfer the disagreements on policy debates into personal characterizations.

True, I know I changed my opinion when he shot that lawyer in the head.

houndawg wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Nah, that's the thing about politics today - people on one side think they need to absolutely hate and loathe the other side. I never got that with Dick Cheyney - sure, you could viscerally disagree with the decisions and policies he championed, especially in the foreign policy department, but that didn't mean the guy was an awful human being. It just meant you disagreed with his views on foreign policy. Sadly, we tend to transfer the disagreements on policy debates into personal characterizations.

True, I know I changed my opinion when he shot that lawyer in the head.

AZGrizFan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
I think Cheney has been on record for some time in support of gay rights.

His daughter on the other hand, appeared to also be supportive but then once she announced she went full social conservative and started checking the boxes. Her whole candidacy is a list of betrayals, starting with the incumbent. I hope she loses the primary for that reason alone if nothing else.

Well, you know you gotta appease the base if you want to get elected. It's Exhibit A for what's wrong with this country.

houndawg wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Nah, that's the thing about politics today - people on one side think they need to absolutely hate and loathe the other side. I never got that with Dick Cheyney - sure, you could viscerally disagree with the decisions and policies he championed, especially in the foreign policy department, but that didn't mean the guy was an awful human being. It just meant you disagreed with his views on foreign policy. Sadly, we tend to transfer the disagreements on policy debates into personal characterizations.

True, I know I changed my opinion when he shot that lawyer in the head.

See, if dawg can change, then everyone can change and embrace their fellow man.

GannonFan wrote:It's not pandering if she really believes it. It sounds like, from the daughter's comments, that she's been consistently anti-gay, pro-traditional marriage, for quite some time. It would be pandering if she was the supportive one like Dick Cheyney apparently has been and then changed just for an election.

It is my understanding that she was supportive of her sister and the marriage up until now. That's why it caused the row as they were blindsided by her public comments.

If she has been anti gay marriage all along, then that means she has an integrity issue and therefore is unfit for office (of course that makes most pols unfit for office).

CID1990 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:It's not pandering if she really believes it. It sounds like, from the daughter's comments, that she's been consistently anti-gay, pro-traditional marriage, for quite some time. It would be pandering if she was the supportive one like Dick Cheyney apparently has been and then changed just for an election.

It is my understanding that she was supportive of her sister and the marriage up until now. That's why it caused the row as they were blindsided by her public comments.

If she has been anti gay marriage all along, then that means she has an integrity issue and therefore is unfit for office (of course that makes most pols unfit for office).

What are you talking about? That makes her PERFECT for public office...

GannonFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
So when she was excited for her sisters marriage, and expressed that excitement she was just lying? That's a politician in the making, saying anything.

You answered yourself there, obviously she was just lying then based on the public comments by the gay daughter.

Sounds like she's pleasing the base. She's lying about how she feels and nothing cements that more than publicly fueding with your lesbian sister.