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Small business owner approval rating of Obama - skyrocketing.


Thank you Commander Barack Obama!

Keep up the good work, Sir.

Let's see what happens when Obamacare is enacted. Small businesses will have employees working 29.5 hrs/week so they can stay in business and avoid having to provide exorbitant health insurance costs.

ASUG8 wrote:Let's see what happens when Obamacare is enacted. Small businesses will have employees working 29.5 hrs/week so they can stay in business and avoid having to provide exorbitant health insurance costs.

Sure thing. You're 0 for 175 Geighter. Small business owners would not be optimistic at record levels if your doomsday BS was not doomsday BS.

All you fucking conks do is complain.

D1B wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:Let's see what happens when Obamacare is enacted. Small businesses will have employees working 29.5 hrs/week so they can stay in business and avoid having to provide exorbitant health insurance costs.

Sure thing. You're 0 for 175 Geighter. Small business owners would not be optimistic at record levels if your doomsday BS was not doomsday BS.

All you fucking conks do is complain.

It's not doomsday BS. Here's a left wing analysis.

An increasing number of companies now say paying the government's penalty to break the law will be cheaper than following it, The Wall Street Journal reports.

An Obamacare provision that goes into effect next year requires businesses with 50 or more full-time workers to provide health care coverage for employees. For businesses that don't, there is a $2,000 penalty for each full-time worker above the 30-employee threshold. (Full-time workers are defined as anyone who works more than 30 hours a week in a given month.)

Rick Levi, owner of Consolidated Management, a Des Moines, Iowa-based company that runs cafeterias at schools, offices and jails in 10 states, told the Journal the penalty is all he can afford. He employs 102 workers and will be required to offer coverage to many under the new law, at a cost of more than $500,000 per year if every employee takes the insurance plan. The penalty will cost him around $144,000.

Currently, the food services company pays approximately $140,000 to provide coverage for 25 managerial staff, Levi said, leaving dozens of other workers on their own to find health insurance. When reached by phone on Monday, chief financial officer Rick Larson told The Huffington Post that the company does not track how those employees obtain health care insurance. The company does provide access to some limited-benefit plans, like Starbridge, for workers not covered under the company's health care plan, Larson added. These kinds of limited health care plans can reduce rates on basic medical services, but are not considered full insurance plans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/0 ... 37749.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A survey by the American Action Forum found that major insurers in five big cities expect some small-business premiums to more than double. A Massachusetts insurance broker is warning small businesses there to expect rate hikes of 30 percent or more next year.

In Maryland, CareFirst Blue Cross Blue Shield, the state’s largest insurer, is seeking approval for a 15-percent hike on small-business plans in 2014. Rhode Island insurers are pushing for equally steep increases — and pointing to Obamacare as the cause.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/ ... obamacare/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So all business with over 50 employees should just close up shop.

It ain't even small businesses. I work for a company that has shops in 40+ states. They aren't hiring full time anymore and are cutting hours left and right.

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I had a young guy in my office telling me that BHO-Care was free

This should help get Harry Reid a minority position in the Senate

ObamaCare to trigger health insurance cancellation notices
fox news ^ | 5/30/2013 | fox news


New health insurance rules under ObamaCare could lead to a host of personal insurance plans being canceled as early as this fall, a scenario expected to cause consumer confusion.

Under the federal overhaul, those policies that cannot meet new insurance plan standards may be discontinued. This means individuals, and some small businesses, that rely on those plans will have to find new ones.


(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

"If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. BHO

Liar

ASUG8 wrote:Let's see what happens when Obamacare is enacted. Small businesses will have employees working 29.5 hrs/week so they can stay in business and avoid having to provide exorbitant health insurance costs.

I'm not sure it's 30 hours across the board.

All of our part timers were cut to 26 hours because 30 wasn't our company's number...it was 27

clenz wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:Let's see what happens when Obamacare is enacted. Small businesses will have employees working 29.5 hrs/week so they can stay in business and avoid having to provide exorbitant health insurance costs.

