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Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:25 am
by Ibanez
This is an interesting opinion in the WaPo.
Today there is a New Confederacy, an insurgent political force that has captured the Republican Party and is taking up where the Old Confederacy left off in its efforts to bring down the federal government.
No shelling of a Union fort, no bloody battlefield clashes, no Good Friday assassination of a hated president — none of that nauseating, horrendous stuff. But the behavior is, nonetheless, malicious and appalling.
The New Confederacy, as churlish toward President Obama as the Old Confederacy was to Lincoln, has accomplished what its predecessor could not: It has shut down the federal government, and without even firing a weapon or taking 620,000 lives, as did the Old Confederacy’s instigated Civil War.
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Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:15 am
by Pwns
Wow,
he sure seems unbiased.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:16 am
by Ibanez
Pwns wrote:Wow,
he sure seems unbiased.
Just a little bit.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:21 am
by Grizalltheway
Pwns wrote:Wow,
he sure seems unbiased.
It's an
opinion piece, Cleetus.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:05 am
by dbackjon
Well, both are traitors to the US...
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:07 am
by Ibanez
dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
Oh Christ.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:10 am
by DSUrocks07
Ibanez wrote:dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
Oh Christ.
Just as we're traitors to Britain right?
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:14 am
by Grizalltheway
DSUrocks07 wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Oh Christ.
Just as we're traitors to Britain right?
We won, and winners write history.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:14 am
by BlueHen86
DSUrocks07 wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Oh Christ.
Just as we're traitors to Britain right?
“The difference between treason and patriotism is only a matter of dates.” ― Alexandre Dumas
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:24 am
by Chizzang
Grizalltheway wrote:Pwns wrote:Wow,
he sure seems unbiased.
It's an
opinion piece, Cleetus.
Whoa there skippy, I'm Cleetus
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:58 am
by CitadelGrad
dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
A traitor is one who commits treason. Separatism is not treason. The states of the Glorious Confederacy did not commit treason. They merely exercised their constitutional right to leave the United States.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:58 am
by Pwns
Grizalltheway wrote:Pwns wrote:Wow,
he sure seems unbiased.
It's an
opinion piece, Cleetus.
A very bad opinion piece that's short on facts a high on buzzwords and hyperbole. Allow me to give an appropriate rebuttal...
"Obama! Muslin! Socialist! Birth Certificate! End of white culture!"
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:21 pm
by Ibanez
DSUrocks07 wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Oh Christ.
Just as we're traitors to Britain right?
In dbacks POV, we weren't traitors in 1776 because we came out ahead.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:33 pm
by Grizalltheway
Ibanez wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:
Just as we're traitors to Britain right?
In dbacks POV, we weren't traitors in 1776 because we came out ahead.
See my previous post.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:34 pm
by Ibanez
Grizalltheway wrote:Ibanez wrote:
In dbacks POV, we weren't traitors in 1776 because we came out ahead.
See my previous post.
Great minds, amirite?
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:52 pm
by death dealer
Grizalltheway wrote:Pwns wrote:Wow,
he sure seems unbiased.
It's an
opinion piece, Cleetus.
Yeah, a shit-ass no good yankee pinko commie fag opinion piece.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:54 pm
by death dealer
dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
JFC, here we go.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:22 pm
by GannonFan
CitadelGrad wrote:dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
A traitor is one who commits treason. Separatism is not treason. The states of the Glorious Confederacy did not commit treason. They merely exercised their constitutional right to leave the United States.
The outcome of the Civil War disagrees with you.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:45 pm
by mrklean
CitadelGrad wrote:dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
A traitor is one who commits treason. Separatism is not treason. The states of the Glorious Confederacy did not commit treason. They merely exercised their constitutional right to leave the United States.
more bullshit
Robert E. Lee
Jefferson Davis....all traitors!!!!
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:00 am
by Skjellyfetti
CitadelGrad wrote:dbackjon wrote:Well, both are traitors to the US...
A traitor is one who commits treason. Separatism is not treason. The states of the Glorious Confederacy did not commit treason. They merely exercised their constitutional right to leave the United States.
I love how strict constuctionists have such a loose interpretation of the Constitution when they want to.
Where exactly does the Constitution grant states the right to leave the United States?
I will certainly admit that at the time of the Civil War... it was a constitutionally murky area.
But, just wondering how a strict constructionist interprets a constitutional right to secession in the Constitution?
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:23 am
by 93henfan
Our Government has become a reflection of us. He who does not agree with me is a traitor and hates America.
How dumb is that?
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:27 am
by YoUDeeMan
93henfan wrote:Our Government has become a reflection of us. He who does not agree with me is a traitor and hates America.
How dumb is that?
Better be careful...there might be a Predator aimed at you right now.
But, with the government shut down, you're probably off the hook...this time.
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:28 am
by Chizzang
93henfan wrote:Our Government has become a reflection of us. He who does not agree with me is a traitor and hates America.
How dumb is that?
George Bush used that to maximum effect
And Obama Care defenders are now using it
It's a weak tactic - but - historically (and I do mean throughout world history)
It has pretty much ALWAYS worked
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:29 am
by YoUDeeMan
Ibanez wrote:
Today there is a New Confederacy, an insurgent political force that has captured the Republican Party and is taking up where the Old Confederacy left off in its efforts to bring down the federal government.
No shelling of a Union fort, no bloody battlefield clashes, no Good Friday assassination of a hated president — none of that nauseating, horrendous stuff. But the behavior is, nonetheless, malicious and appalling.
He misspelled, "appealing."
Re: Tea Party is the New Confederacy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:23 pm
by CitadelGrad
Skjellyfetti wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
A traitor is one who commits treason. Separatism is not treason. The states of the Glorious Confederacy did not commit treason. They merely exercised their constitutional right to leave the United States.
I love how strict constuctionists have such a loose interpretation of the Constitution when they want to.
Where exactly does the Constitution grant states the right to leave the United States?
I will certainly admit that at the time of the Civil War... it was a constitutionally murky area.
But, just wondering how a strict constructionist interprets a constitutional right to secession in the Constitution?
The 10th Amendment.
The powers not specifically identified as powers of the federal government are reserved for the states and the people.
Have you ever taken a basic civics course in, either in high school or college?
The 10th Amendment is the foundation of federalism. Of course, low-information fucktards like you think federalism means the primacy of the federal government in all matters, because, um, you know, it has the word "federal" in it.