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Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:05 am
by BDKJMU
Hundreds gather to fly Confederate flag high above I-95 amid controversy
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With a rebel yell, “Dixie,” had its day Saturday.

As promised, the Virginia Flaggers heritage group hoisted yesterday a 15 foot-by-15 foot Confederate battle flag on a swath of freshly cleared forestland adjacent to well-traveled I-95 in Virginia.

An historian spoke, a rendition of “Dixie,” was sung, a bagpiper played “Amazing Grace,” – and, yes – there was, indeed, a rebel yell.

Hundreds gathered for the ceremony, held in Chester, about 10 miles south of Richmond.

The flaggers had announced earlier this year their intention to hoist the red-and-blue flag up a 50-foot pole located on a parcel of privately owned land donated specifically for the purpose.

[pulquote]

The group’s members – and its advocates – have argued their intention is solely to honor those who fought for the South during the Civil War.

As John Thompson, a 50-year-old Richmond resident, said, “The reason why we’re here is to honor the soldier. We don’t see it as a slavery issue.”

But the effort has sparked consternation and controversy from those who counter that the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia is too heavily freighted with connotations of slavery and bigotry.

“Their flag is out of context,” said Richmond attorney Brian Cannon, who notably organized a social media protest over the I-95 flag. “It’s a symbol of divisiveness and for many it’s hateful.”

Opponents gathered nearly 25,000 signatures for on an online protest petition, and encouraged Richmond residents to fly American flags as a sign of protest. An American flag about 60 feet wide was unfurled at a construction site in downtown Richmond around noon Saturday.

But the flaggers were undeterred, unfurling the banner in a spot prominent to passing motorists on the interstate.

“As sons and daughters of the South, we have inherited a birthright. Ours is a proud heritage,” said Susan Hathaway, a member of the Virginia Flaggers. “We are descendants of Confederates, we are friends of Confederates. ... The flag that is being raised today will be a living, breathing memorial to our Confederate dead.”

Thomas Morris, a Civil War re-enactor from Crewe, said he was befuddled by objections to the memorial.

“We wouldn’t make comments like that if they were trying to memorialize their heritage,” noted Morris, 59.

He then mentioned a 16-year-old ancestor who once served under Gen. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson and was killed in Culpeper in what Morris called “the war of Northern aggression.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:35 am
by dbackjon
You must be proud. BDKKKJMU

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:58 am
by kalm
I think soldiers from both sides should be honored.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:09 am
by Ibanez
dbackjon wrote:You must be proud. BDKKKJMU
Oh yeah, because nothing bad ever happened under the American Flag. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :roll:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:25 am
by bluehenbillk
Please. If people have the right to burn the American flag (which I don't agree with) they sure as hell should have the right to fly a Confederate flag. :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:58 pm
by Chizzang
I'm still trying to figure out how (or why) this is even news..?

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:01 pm
by 93henfan
kalm wrote:I think soldiers from both sides should be honored.
I agree. Let the people have their heritage. If you're going to have every fringe group in this country reaching back generations to define their heritage and what is "owed" to them, you're going to have to allow everyone to celebrate their heritage.

If you don't like it, go fuck yourself.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:36 pm
by CAA Flagship
93henfan wrote:......go fuck yourself.
Would this be considered homosexual? If not, can someone please explain how this is done?

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:41 pm
by houndawg
Chizzang wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how (or why) this is even news..?
This.

Some people like to worship losers, big deal.

I don't hear anybody complaining about Cubs fans worshiping losers. :coffee:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:43 pm
by houndawg
BDKJMU wrote:Hundreds gather to fly Confederate flag high above I-95 amid controversy
Image

With a rebel yell, “Dixie,” had its day Saturday.

As promised, the Virginia Flaggers heritage group hoisted yesterday a 15 foot-by-15 foot Confederate battle flag on a swath of freshly cleared forestland adjacent to well-traveled I-95 in Virginia.

An historian spoke, a rendition of “Dixie,” was sung, a bagpiper played “Amazing Grace,” – and, yes – there was, indeed, a rebel yell.

Hundreds gathered for the ceremony, held in Chester, about 10 miles south of Richmond.

The flaggers had announced earlier this year their intention to hoist the red-and-blue flag up a 50-foot pole located on a parcel of privately owned land donated specifically for the purpose.

[pulquote]

The group’s members – and its advocates – have argued their intention is solely to honor those who fought for the South during the Civil War.

As John Thompson, a 50-year-old Richmond resident, said, “The reason why we’re here is to honor the soldier. We don’t see it as a slavery issue.”

But the effort has sparked consternation and controversy from those who counter that the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia is too heavily freighted with connotations of slavery and bigotry.

“Their flag is out of context,” said Richmond attorney Brian Cannon, who notably organized a social media protest over the I-95 flag. “It’s a symbol of divisiveness and for many it’s hateful.”

Opponents gathered nearly 25,000 signatures for on an online protest petition, and encouraged Richmond residents to fly American flags as a sign of protest. An American flag about 60 feet wide was unfurled at a construction site in downtown Richmond around noon Saturday.

But the flaggers were undeterred, unfurling the banner in a spot prominent to passing motorists on the interstate.

