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No upset there, but it was interesting based on the thread last week that you didn't think he could get the GOP nomination. I was surprised, but it looks like he has a solid control of the NJ Republican base (and Tea Party) as well as a lot of Dem support. How results in NJ might scale up to national results is arguable, but I'm not aware of any potential Republican that can get the votes from the right as well as control the moderate/independent vote.

Christie solidified his base winning near unanimous support from Republicans (93 percent) conservatives (86 percent), and tea party supporters (88 percent) but more importantly, he made inroads with some traditionally Democratic groups. Fifty-seven percent of women cast their vote for Christie, a group he lost to Democrat Jon Corzine four years ago. And while Democrat Buono won the support of African-Americans by a large margin, Christie managed to capture one in five black voters - doubling the level of support he received four years ago (9 percent).

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Maybe Christie will be down to fighting weight in the next year. We'll see.

Interesting stuff, but just as a reminder, Michelle Bachman once won a straw poll in Iowa.

kalm wrote:Interesting stuff, but just as a reminder, Michelle Bachman once won a straw poll in Iowa.

Iowa was drunk that day.

Christie probably could win a general election but he won't be able to get through the R primary.

kalm wrote:Interesting stuff, but just as a reminder, Michelle Bachman once won a straw poll in Iowa.

Barack Obama won the Iowa Caucus too. Both are proof that Iowa should not be allowed to start the nominating process.

ASUG8 wrote:

And while Democrat Buono won the support of African-Americans by a large margin, Christie managed to capture one in five black voters - doubling the level of support he received four years ago (9 percent).

Idiots.

Cluck U wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:

Idiots.

Congrats to (NJ)Gov. Chrisie

HI54UNI wrote:Christie probably could win a general election but he won't be able to get through the R primary.

Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

Ivytalk wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:Christie probably could win a general election but he won't be able to get through the R primary.

Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

Lyndon LaRouche would have a difficult slog through the primaries in today's Republican Party of Irrelevance.

houndawg wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

Lyndon LaRouche would have a difficult slog through the primaries in today's Republican Party of Irrelevance.

Ol' Lyndon sought the Donk nomination at least half a dozen times. And I'll bet he carried Edwardsville.

Ivytalk wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:Christie probably could win a general election but he won't be able to get through the R primary.

Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

I'd expect a few of these as well

Ivytalk wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Lyndon LaRouche would have a difficult slog through the primaries in today's Republican Party of Irrelevance.

Ol' Lyndon sought the Donk nomination at least half a dozen times. And I'll bet he carried Edwardsville.

Probably did carry Edwardsville, all kinds of nasty stuff in their water.

Ivytalk wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:Christie probably could win a general election but he won't be able to get through the R primary.

Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

If I thought he was any different than the past 25 years of presidents I might vote for him. The jury is still somewhat out on that issue, however.

Christie said in an interview this week he had just passed the halfway mark toward his weight loss goal.

The GOP needs to get its act together before 2016. McCain & Romney were weak candidates. The Tea Party needs to wisen up - they can get a Congressman elected, they have less chances in the Senate & they have zero shot of getting a "pro-Tea Party" candidate elected to the Oval Office. They have to realize what would be more in their best interest, Christie or Hillary....

Should be an easy choice right?

If Christie doesn't get the nomination I'm no longer a registered Republican.

Ivytalk wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:Christie probably could win a general election but he won't be able to get through the R primary.

Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

I expect Christie to turn that attack into an attack of his own. He is very sharp. My guess is he will say something like, "I was doing what I had to in order to get as much support for my reeling constituents as I could. That is what is required as Governor. What have you two done?"
Christie will come out smelling like a rose in this. Also using the "Willing to work across the aisle" bullshit that many dopey Americans will fall for.
Christie is the ONLY person capable of winning the Presidential Election for the Conks. If he loses, the Conks may never win again, and we all know what that means.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

I expect Christie to turn that attack into an attack of his own. He is very sharp. My guess is he will say something like, "I was doing what I had to in order to get as much support for my reeling constituents as I could. That is what is required as Governor. What have you two done?"
Christie will come out smelling like a rose in this. Also using the "Willing to work across the aisle" bullshit that many dopey Americans will fall for.
Christie is the ONLY person capable of winning the Presidential Election for the Conks. If he loses, the Conks may never win again, and we all know what that means.

