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Just to solidify my liberal bona fides...

Why don't economists place a monetary value on the environment. Should they?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se55CCdfaOA[/youtube]

(conks are gonna HATE this video )

kalm wrote:Just to solidify my liberal bona fides...

Why don't economists place a monetary value on the environment. Should they?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se55CCdfaOA[/youtube]

(conks are gonna HATE this video )

Great video!

Wonderful photography and it made me laugh. Two thumbs up!!

Fucking conks=the root of all evil and agents of destruction.


6 days a week they destroy the environment, then at church on Sunday, pedophiles, homosexual deviants and scoundrels tell them they're serving god and to keep up the good work-and make a donation to the church.

SMFH at conks.

Cool story, bro.

I thought the guy was going to advocate that we start paying the bees and micro-organisms in the video a living wage for all the work and services they do.

But seriously, these externalities do and should get factored into good business plans. Heck, there's even an ISO standard (ISO 14000) that's all about managing and limiting the environmental impact of a business and it does so by ensuring that impacts are quantified. No doubt, there are many cases where they don't and that is a shame and it shouldn't happen. But most people don't go into a business or a market with the express purpose of killing the environment to make money. I know that doesn't fit into the simplisitc, black and white picture laid out in that video, but then again the world's a bit more complicated than that.

GannonFan wrote:Cool story, bro.

I thought the guy was going to advocate that we start paying the bees and micro-organisms in the video a living wage for all the work and services they do.

But seriously, these externalities do and should get factored into good business plans. Heck, there's even an ISO standard (ISO 14000) that's all about managing and limiting the environmental impact of a business and it does so by ensuring that impacts are quantified. No doubt, there are many cases where they don't and that is a shame and it shouldn't happen. But most people don't go into a business or a market with the express purpose of killing the environment to make money. I know that doesn't fit into the simplisitc, black and white picture laid out in that video, but then again the world's a bit more complicated than that.

American mining companies would like a word with you.

People who study ecology or some kind of environmental science should not be mocking the lack of scientific rigor in economics. Both are soft sciences and people should be skeptical about them. Weren't we supposed to have already passed the malthusian catastrophe that was supposed to be inevitable and right around the corner back in the 70s?

GannonFan wrote:Cool story, bro.

I thought the guy was going to advocate that we start paying the bees and micro-organisms in the video a living wage for all the work and services they do.

But seriously, these externalities do and should get factored into good business plans. Heck, there's even an ISO standard (ISO 14000) that's all about managing and limiting the environmental impact of a business and it does so by ensuring that impacts are quantified. No doubt, there are many cases where they don't and that is a shame and it shouldn't happen. But most people don't go into a business or a market with the express purpose of killing the environment to make money. I know that doesn't fit into the simplisitc, black and white picture laid out in that video, but then again the world's a bit more complicated than that.

Just the biggest, most powerful and destructive goliaths do, you fucking asshole. Mining, Oil, Coal, Food, Red Meat, Lumber, Seafood, and War.

Quit making excuse you stupid conk.

kalm wrote:Just to solidify my liberal bona fides...

Why don't economists place a monetary value on the environment. Should they?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se55CCdfaOA[/youtube]

(conks are gonna HATE this video )

Carbon Credits tried to put a value on the environment

Regardless of who's side you're on...
Future generations are going to have to figure something out
(and good luck) because it's not in our default nature as humans to consider that everything is connected / for some reason we just refuse to believe that

Just look at any global population growth chart and stagger backwards in disbelief...
We are not much different than a virus consuming it's host (at near insane growth rates)
It's an old analogy - I know I know - but it smacks of truth

Chizzang wrote:Regardless of who's side you're on...
Future generations are going to have to figure something out
(and good luck) because it's not in our default nature as humans to consider that everything is connected / for some reason we just refuse to believe that

Just look at any global population growth chart and stagger backwards in disbelief...
We are not much different than a virus consuming it's host (at near insane growth rates)
It's an old analogy - I know I know - but it smacks of truth

For some reason????

One word - RELIGION

BisonMav wrote:

kalm wrote:Just to solidify my liberal bona fides...

Why don't economists place a monetary value on the environment. Should they?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se55CCdfaOA[/youtube]

(conks are gonna HATE this video )

Carbon Credits tried to put a value on the environment

So what, fuck head? Credits, Points, Dollars....you gotta speak the language of big industry. It's all they understand and care about - in both their personal and professional lives.

Conks = the root of all evil and the primary agent of our destruction as a species.

D1B wrote: So what, **** head? Credits, Points, Dollars....you gotta speak the language of big industry. It's all they understand and care about - in both their personal and professional lives.

Conks = the root of all evil and the primary agent of our destruction as a species.

Now I know why you love being a conklodite, big money, big booze and big parties while you watch the earth burns.

BisonMav wrote:

D1B wrote: So what, **** head? Credits, Points, Dollars....you gotta speak the language of big industry. It's all they understand and care about - in both their personal and professional lives.

