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Is this a reason to like the Tea Party?

Tea Party loosens K Street's stranglehold on the GOP

How did the Republican Party become so splintered and so infused with hard-line conservatives?

Don't blame redistricting. Don't chalk it up to anti-Obama fervor.

Republicans have become an unruly bunch of scorched-earth conservatives because the Tea Party smashed the business lobby's monopoly on GOP fundraising.
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Ted Cruz also came to Washington by defeating K Street. The Club for Growth spent more than $2.5 million helping Cruz in the Texas GOP primary, while the SCF spent about $800,000. K Street was backing Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst -- he got $500,000 from business PACs (33 times Cruz's take), and GOP lobbyists hosted a fundraiser for him at the Capitol Hill townhouse of Democratic superlobbyist Tony Podesta.

As Cruz put it, “Everyone who makes their living from continuing the government-spending gravy train is supporting Dewhurst.”

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“I don't think there's a way for Wall Street to punish the 25 to 50 hardcore House Republicans,” one Wall Street lobbyist told Politico in the first couple days of the shutdown. Referring to an anti-establishment libertarian freshman congressman, the lobbyist said, “I don't think Justin Amash cares if Bank of America gives to him or not.”

A Republican who doesn’t care about Bank of America checks wasn’t possible before the Tea Party.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/tea-party ... le/2536847

HI54UNI wrote:Is this a reason to like the Tea Party?

Tea Party loosens K Street's stranglehold on the GOP

How did the Republican Party become so splintered and so infused with hard-line conservatives?

Don't blame redistricting. Don't chalk it up to anti-Obama fervor.

Republicans have become an unruly bunch of scorched-earth conservatives because the Tea Party smashed the business lobby's monopoly on GOP fundraising.
.....

Ted Cruz also came to Washington by defeating K Street. The Club for Growth spent more than $2.5 million helping Cruz in the Texas GOP primary, while the SCF spent about $800,000. K Street was backing Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst -- he got $500,000 from business PACs (33 times Cruz's take), and GOP lobbyists hosted a fundraiser for him at the Capitol Hill townhouse of Democratic superlobbyist Tony Podesta.

As Cruz put it, “Everyone who makes their living from continuing the government-spending gravy train is supporting Dewhurst.”

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“I don't think there's a way for Wall Street to punish the 25 to 50 hardcore House Republicans,” one Wall Street lobbyist told Politico in the first couple days of the shutdown. Referring to an anti-establishment libertarian freshman congressman, the lobbyist said, “I don't think Justin Amash cares if Bank of America gives to him or not.”

A Republican who doesn’t care about Bank of America checks wasn’t possible before the Tea Party.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/tea-party ... le/2536847

Yes, especially if they start pushing for campaign finance reform.

On the other hand, you know who's not liking the Tea Party right now?

Mainstream Republicans. TP might be hurting donations...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4055431/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

kalm wrote:On the other hand, you know who's not liking the Tea Party right now?

Mainstream Republicans. TP might be hurting donations...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4055431/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The establishment is getting pissed. All the more reason to like the Tea Party!

HI54UNI wrote:

kalm wrote:On the other hand, you know who's not liking the Tea Party right now?

Mainstream Republicans. TP might be hurting donations...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4055431/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The establishment is getting pissed. All the more reason to like the Tea Party!

Establishment of parties needs to be shaken

But I refuse to go as far as to say I "like" the TP.

kalm wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:
The establishment is getting pissed. All the more reason to like the Tea Party!

Establishment of parties needs to be shaken

But I refuse to go as far as to say I "like" the TP.

The more they are vilified for upsetting the apple cart the more I am liking them.

Part of the problem for the GOP is they have to rail against a big government they helped create and that their constituents benefit from. Ken Cuchinelli avoided Ted Cruz like plague at a fundraiser last weekend. Think it has anything to do with all the furloughed fed workers in Virginia?

Too early to say.

If they divide the GOP, which seems to be the case right now, and they don't attract independents to their cause they could be in for a rough time in the next election cycle.

BlueHen86 wrote:Too early to say.

If they divide the GOP, which seems to be the case right now, and they don't attract independents to their cause they could be in for a rough time in the next election cycle.

What needs to happen is a TP style schism to occur in the Democratic side. Blue Dogs need to return to prominence. Right now there isn't a strong dissenting voice among the Dems. Everyone is in lockstep with each other...bunch of robots.

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DSUrocks07 wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:Too early to say.

If they divide the GOP, which seems to be the case right now, and they don't attract independents to their cause they could be in for a rough time in the next election cycle.

What needs to happen is a TP style schism to occur in the Democratic side. Blue Dogs need to return to prominence. Right now there isn't a strong dissenting voice among the Dems. Everyone is in lockstep with each other...bunch of robots.

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Wow...really? You think the liberals are in control?

kalm wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:
What needs to happen is a TP style schism to occur in the Democratic side. Blue Dogs need to return to prominence. Right now there isn't a strong dissenting voice among the Dems. Everyone is in lockstep with each other...bunch of robots.

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Wow...really? You think the liberals are in control?

You think they aren't in control of the Democratic Party?

kalm wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:
What needs to happen is a TP style schism to occur in the Democratic side. Blue Dogs need to return to prominence. Right now there isn't a strong dissenting voice among the Dems. Everyone is in lockstep with each other...bunch of robots.

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Wow...really? You think the liberals are in control?

Who won the Fed Chair fight within the Democrat Party???

While the liberals are not in total control, they are in the ascendency.. And a TP-like battle is about to breakout as progressives try to take total control...

Col Hogan wrote:

kalm wrote:
Wow...really? You think the liberals are in control?

Who won the Fed Chair fight within the Democrat Party???

While the liberals are not in total control, they are in the ascendency.. And a TP-like battle is about to breakout as progressives try to take total control...

When I think liberal, I think Bernie Sanders. People like Harry Reid and Barak Obama are not liberals. They are essentially what mainstream republicans were 30 years ago.

kalm wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
Who won the Fed Chair fight within the Democrat Party???

While the liberals are not in total control, they are in the ascendency.. And a TP-like battle is about to breakout as progressives try to take total control...

When I think liberal, I think Bernie Sanders. People like Harry Reid and Barak Obama are not liberals. They are essentially what mainstream republicans were 30 years ago.

Mainstream Republicans 30 years ago were not statists.

CitadelGrad wrote:

kalm wrote:
When I think liberal, I think Bernie Sanders. People like Harry Reid and Barak Obama are not liberals. They are essentially what mainstream republicans were 30 years ago.

Mainstream Republicans 30 years ago were not statists.

They were anarchists?

kalm wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
Mainstream Republicans 30 years ago were not statists.

They were anarchists?

Does the phrase "false dichotomy" mean anything to you?

CitadelGrad wrote:

kalm wrote:
They were anarchists?

Does the phrase "false dichotomy" mean anything to you?

No