Yep-a brighter future for ALL Americans.

Grizalltheway wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: I expect Christie to turn that attack into an attack of his own. He is very sharp. My guess is he will say something like, "I was doing what I had to in order to get as much support for my reeling constituents as I could. That is what is required as Governor. What have you two done?"
Christie will come out smelling like a rose in this. Also using the "Willing to work across the aisle" bullshit that many dopey Americans will fall for.
Christie is the ONLY person capable of winning the Presidential Election for the Conks. If he loses, the Conks may never win again, and we all know what that means.

Yep-a brighter future for ALL Americans.

Responses like this are why grizza thinks he knows how you vote.

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ASUG8 wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Yep-a brighter future for ALL Americans.

Responses like this are why grizza thinks he knows how you vote.

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I certainly lean left (inb4 ) on a lot of issues, but by no means am I a strictly party-line voter like he suggested.

Grizalltheway wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
Responses like this are why grizza thinks he knows how you vote.

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I certainly lean left (inb4 ) on a lot of issues, but by no means am I a strictly party-line voter like he suggested.

About this far left?

CAA Flagship wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Think of Christie as a "girthy" Wendell Willkie or a middle-class Nelson Rockefeller. I'd vote for him in a nanosecond, but he will have a difficult slog through the primaries. That photo itself will be on every Rand Paul or Marco Rubio negative ad.

I expect Christie to turn that attack into an attack of his own. He is very sharp. My guess is he will say something like, "I was doing what I had to in order to get as much support for my reeling constituents as I could. That is what is required as Governor. What have you two done?"
Christie will come out smelling like a rose in this. Also using the "Willing to work across the aisle" bullshit that many dopey Americans will fall for.
Christie is the ONLY person capable of winning the Presidential Election for the Conks. If he loses, the Conks may never win again, and we all know what that means.

There are a whole bunch of Democrats who would vote for Christie
Which is precisely why he will struggle in the Primary circus



There are a half dozen Democrats (or at least Liberals of some sort) on this site
who would vote Christie - and - That should be a real warning sign for the Hard Right nut-balls

Stay tuned

As soon as the Tea Party figures out that the LEFT doesn't Hate Christie
They'll go insane

Chizzang wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: I expect Christie to turn that attack into an attack of his own. He is very sharp. My guess is he will say something like, "I was doing what I had to in order to get as much support for my reeling constituents as I could. That is what is required as Governor. What have you two done?"
Christie will come out smelling like a rose in this. Also using the "Willing to work across the aisle" bullshit that many dopey Americans will fall for.
Christie is the ONLY person capable of winning the Presidential Election for the Conks. If he loses, the Conks may never win again, and we all know what that means.

There are a whole bunch of Democrats who would vote for Christie
Which is precisely why he will struggle in the Primary circus



There are a half dozen Democrats (or at least Liberals of some sort) on this site
who would vote Christie - and - That should be a real warning sign for the Hard Right nut-balls

Stay tuned

There are a handful of hard leftists/righties on here (either real or imagined) with the rest of us falling somewhere in the middle. I'd argue that the last few years of divisiveness are getting a bit long in the tooth and Americans with something resembling a brain stem are tired of watching government tread water more than usual without any forward progress. That being said, there are still a large number of eligible voters that can be enticed by rhetoric and promises that can't possibly be delivered - I like what I know of Christie so far because he seems like the type that's going to give it to you pretty straight, unlike a lot of other candidates. He's certainly not perfect and will likely step on his own sack quite a lot over the next couple of years, but I can't see Paul, Jindal, Rubio, or whoever else being able to corral the middle and the right.

