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Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:04 am
by kalm
JFC. At least Clinton and Greenspan kinda-sorta admitted that they got deregulation wrong. But not Larry.

Obama's a bad, bad president and anything but a progressive. :nod:
The idea that Barack Obama would still consider appointing Lawrence Summers to head the Federal Reserve rather than order an investigation into this former White House official's Wall Street payments, reported Friday by the Wall Street Journal, mocks the president's claimed concern for the disappearing middle class. Summers is in large measure responsible for that dismal outcome, and twice now, after top level economic postings in both the Clinton and Obama administrations, he has returned to gorge himself at the Wall Street trough.

As Clinton's Treasury secretary, he pushed for radical deregulation allowing investment bankers to take wild risks with the federally insured deposits of ordinary folks, a disastrous move compounded when he successfully urged Congress to pass legislation banning the effective regulation of the tens of trillions in derivatives that often proved to be toxic.

The first direct result of those new laws was the mammoth merger that created Citigroup. Eight years later, the federal government had to save Citigroup from bankruptcy brought on by its leading role in the sale of those toxic mortgage-based derivatives, to the tune of $45 billion in taxpayer funds and backing $300 billion of the bank's bad paper...

...That's because Obama, following Summers' advice, adopted the save-the-bankers-first philosophy of his predecessor, with outrageous publicly funded bailouts of the same financial conglomerates that had put the economy into a deep tailspin. It is a policy that continues to this day, with an outlay of $85 billion a month by the Federal Reserve to purchase toxic assets from the banks' books in the hopes that they will reinvest that largess. But as the president's jobs critique noted, they haven't.

Trillions have been passed on to the banks to relieve them of the burden of the toxic derivatives they created, derivatives that then-Treasury Secretary Summers testified to Congress were no threat to the "thriving market" that "has assumed a major role in our own economy and become a magnet for derivative business from around the world." No threat there because, "given the nature of the underlying assets involved ... there would seem to be little scope for market manipulation. ... "

This is an idiotic statement by someone Obama considers brilliant, or as the president put it when Summers left the White House in September 2010 to get back into the big money game: "I will always be grateful that at a time of great peril for our country, a man of Larry's brilliance, experience and judgment was willing to answer the call and lead our economic team."
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Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:10 am
by Ibanez
This article, coming from HuffPost, is pretty interesting. Guys, you all now Obama is an extremely arrogant person. His ego has ruined so much.

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:03 am
by Baldy
Your typical neo-Keynesian Academic Economist. He and Obama are made for each other. :coffee:

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:05 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:Your typical neo-Keynesian Academic Economist. He and Obama are made for each other. :coffee:
And Wall Street, and Greenspan, and Rubin.... :lol:

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:13 am
by LeadBolt
The Fed Chairman, whoever it turns out to be, needs to be independent and not the President's guy.

The last Fed Chairman we had that wasn't independent was Arthur Burns, who did Nixon's bidding. As everyone who lived through it and those who have read about it know, that didn't turn out so well.

Here's hoping Obama is smart enough to appoint a Fed Chairman that will be independent and not one who will just do O's bidding.

Even though Bernanke was GWB's Chairman of Economic Advisors, he was independent.

I'm not impressed with Larry Summers, and don't know the other candidates. Here's hoping whoever it is can help balance out the disasters in the Congress and White House that have no clue. :coffee:

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:07 am
by CitadelGrad
Obama will nominate whomever he is told to nominate. You don't really think the international banking cartel will leave it up to a dumbass like Obama, do you?

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:12 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote:Your typical neo-Keynesian Academic Economist. He and Obama are made for each other. :coffee:
And Wall Street, and Greenspan, and Rubin.... :lol:
Not exactly. During Summers tenure, four new regulations on the financial industry were imposed for every one regulation lifted. Not all regulations are created equal, but don't fool yourself and think Summers is some sort of laissez-faire zealot. As I said earlier, he is your typical neo-Keynesian academic who doesn't know the difference between politics and policy.

