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The Party of so-called family values and hate is being Destroyed by the same hate,via the Tea Party. Ole Abe is turning over in his grave.

mrklean wrote:The Party of so-called family values and hate is being Destroyed by the same hate,via the Tea Party. Ole Abe is turning over in his grave.

So-called family values and hate? An odd way to bill yourself.

Gloat all you want...we've moved that much closer to the precipice (although I don't expect you to understand even remotely what that means).

89Hen wrote:

mrklean wrote:The Party of so-called family values and hate is being Destroyed by the same hate,via the Tea Party. Ole Abe is turning over in his grave.

So-called family values and hate? An odd way to bill yourself.

Thats what Ive been saying. On the one hand they talk about God and Family values. But on the other hand, they hate the Dems, Social Programs and Big Government.

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89Hen wrote: So-called family values and hate? An odd way to bill yourself.

Thats what Ive been saying. On the one hand they talk about God and Family values. But on the other hand, they hate the Dems, Social Programs and Big Government.

Odd, the peace loving, pacifistic party sure habors a lot of hate for anyone who doesn't see things their way either. Imagine that.

89Hen wrote:

mrklean wrote:
Thats what Ive been saying. On the one hand they talk about God and Family values. But on the other hand, they hate the Dems, Social Programs and Big Government.

Odd, the peace loving, pacifistic party sure habors a lot of hate for anyone who doesn't see things their way either. Imagine that.

They learned from the GOP

89Hen wrote:

mrklean wrote:
Thats what Ive been saying. On the one hand they talk about God and Family values. But on the other hand, they hate the Dems, Social Programs and Big Government.

Odd, the peace loving, pacifistic party sure habors a lot of hate for anyone who doesn't see things their way either. Imagine that.

The GOP is just as hypocritical.

I'll admit, TP candidates campaigned on certain issues and they are doing everything they can to fulfill campaign promises. Their strategy and execution is less than desirable.


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mrklean wrote:

89Hen wrote: Odd, the peace loving, pacifistic party sure habors a lot of hate for anyone who doesn't see things their way either. Imagine that.

They learned from the GOP

You'd think they would have picked better things out of the GOP to mimick.

Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: Odd, the peace loving, pacifistic party sure habors a lot of hate for anyone who doesn't see things their way either. Imagine that.

The GOP is just as hypocritical.

And?

Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: Odd, the peace loving, pacifistic party sure habors a lot of hate for anyone who doesn't see things their way either. Imagine that.

The GOP is just as hypocritical.

I'll admit, TP candidates campaigned on certain issues and they are doing everything they can to fulfill campaign promises.

And for that they're branded as terrorists. WAFJ this country has become.

For the umpteentth time, repukes will not be in the oval office until they change their social platform.
Unless the dumbcruts really screw up.

89Hen wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
The GOP is just as hypocritical.

And?

And the party of no ideas since clearly they have not been able to offer any alternative to Obamacare in the 3+ years it's been around?


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Gil Dobie wrote:For the umpteentth time, repukes will not be in the oval office until they change their social platform.
Unless the dumbcruts really screw up.

They will. I have faith in that

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
The GOP is just as hypocritical.

I'll admit, TP candidates campaigned on certain issues and they are doing everything they can to fulfill campaign promises.

And for that they're branded as terrorists. WAFJ this country has become.

No, it's the execution and strategy that makes people think they are terrorists. Trying to fulfill campaign promises is noble, but be smart about it.

I don't like the TP. They are extremists but I can give credit when it's due.


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Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: And?

And the party of no ideas since clearly they have not been able to offer any alternative to Obamacare in the 3+ years it's been around?


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Again, the GOP DID propose alternatives to the ACA but they weren't considered because the democrats had a super majority in the house and a filibuster proof majority in the senate at the time.

Among the many alternatives offered were cafe type plans, the ability to shop across state lines, expanded group formation, expanded HSA's, tort reform... yet none of those were even allowed into debate by the democratic majority, let alone voted on.

Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: And?

And the party of no ideas since clearly they have not been able to offer any alternative to Obamacare in the 3+ years it's been around?


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How about just keeping the status quo? Change, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGE, is rarely a good thing. Obamacare is an abortion of a disaster, but donks won't admit it. They're like buffalo, following their illustrious leader over the cliff.

Here is who the government is now run:

Chris Christie - as long as he lives until 2016 he gives the GOP a very legitimate chance to win the White House. People elect Presidents on the person, not the party. Christie versus Clinton will be a very enjoyable campaign to follow as both are very electable and very good candidates.

Oh, and with gerrymandering and overall polarization, neither party is ever dead. The GOP's going to keep the House in 2014 even if they misstep every day from now until then. Political entrenchment is very real.

GannonFan wrote:Chris Christie - as long as he lives until 2016 he gives the GOP a very legitimate chance to win the White House. People elect Presidents on the person, not the party. Christie versus Clinton will be a very enjoyable campaign to follow as both are very electable and very good candidates.

Oh, and with gerrymandering and overall polarization, neither party is ever dead. The GOP's going to keep the House in 2014 even if they misstep every day from now until then. Political entrenchment is very real.

But can Christie win the nomination?

GannonFan wrote:Chris Christie - as long as he lives until 2016 he gives the GOP a very legitimate chance to win the White House. People elect Presidents on the person, not the party. Christie versus Clinton will be a very enjoyable campaign to follow as both are very electable and very good candidates.

Oh, and with gerrymandering and overall polarization, neither party is ever dead. The GOP's going to keep the House in 2014 even if they misstep every day from now until then. Political entrenchment is very real.

So you are saying he'd eat her alive?

GannonFan wrote:Chris Christie - as long as he lives until 2016 he gives the GOP a very legitimate chance to win the White House. People elect Presidents on the person, not the party. Christie versus Clinton will be a very enjoyable campaign to follow as both are very electable and very good candidates.

Oh, and with gerrymandering and overall polarization, neither party is ever dead. The GOP's going to keep the House in 2014 even if they misstep every day from now until then. Political entrenchment is very real.

I do not see how Christie can make it through the GOP primary process unless a lot of Independents and Dems register as R's to vote for him.

The diehard R's won't forget this:



The NRA doesn't trust him. Taxes are high in NJ. He's an establishment Repub that has ripped on the Tea Party. I just don't see it happening.

Pwns wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Chris Christie - as long as he lives until 2016 he gives the GOP a very legitimate chance to win the White House. People elect Presidents on the person, not the party. Christie versus Clinton will be a very enjoyable campaign to follow as both are very electable and very good candidates.

Oh, and with gerrymandering and overall polarization, neither party is ever dead. The GOP's going to keep the House in 2014 even if they misstep every day from now until then. Political entrenchment is very real.

But can Christie win the nomination?

Mitt Romney, a Mormon of all things, made it through the GOP nomination process, so yes, Christie can certainly make it through as well.

GannonFan wrote:

Pwns wrote:
But can Christie win the nomination?

Mitt Romney, a Mormon of all things, made it through the GOP nomination process, so yes, Christie can certainly make it through as well.

And he is hungry for a win.

Spoiler: show

Sorry, I just can't help myself.

Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: And?

And the party of no ideas since clearly they have not been able to offer any alternative to Obamacare in the 3+ years it's been around?


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Holy non-sequitor Batman.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote: And the party of no ideas since clearly they have not been able to offer any alternative to Obamacare in the 3+ years it's been around?


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How about just keeping the status quo? Change, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGE, is rarely a good thing. Obamacare is an abortion of a disaster, but donks won't admit it. They're like buffalo, following their illustrious leader over the cliff.

Because the status quo, as it pertains to healthcare in this country, is fucked.