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Sorry guys - the real reason why you are looking at this thread.

After doing a quick Google search on the issue I'd be a lot more concerned about higher electric bills than about health effects. This thing where people think that if there is "radiation" there are going to be health effects is epidemic. It's just not the case. Like I saw one anti smart meter web page referring to studies showing that cell phones cause cancer. Cell phones have not been shown to cause cancer. Cell phone use does not expose people to ionizing radiation.

Neither do smart meters.

JohnStOnge wrote:After doing a quick Google search on the issue I'd be a lot more concerned about higher electric bills than about health effects. This thing where people think that if there is "radiation" there are going to be health effects is epidemic. It's just not the case. Like I saw one anti smart meter web page referring to studies showing that cell phones cause cancer. Cell phones have not been shown to cause cancer. Cell phone use does not expose people to ionizing radiation.

Neither do smart meters.

Most of the higher electric bills comes from increased accuracy. If you go from an old mechanical/disk type meter to a solid state meter (smart or not) your bill is going to go up because it catches everything where the disk type meters don't.

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Not to try and out do Hi54UNI.......well maybe just a little

also:

HI54UNI wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:After doing a quick Google search on the issue I'd be a lot more concerned about higher electric bills than about health effects. This thing where people think that if there is "radiation" there are going to be health effects is epidemic. It's just not the case. Like I saw one anti smart meter web page referring to studies showing that cell phones cause cancer. Cell phones have not been shown to cause cancer. Cell phone use does not expose people to ionizing radiation.

Neither do smart meters.

Most of the higher electric bills comes from increased accuracy. If you go from an old mechanical/disk type meter to a solid state meter (smart or not) your bill is going to go up because it catches everything where the disk type meters don't.

Right after PG&E installed smart meters, all of my tenants began complaining about increased gas & electric bills...approx. 25-30% increase. They all called PG&E and complained to no avail. Out here in Sacto. Sacramento Municipal Utility District just announced their intent to raise rates...again...after a recent 17% increase...

...wait for it...

...due to declining revenues as a result of an unexpectedly high number of Sacramento residents qualifying for Low Income rates (approx. 30% reduction).

SMUD, btw, is an infamously "green" utility which purchases an above average amount of energy from (expensive) alternative energy sources (and also spends millions annually on alternative energy "education").

I can confirm, since most urban areas, including Sacto., have installed smart meters for all gas, electric and water meters, that smart meters are anything but "smart". They just allow utility companies to cut back on workers while pocketing the savings from reduced COGS.

travelinman67 wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:
Most of the higher electric bills comes from increased accuracy. If you go from an old mechanical/disk type meter to a solid state meter (smart or not) your bill is going to go up because it catches everything where the disk type meters don't.

Right after PG&E installed smart meters, all of my tenants began complaining about increased gas & electric bills...approx. 25-30% increase. They all called PG&E and complained to no avail. Out here in Sacto. Sacramento Municipal Utility District just announced their intent to raise rates...again...after a recent 17% increase...

...wait for it...

...due to declining revenues as a result of an unexpectedly high number of Sacramento residents qualifying for Low Income rates (approx. 30% reduction).

SMUD, btw, is an infamously "green" utility which purchases an above average amount of energy from (expensive) alternative energy sources (and also spends millions annually on alternative energy "education").

I can confirm, since most urban areas, including Sacto., have installed smart meters for all gas, electric and water meters, that smart meters are anything but "smart". They just allow utility companies to cut back on workers while pocketing the savings from reduced COGS.

Smart meters are increasing costs because the utility gets their rate of return on investment. They also save money by avoiding truck rolls whether it be for meter reading or outages. The main reason rates keep going up is mandates. Green energy mandates, energy efficiency mandates, etc. A utility company has fixed costs for trucks, employees, wires, etc. The govt forces them to pay customers to become more efficient and use less of the company's product (energy). So the company has to increase rates to cover the fixed costs that are the same. The funniest thing is the libs that impose all these mandates are generally also the ones that supposedly care about the poor and yet all of these mandates have the biggest negative mandate on the poor.