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:26 am
by Ibanez
CitadelGrad wrote:Obama will nominate whomever he is told to nominate. You don't really think the international banking cartel will leave it up to a dumbass like Obama, do you?
:thumb: This is exactly what will happen.

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:31 am
by Ivytalk
Whatever happened to Janet Yellen? :?

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:58 am
by CitadelGrad
Ivytalk wrote:Whatever happened to Janet Yellen? :?
She's hanging out in the background. She doesn't have the notoriety that Summers has, and at the moment is less controversial than Summers. She's still very much in the running for the Fed chairmanship. Soros hasn't yet made his decision.

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:13 am
by Pwns
Why aren't we discussing how to make our fed chairmen hires more diverse?

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:27 am
by Ivytalk
CitadelGrad wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Whatever happened to Janet Yellen? :?
She's hanging out in the background. She doesn't have the notoriety that Summers has, and at the moment is less controversial than Summers. She's still very much in the running for the Fed chairmanship. Soros hasn't yet made his decision.
Today's WSJ says that there is a third candidate: former Fed vice chair Donald Kohn.

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:13 pm
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
And Wall Street, and Greenspan, and Rubin.... :lol:
Not exactly. During Summers tenure, four new regulations on the financial industry were imposed for every one regulation lifted. Not all regulations are created equal, but don't fool yourself and think Summers is some sort of laissez-faire zealot. As I said earlier, he is your typical neo-Keynesian academic who doesn't know the difference between politics and policy.
And Obama is a progressive too. :lol:
The contrasts between the two leading candidates are stark. Larry Summers epitomizes the Wall Street boys’ club, and has time and time again proven himself wrong. Yellen, on the other hand, has excelled in her duties, offered prescient views on risks to markets, and works well with others. She also would be a historic nominee if she were to break the glass ceiling at the Fed.

The choice for Federal Reserve chair is with President Obama. He can side with the Wall Street protectors—Summers, Tim Geithner and Robert Rubin—who were chiefly responsible for Wall Street deregulation, followed by Wall Street bailouts. Or he can side with the American people.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exch ... 25387.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:06 pm
by Ivytalk
My money's on Yellen. BHO has to keep the feminazis in line for 2014, which is all he thinks about anyway.He has the Rubin faction locked up. :coffee:

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:39 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote: Not exactly. During Summers tenure, four new regulations on the financial industry were imposed for every one regulation lifted. Not all regulations are created equal, but don't fool yourself and think Summers is some sort of laissez-faire zealot. As I said earlier, he is your typical neo-Keynesian academic who doesn't know the difference between politics and policy.
And Obama is a progressive too. :lol:
The contrasts between the two leading candidates are stark. Larry Summers epitomizes the Wall Street boys’ club, and has time and time again proven himself wrong. Yellen, on the other hand, has excelled in her duties, offered prescient views on risks to markets, and works well with others. She also would be a historic nominee if she were to break the glass ceiling at the Fed.

The choice for Federal Reserve chair is with President Obama. He can side with the Wall Street protectors—Summers, Tim Geithner and Robert Rubin—who were chiefly responsible for Wall Street deregulation, followed by Wall Street bailouts. Or he can side with the American people.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exch ... 25387.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With corporations like Google, Apple, Berkshire Hathaway, Microsoft, Facebook, etc. the "Wall Street Boys Club" is a "progressive" circle jerk, so that article made me :rofl: .

Thanks for sharing. :thumb:

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:23 am
by CitadelGrad
I wouldn't mind seeing Volcker back at the Fed. He's already been fucked once by Obama, so he probably doesn't want to find himself vulnerable to another Obama fucking.

Re: Larry Summers

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:22 am
by Ivytalk
CitadelGrad wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Volcker back at the Fed. He's already been **** once by Obama, so he probably doesn't want to find himself vulnerable to another Obama ****.
But Volcker is 85. He doesn't have the youthful panache of the other candidates. 8-)