Conks = the root of all evil and the primary agent of our destruction as a species.

Now I know why you love being a conklodite, big money, big booze and big parties while you watch the earth burns.

So, associating me with what I abhor is your strategy?

Listen here, newby conk fuck, you have to find something else.

BisonMav wrote:

D1B wrote: So what, **** head? Credits, Points, Dollars....you gotta speak the language of big industry. It's all they understand and care about - in both their personal and professional lives.

Conks = the root of all evil and the primary agent of our destruction as a species.

Now I know why you love being a conklodite, big money, big booze and big parties while you watch the earth burns.

Conks would crawl over their dying mothers to fvck their dead sisters if there was a dollar to be made at it.

D1B wrote: So, associating me with what I abhor is your strategy?

Listen here, newby conk ****, you have to find something else.

Walk like a conk, talk like a conk, must be a conklodite, can't hide in the closet forever bud.

Chizzang wrote: We are not much different than a virus consuming it's host (at near insane growth rates)
It's an old analogy - I know I know - but it smacks of truth

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI[/youtube]

Chizzang wrote: Just look at any global population growth chart and stagger backwards in disbelief...

Give me a good reason to believe the world population is growing as fast as the UN thinks when the developing countries responsible for most of the population growth have limited if any medical records, birth and death certificates, census bureaus, or any kind of public health agencies. Estimating birth rates and rates of death from HIV, malaria and starvation are essentially guesses with no way to validate the estimation methods.

Grizalltheway wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Cool story, bro.

I thought the guy was going to advocate that we start paying the bees and micro-organisms in the video a living wage for all the work and services they do.

But seriously, these externalities do and should get factored into good business plans. Heck, there's even an ISO standard (ISO 14000) that's all about managing and limiting the environmental impact of a business and it does so by ensuring that impacts are quantified. No doubt, there are many cases where they don't and that is a shame and it shouldn't happen. But most people don't go into a business or a market with the express purpose of killing the environment to make money. I know that doesn't fit into the simplisitc, black and white picture laid out in that video, but then again the world's a bit more complicated than that.

American mining companies would like a word with you.

The electricity that feeds your computer is generated by wind turbines that kill birds at an alarming rate. You should be ashamed.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
American mining companies would like a word with you.

The electricity that feeds your computer is generated by wind turbines that kill birds at an alarming rate. You should be ashamed.

Actually it's generated by a dam, which created a lake that's great for fishing, boating, and even sailing. See, it is possible to live in harmony with the environment, if only conks would try.

Grizalltheway wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: The electricity that feeds your computer is generated by wind turbines that kill birds at an alarming rate. You should be ashamed.

Actually it's generated by a dam, which created a lake that's great for fishing, boating, and even sailing. See, it is possible to live in harmony with the environment, if only conks would try.

Unless beavers built the dam man destroyed part of the environment to build it and to create the lake. Why do you hate the environment that was destroyed?

houndawg wrote:

BisonMav wrote:
Now I know why you love being a conklodite, big money, big booze and big parties while you watch the earth burns.

Conks would crawl over their dying mothers to fvck their dead sisters if there was a dollar to be made at it.

George Soros, Mort Zuckerman, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey, Tom Steyer, Irwin Jacobs, Fred Eychaner, Haim Saban, and countless other Obamaite Donk billionaires would like a word with you. Don't think they appreciate you calling them Conks

GannonFan wrote:Cool story, bro.

I thought the guy was going to advocate that we start paying the bees and micro-organisms in the video a living wage for all the work and services they do.

But seriously, these externalities do and should get factored into good business plans. Heck, there's even an ISO standard (ISO 14000) that's all about managing and limiting the environmental impact of a business and it does so by ensuring that impacts are quantified. No doubt, there are many cases where they don't and that is a shame and it shouldn't happen. But most people don't go into a business or a market with the express purpose of killing the environment to make money. I know that doesn't fit into the simplisitc, black and white picture laid out in that video, but then again the world's a bit more complicated than that.

I think he's looking at this more from a macro level...

I love the picture in the video of the cooling towers releasing water vapor into the air. Deadly!

HI54UNI wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: Actually it's generated by a dam, which created a lake that's great for fishing, boating, and even sailing. See, it is possible to live in harmony with the environment, if only conks would try.

Unless beavers built the dam man destroyed part of the environment to build it and to create the lake. Why do you hate the environment that was destroyed?

Man is always going to have some sort of impact on the environment. It's about being conscious of it and minimizing it whenever possible.

Grizalltheway wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:
Unless beavers built the dam man destroyed part of the environment to build it and to create the lake. Why do you hate the environment that was destroyed?

Man is always going to have some sort of impact on the environment. It's about being conscious of it and minimizing it whenever possible.

This! No need to throw the baby out with the reservoir water...or something like that.