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dbackjon wrote:Starve and DIE.

I'm pretty even keeled but this is just stupid. What's that saying about teaching a man to fish?

Ibanez wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Starve and DIE.

I'm pretty even keeled but this is just stupid. What's that saying about teaching a man to fish?

But without government, how will I know when to eat?

DSUrocks07 wrote:

Ibanez wrote:


I'm pretty even keeled but this is just stupid. What's that saying about teaching a man to fish?

But without government, how will I know when to eat?

This is a good time for you to learn self-reliance. Let's help those that can't help themselves. But that doesn't mean take care of them their entire lives. Teach them a trade and help them make their own way. People grow up seeing welfare and food stamps as a normal way of life so it's no problem for them to be that way.

Ibanez wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:
But without government, how will I know when to eat?

This is a good time for you to learn self-reliance. Let's help those that can't help themselves. But that doesn't mean take care of them their entire lives. Teach them a trade and help them make their own way. People grow up seeing welfare and food stamps as a normal way of life so it's no problem for them to be that way.

There's all kinds of "welfare" going on...
Lets not pretend that our military isn't a giant welfare dumping ground

but that aside: BEWARE this is a TROLL Thread

Chizzang wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
This is a good time for you to learn self-reliance. Let's help those that can't help themselves. But that doesn't mean take care of them their entire lives. Teach them a trade and help them make their own way. People grow up seeing welfare and food stamps as a normal way of life so it's no problem for them to be that way.

There's all kinds of "welfare" going on...
Lets not pretend that our military isn't a giant welfare dumping ground

but that aside: BEWARE this is a TROLL Thread

Oh I know. But he isn't talking about corporate and industrial poor.


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You can't be free while expecting other people to take care of you. There is an exchange. If you say you are free you are responsible for yourself and you risk failure. When people take care of you they have "leverage" with respect to your life and your choices.

When you say you want government to take care of you, you are selling your soul.

BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

That would be wonderful if there were as many jobs as there are people who want jobs.

dbackjon wrote:Starve and DIE.

Or at least don't vote..

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

*unless you're in the auto or banking industry. We've got your backs, guys.

Grizalltheway wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

*unless you're in the auto or banking industry. We've got your backs, guys.

Look everybody to some degree is looking for the government to help them
The idea that it's only The Unwashed Lazy Poor is ridiculous

We have proven in this country (over and over)
That Corporations get just as much "welfare" as anybody - as noted above

Automotive / Banking / Farming / Big Oil / Telecommunications

To some degree or another they're all on the take
over 50% of Federal Subsidies go to 5 groups

1) Financial Industries
2) Utilities Gas & Electric
3) Telecom
4) Oil Gas & Pipeline
5) The Poor

in that order....

Chizzang wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
*unless you're in the auto or banking industry. We've got your backs, guys.

Look everybody to some degree is looking for the government to help them
The idea that it's only The Unwashed Lazy Poor is ridiculous

We have proven in this country (over and over)
That Corporations get just as much "welfare" as anybody - as noted above

Automotive / Banking / Farming / Big Oil / Telecommunications

To some degree or another they're all on the take
over 50% of Federal Subsidies go to 5 groups

1) Financial Industries
2) Utilities Gas & Electric
3) Telecom
4) Oil Gas & Pipeline
5) The Poor

in that order....

But the top four are capitalists...

Chizzang wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
*unless you're in the auto or banking industry. We've got your backs, guys.

Look everybody to some degree is looking for the government to help them
The idea that it's only The Unwashed Lazy Poor is ridiculous

We have proven in this country (over and over)
That Corporations get just as much "welfare" as anybody - as noted above

Automotive / Banking / Farming / Big Oil / Telecommunications

To some degree or another they're all on the take
over 50% of Federal Subsidies go to 5 groups

1) Financial Industries
2) Utilities Gas & Electric
3) Telecom
4) Oil Gas & Pipeline
5) The Poor

in that order....

And considering what % of our budget each year is considered "discretionary", all 5 of those pale in comparison to the subsidies given out in the form of entitlement programs.

houndawg wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

That would be wonderful if there were as many jobs as there are people who want jobs.

We're almost there. Besides many people now choosing not to want a job, we have plenty who only want a job that they aren't qualified for.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Look everybody to some degree is looking for the government to help them
The idea that it's only The Unwashed Lazy Poor is ridiculous

We have proven in this country (over and over)
That Corporations get just as much "welfare" as anybody - as noted above

Automotive / Banking / Farming / Big Oil / Telecommunications

To some degree or another they're all on the take
over 50% of Federal Subsidies go to 5 groups

1) Financial Industries
2) Utilities Gas & Electric
3) Telecom
4) Oil Gas & Pipeline
5) The Poor

in that order....

And considering what % of our budget each year is considered "discretionary", all 5 of those pale in comparison to the subsidies given out in the form of entitlement programs.

Only if you consider 50% of the Active Military as on Entitlement

Chizzang wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
And considering what % of our budget each year is considered "discretionary", all 5 of those pale in comparison to the subsidies given out in the form of entitlement programs.

Only if you consider 50% of the Active Military as on Entitlement

2011: 2.0T of Mandatory spending, $1.3T of discretionary spending, of which more than half was defense spending. Still not winning, Chizz.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Only if you consider 50% of the Active Military as on Entitlement

2011: 2.0T of Mandatory spending, $1.3T of discretionary spending, of which more than half was defense spending. Still not winning, Chizz.

Winning..?
What is this like a game of checkers or something

so the Feds have $840 Bn booked for 2014 defense spending
Not including a large percentage of the defense contractors that don't (somehow) get rolled into that figure
The actual number is in the Trillions

and $393 Bn on the books for 2014 Welfare & crap

Of course none of this includes the $928 Bn booked for Pensions (sweet Jeezus)

We are truly fucked

In nature, the slowest of the herd is caught and eaten and the weakest branch falls off the tree with the wind.

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

This Message should be told to more that the Poor.

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azz Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

mrklean wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

This Message should be told to more that the Poor.

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azzES AND Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

fify

Get with the times old man!

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CAA Flagship wrote:In nature, the slowest of the herd is caught and eaten and the weakest branch falls off the tree with the wind.

And drinking beer makes you smarter.

kalm wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote:In nature, the slowest of the herd is caught and eaten and the weakest branch falls off the tree with the wind.

And drinking beer makes you smarter.

But of course.

Chizzang wrote: Winning..?
What is this like a game of checkers or something


We are truly fucked

With you it's more of a corn maze.

And yes, we ARE truly fucked.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Only if you consider 50% of the Active Military as on Entitlement

2011: 2.0T of Mandatory spending, $1.3T of discretionary spending, of which more than half was defense spending. Still not winning, Chizz.

Greasy = another military welfare case.