ASUG8 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

There are a whole bunch of Democrats who would vote for Christie
Which is precisely why he will struggle in the Primary circus



There are a half dozen Democrats (or at least Liberals of some sort) on this site
who would vote Christie - and - That should be a real warning sign for the Hard Right nut-balls

Stay tuned

There are a handful of hard leftists/righties on here (either real or imagined) with the rest of us falling somewhere in the middle. I'd argue that the last few years of divisiveness are getting a bit long in the tooth and Americans with something resembling a brain stem are tired of watching government tread water more than usual without any forward progress. That being said, there are still a large number of eligible voters that can be enticed by rhetoric and promises that can't possibly be delivered - I like what I know of Christie so far because he seems like the type that's going to give it to you pretty straight, unlike a lot of other candidates. He's certainly not perfect and will likely step on his own sack quite a lot over the next couple of years, but I can't see Paul, Jindal, Rubio, or whoever else being able to corral the middle and the right.

agreed... ^ with all that
Right up until the rubber hits the road

Is Obama Care going to pay for my Lap Band surgery too Mr. Christie..?
Or is your Federal Healthcare package better than everybody else's..?

Wait you're NOT going to repeal the affordable Care act (asks the Tea Party..?)

The CAN OF WORMS is large and relatively unmanageable

Chizzang wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
There are a handful of hard leftists/righties on here (either real or imagined) with the rest of us falling somewhere in the middle. I'd argue that the last few years of divisiveness are getting a bit long in the tooth and Americans with something resembling a brain stem are tired of watching government tread water more than usual without any forward progress. That being said, there are still a large number of eligible voters that can be enticed by rhetoric and promises that can't possibly be delivered - I like what I know of Christie so far because he seems like the type that's going to give it to you pretty straight, unlike a lot of other candidates. He's certainly not perfect and will likely step on his own sack quite a lot over the next couple of years, but I can't see Paul, Jindal, Rubio, or whoever else being able to corral the middle and the right.

agreed... ^ with all that
Right up until the rubber hits the road

Is Obama Care going to pay for my Lap Band surgery too Mr. Christie..?
Or is your Federal Healthcare package better than everybody else's..?

Wait you're NOT going to repeal the affordable Care act (asks the Tea Party..?)

The CAN OF WORMS is large and relatively unmanageable

Obamacare is RELATIVELY unmanageable? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant? It's an unmitigated disaster.

Chizzang wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
There are a handful of hard leftists/righties on here (either real or imagined) with the rest of us falling somewhere in the middle. I'd argue that the last few years of divisiveness are getting a bit long in the tooth and Americans with something resembling a brain stem are tired of watching government tread water more than usual without any forward progress. That being said, there are still a large number of eligible voters that can be enticed by rhetoric and promises that can't possibly be delivered - I like what I know of Christie so far because he seems like the type that's going to give it to you pretty straight, unlike a lot of other candidates. He's certainly not perfect and will likely step on his own sack quite a lot over the next couple of years, but I can't see Paul, Jindal, Rubio, or whoever else being able to corral the middle and the right.

agreed... ^ with all that
Right up until the rubber hits the road

Is Obama Care going to pay for my Lap Band surgery too Mr. Christie..?
Or is your Federal Healthcare package better than everybody else's..?

Wait you're NOT going to repeal the affordable Care act (asks the Tea Party..?)

The CAN OF WORMS is large and relatively unmanageable

Well, we have over 2 years of this train wreck to go...there's lots of opportunity for the democrats to dig an even deeper hole than they already have...

Ivytalk wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

agreed... ^ with all that
Right up until the rubber hits the road

Is Obama Care going to pay for my Lap Band surgery too Mr. Christie..?
Or is your Federal Healthcare package better than everybody else's..?

Wait you're NOT going to repeal the affordable Care act (asks the Tea Party..?)

The CAN OF WORMS is large and relatively unmanageable

Obamacare is RELATIVELY unmanageable? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant? It's an unmitigated disaster.