“As sons and daughters of the South, we have inherited a birthright. Ours is a proud heritage,” said Susan Hathaway, a member of the Virginia Flaggers. “We are descendants of Confederates, we are friends of Confederates. ... The flag that is being raised today will be a living, breathing memorial to our Confederate dead.”

Thomas Morris, a Civil War re-enactor from Crewe, said he was befuddled by objections to the memorial.

“We wouldn’t make comments like that if they were trying to memorialize their heritage,” noted Morris, 59.

He then mentioned a 16-year-old ancestor who once served under Gen. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson and was killed in Culpeper in what Morris called “the war of Northern aggression.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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:lol:

The War of Northern Asskicking.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:48 pm
by 93henfan
houndawg wrote: :lol:

The War of Northern Asskicking.
Actually, the South killed twice as many enemy soldiers as the North (140K vs 70K KIA).

Luckily for the North, we had way more people and resources, so the South never really stood a chance. What kept the war going for four full years was the superior fighting ability and leadership of the Confederate army.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:55 pm
by houndawg
93henfan wrote:
houndawg wrote: :lol:

The War of Northern Asskicking.
Actually, the South killed twice as many enemy soldiers as the North (140K vs 70K KIA).

Luckily for the North, we had way more people and resources, so the South never really stood a chance. What kept the war going for four full years was the superior fighting ability and leadership of the Confederate army.
Once the North decided to get serious about fighting they kicked ass with ease. :coffee:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:57 pm
by 93henfan
houndawg wrote: Once the North finally attritted the Confederate army they kicked ass with ease. :coffee:
FIFY

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:58 pm
by AZGrizFan
houndawg wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Actually, the South killed twice as many enemy soldiers as the North (140K vs 70K KIA).

Luckily for the North, we had way more people and resources, so the South never really stood a chance. What kept the war going for four full years was the superior fighting ability and leadership of the Confederate army.
Once the North decided to get serious about fighting they kicked ass with ease. :coffee:
Translation: Once the North decided to bring in a general who knew a little something about war, they kicked ass with ease.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:00 pm
by mainejeff
Southerners need to get a life!

:coffee:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:02 pm
by 93henfan
mainejeff wrote:Southerners need to get a life!

:coffee:
Yes, that's why they're all moving north and lowering your taxes, right?

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:03 pm
by houndawg
93henfan wrote:
houndawg wrote: :lol:

The War of Northern Asskicking.
Actually, the South killed twice as many enemy soldiers as the North (140K vs 70K KIA).

Luckily for the North, we had way more people and resources, so the South never really stood a chance. What kept the war going for four full years was the superior fighting ability and leadership of the Confederate army.
Southerners love their rhetoric, their problems happen when they start believing their own bullshit. :coffee:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:04 pm
by houndawg
93henfan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Southerners need to get a life!

:coffee:
Yes, that's why they're all moving north and lowering your taxes, right?
The blue states have been carrying them for decades. :coffee:

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:43 pm
by Chizzang
93henfan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Southerners need to get a life!

:coffee:
Yes, that's why they're all moving north and lowering your taxes, right?
So the Red states are now taking credit for the weather in the south...?
Interesting

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:51 pm
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how (or why) this is even news..?
This

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:10 pm
by BDKJMU
93henfan wrote:
houndawg wrote: :lol:

The War of Northern Asskicking.
Actually, the South killed twice as many enemy soldiers as the North (140K vs 70K KIA).

Luckily for the North, we had way more people and resources, so the South never really stood a chance. What kept the war going for four full years was the superior fighting ability and leadership of the Confederate army.
Yep, the North had about 4x as many white folks, about 22 million to 5.5 million. During the entire war about 1 million served in the South, while about 2 million did in the North..

Plus the north had the majority of the manufacturing capacity at the time.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:24 pm
by SuperHornet
Say goodbye to the Commonwealth of Virginia hosting NCAA post-season events....

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:13 pm
by BDKJMU
SuperHornet wrote:Say goodbye to the Commonwealth of Virginia hosting NCAA post-season events....
Your'e an idiot.. :rofl: :dunce: Not state sanctioned. The NCAA can't do a thing...If every state that had a bunch of folks in some woods raise a battle flag lost post season NCAA events, there wouldn't be post season NCAA events in at most states.

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:13 pm
by houndawg
bluehenbillk wrote:Please. If people have the right to burn the American flag (which I don't agree with) they sure as hell should have the right to fly a Confederate flag. :coffee: :coffee:
Agree.

You'd prefer no flag burning and no flying the losers flag?

Re: Battle Flag Flies above I95

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:15 pm
by houndawg
BDKJMU wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Actually, the South killed twice as many enemy soldiers as the North (140K vs 70K KIA).

Luckily for the North, we had way more people and resources, so the South never really stood a chance. What kept the war going for four full years was the superior fighting ability and leadership of the Confederate army.
Yep, the North had about 4x as many white folks, about 22 million to 5.5 million. During the entire war about 1 million served in the South, while about 2 million did in the North..

Plus the north had the majority of the manufacturing capacity at the time.
Stupid fvcks should have thought of that before picking a fight. :coffee: