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White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:02 am
by CAA Flagship
Dave Wilson is white. But to win a seat on the Houston Community College Board of Trustees in a district predominantly comprised of African-American voters, Wilson, a conservative Republican, led voters to believe he was black.
According to CBS affiliate KHOU-TV, Wilson's direct mail campaign included a flier with smiling black faces he says he found on the Internet. "Please vote for our friend and neighbor Dave Wilson," the accompanying text read.
In another flier, the text said he had been endorsed by Ron Wilson, a popular black former state representative. But the Ron Wilson who endorsed him was Dave's cousin Ron, not the ex-lawmaker.
"He's a nice cousin," Wilson told the network, chuckling. "We played baseball in high school together."
Nevermind his cousin lives in Bloomfield, Iowa, some 940 miles from Houston.
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Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:29 am
by mrklean

SUCKER

Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:35 am
by Pwns
I've said this before...identity politics is much stronger in America than racism or sexism. If Hillary runs the people who will vote for her because she is a woman will outnumber those who would never vote for a woman 20:1.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:47 am
by mrklean
Pwns wrote:I've said this before...identity politics is much stronger in America than racism or sexism. If Hillary runs the people who will vote for her because she is a woman will outnumber those who would never vote for a woman 20:1.
So why do we here, Black people only vote for Obama because he is Black?
Remember Obama is a Dem

Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:47 am
by Chizzang
Pwns wrote:I've said this before...identity politics is much stronger in America than racism or sexism. If Hillary runs the people who will vote for her because she is a woman will outnumber those who would never vote for a woman 20:1.

20:1

Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:02 am
by Cap'n Cat
Hillary is the Mother of God.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:11 am
by BlueHen86
We get the elected officials that we deserve. If you're a single issue voter, and your single issue is race, you should at least take the time to verify the race of the guy you intend to vote for.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:11 am
by BlueHen86
Cap'n Cat wrote:Hillary is the Mother of God.
Chelsea?
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:16 am
by DSUrocks07
So Bruce Austin never found a way to put out there that Wilson was a white guy?
This says a lot more about how little the average American pays attention to the political process.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:23 am
by BlueHen86
DSUrocks07 wrote:So Bruce Austin never found a way to put out there that Wilson was a white guy?
This says a lot more about how little the average American pays attention to the political process.
Actually, it says more about Bruce Austin.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:51 am
by 89Hen
mrklean wrote:Pwns wrote:I've said this before...identity politics is much stronger in America than racism or sexism. If Hillary runs the people who will vote for her because she is a woman will outnumber those who would never vote for a woman 20:1.
So why do we here, Black people only vote for Obama because he is Black?
Remember Obama is a Dem

Blacks are about 12% of the US population so it's not too far off (5%). Obama did much better in the Dem primaries with men than he did with women. I think the 20:1 ratio is a little high, but I do think not only are there more people who would vote for a woman than wouldn't, I acutally think there are even more people who would vote for a woman out of guilt of not wanting to vote against a woman.
BTW, I assume you are not questioning that a HUGE number of blacks only voted for Obama because he was black. If you can show me data that blacks voted for another Dem candidate in a Dem primary in the kind of skewed numbers they voted for Obama, I will admit I'm wrong.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:16 pm
by mrklean
89Hen wrote:mrklean wrote:
So why do we here, Black people only vote for Obama because he is Black?
Remember Obama is a Dem

Blacks are about 12% of the US population so it's not too far off (5%). Obama did much better in the Dem primaries with men than he did with women. I think the 20:1 ratio is a little high, but I do think not only are there more people who would vote for a woman than wouldn't, I acutally think there are even more people who would vote for a woman out of guilt of not wanting to vote against a woman.
BTW, I assume you are not questioning that a HUGE number of blacks only voted for Obama because he was black. If you can show me data that blacks voted for another Dem candidate in a Dem primary in the kind of skewed numbers they voted for Obama, I will admit I'm wrong.
Only a 1/3 of AA who can vote do vote. That number has not changed in over 30 years. Trust me, we try to raise these numbers every 4 years, with little luck.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:09 pm
by CAA Flagship
mrklean wrote:89Hen wrote:
Blacks are about 12% of the US population so it's not too far off (5%). Obama did much better in the Dem primaries with men than he did with women. I think the 20:1 ratio is a little high, but I do think not only are there more people who would vote for a woman than wouldn't, I acutally think there are even more people who would vote for a woman out of guilt of not wanting to vote against a woman.
BTW, I assume you are not questioning that a HUGE number of blacks only voted for Obama because he was black. If you can show me data that blacks voted for another Dem candidate in a Dem primary in the kind of skewed numbers they voted for Obama, I will admit I'm wrong.
Only a 1/3 of AA who can vote do vote. That number has not changed in over 30 years. Trust me, we try to raise these numbers every 4 years, with little luck.
Wait. Are you saying that Obama has not drawn a higher percentage of black voters to the polls? I find that hard to believe.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:46 pm
by BlueHen86
CAA Flagship wrote:mrklean wrote:
Only a 1/3 of AA who can vote do vote. That number has not changed in over 30 years. Trust me, we try to raise these numbers every 4 years, with little luck.
Wait. Are you saying that Obama has not drawn a higher percentage of black voters to the polls? I find that hard to believe.
Me too. I just heard somewhere in the last few days that the AA vote % had been going up since Obama ran.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:30 pm
by dbackjon
BlueHen86 wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:So Bruce Austin never found a way to put out there that Wilson was a white guy?
This says a lot more about how little the average American pays attention to the political process.
Actually, it says more about Bruce Austin.
And the voters in that district
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:50 pm
by kalm
I'd vote for Alphagriz and 89hen out of white guilt.

Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:47 pm
by AZGrizFan
mrklean wrote:89Hen wrote:
Blacks are about 12% of the US population so it's not too far off (5%). Obama did much better in the Dem primaries with men than he did with women. I think the 20:1 ratio is a little high, but I do think not only are there more people who would vote for a woman than wouldn't, I acutally think there are even more people who would vote for a woman out of guilt of not wanting to vote against a woman.
BTW, I assume you are not questioning that a HUGE number of blacks only voted for Obama because he was black. If you can show me data that blacks voted for another Dem candidate in a Dem primary in the kind of skewed numbers they voted for Obama, I will admit I'm wrong.
Only a 1/3 of AA who can vote do vote. That number has not changed in over 30 years. Trust me, we try to raise these numbers every 4 years, with little luck.
5 million MORE AA's voted in 2008 than had EVER voted before. Why do you suppose that was? And whom do you suppose they voted for? And why do you suppose THAT was?
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:48 pm
by CitadelGrad
DSUrocks07 wrote:So Bruce Austin never found a way to put out there that Wilson was a white guy?
This says a lot more about how little the average American pays attention to the political process.
You know, it's possible that Austin didn't know that his opponent was white. He might have just figured that as a Dem in a negro area, he had an automatic win against any Republican.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:03 pm
by JohnStOnge
So why do we here, Black people only vote for Obama because he is Black?
Remember Obama is a Dem
Agreed. It was the "Democrat" thing more than the "Black" thing. Blacks have voted by reflex around 90% plus or minus a few percentage points for the Democratic candidate for President for a very long time now. If the Republicans were to nominate a Black he or she would not get anything close to that among the Black population.
Obama being on the ballot did increase Black turnout some and did make it a little higher percentage. But if he'd have had a "R" by his name the majority of Blacks would have voted against him.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:10 pm
by Skjellyfetti
JohnStOnge wrote: But if he'd have had a "R" by his name the majority of Blacks would have voted against him.
Not all things equal... If he switches to the Republican Party and campaigned on their platform... blacks would not vote for him overwhelmingly. If he simply switched parties, but campaigned on the same issues and positions... they probably would vote overwhelmingly for him.
Blacks didn't turn out overwhelmingly for Alan Keyes any time he ran for office. And, it's not simply because he had an R next to his name.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:19 am
by mrklean
JohnStOnge wrote:So why do we here, Black people only vote for Obama because he is Black?
Remember Obama is a Dem
Agreed. It was the "Democrat" thing more than the "Black" thing. Blacks have voted by reflex around 90% plus or minus a few percentage points for the Democratic candidate for President for a very long time now. If the Republicans were to nominate a Black he or she would not get anything close to that among the Black population.
Obama being on the ballot did increase Black turnout some and did make it a little higher percentage. But if he'd have had a "R" by his name the majority of Blacks would have voted against him.
So you are saying its more party and not race?
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:30 am
by AZGrizFan
mrklean wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Agreed. It was the "Democrat" thing more than the "Black" thing. Blacks have voted by reflex around 90% plus or minus a few percentage points for the Democratic candidate for President for a very long time now. If the Republicans were to nominate a Black he or she would not get anything close to that among the Black population.
Obama being on the ballot did increase Black turnout some and did make it a little higher percentage. But if he'd have had a "R" by his name the majority of Blacks would have voted against him.
So you are saying its more party and not race?
88% of it's a party thing. The other 12% is racists voting for the guy because of his skin color. The 5,000,000 NEW AA voters were there because of his skin color.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:48 am
by mrklean
AZGrizFan wrote:mrklean wrote:
So you are saying its more party and not race?
88% of it's a party thing. The other 12% is racists voting for the guy because of his skin color. The 5,000,000 NEW AA voters were there because of his skin color.
I still dont see why this is a problem. the 5 million new voters would have voted Dem anyway. I can see if they Voted for Allen Keyes (R) who is a Conk. Then that would voting for race.
Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:48 am
by Cap'n Cat
AZGrizFan wrote:mrklean wrote:
So you are saying its more party and not race?
88% of it's a party thing. The other 12% is racists voting for the guy because of his skin color. The 5,000,000 NEW AA voters were there because of his skin color.
Remember when you referred to the Middle Easterners as
ragheads a week or so ago, Li'l Cruz? THAT's why AA's run from your Party, you elitist Conk. Now, get ready for your martini lunch with the Central Texas Kingdom of Klans......

Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:37 am
by 89Hen