I'm not sure it's 30 hours across the board.

All of our part timers were cut to 26 hours because 30 wasn't our company's number...it was 27

Correct. We're at 25

MSUDuo wrote:It ain't even small businesses. I work for a company that has shops in 40+ states. They aren't hiring full time anymore and are cutting hours left and right.

Hooray for capitalism!

clenz wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:Let's see what happens when Obamacare is enacted. Small businesses will have employees working 29.5 hrs/week so they can stay in business and avoid having to provide exorbitant health insurance costs.

I'm not sure it's 30 hours across the board.

All of our part timers were cut to 26 hours because 30 wasn't our company's number...it was 27

Your company was chomping at the bit to do this. I bet they sent Mr. Barack Obama a fruit basket to thank him.

Capitalism and greed - an American tradition since 1492.

D1B wrote:

clenz wrote: I'm not sure it's 30 hours across the board.

All of our part timers were cut to 26 hours because 30 wasn't our company's number...it was 27

Your company was chomping at the bit to do this. I bet they sent Mr. Barack Obama a fruit basket to thank him.

Capitalism and greed - an American tradition since 1492.

If he works for an insurance company, then they certainly did. The insurance companies are the biggest winners with the ACA. Kudos to Commander Obama, the nation's insurance companies have really been struggling.

D1B wrote:

clenz wrote: I'm not sure it's 30 hours across the board.

All of our part timers were cut to 26 hours because 30 wasn't our company's number...it was 27

Your company was chomping at the bit to do this. I bet they sent Mr. Barack Obama a fruit basket to thank him.

Capitalism and greed - an American tradition since 1492.

This is like global warming to you. No matter which way companies respond, you've got a spin...

Just out yesterday:

"Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare To Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums By 64-146%

.....................Obamacare to double individual-market premiums

If you’re a 25 year old male non-smoker, buying insurance for yourself, the cheapest plan on Obamacare’s exchanges is the catastrophic plan, which costs an average of $184 a month. (By “average,” I mean the median monthly premium across California’s 19 insurance rating regions.)

The next cheapest plan, the “bronze” comprehensive plan, costs $205 a month. But in 2013, on eHealthInsurance.com (NASDAQ:EHTH), the median cost of the five cheapest plans was only $92.

In other words, for the typical 25-year-old male non-smoking Californian, Obamacare will drive premiums up by between 100 and 123 percent.

Under Obamacare, only people under the age of 30 can participate in the slightly cheaper catastrophic plan. So if you’re 40, your cheapest option is the bronze plan. In California, the median price of a bronze plan for a 40-year-old male non-smoker will be $261.

But on eHealthInsurance, the median cost of the five cheapest plans was $121. That is, Obamacare will increase individual-market premiums by an average of 116 percent.

For both 25-year-olds and 40-year-olds, then, Californians under Obamacare who buy insurance for themselves will see their insurance premiums double............................."



http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... by-64-146/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And this is going to happen in state after state after state. Many of these people are just going to pay the penalty, which is going to be FAR less, and just sign up for insurance when/if they get sick. The insurance companies can't deny for pre exisiting conditions, which is going to cause an upward death spiral in rate hikes. Yet you have stupid libs on here like Doosh1Bag who actually think Obamacare isn't going to be an unmitigated disaster.....

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote:
Your company was chomping at the bit to do this. I bet they sent Mr. Barack Obama a fruit basket to thank him.

Capitalism and greed - an American tradition since 1492.

This is like global warming to you. No matter which way companies respond, you've got a spin...

I'm right, all the time.

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
This is like global warming to you. No matter which way companies respond, you've got a spin...

I'm left, all the time.

FIFY

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
This is like global warming to you. No matter which way companies respond, you've got a spin...

I'm an asshole all the time.

FIFY

andy7171 wrote:

D1B wrote:

I'm an asshole all the time.

FIFY

Fucking clown. Aint there a lax or a "jugglin 24 kids' athletics schedules thread you need to be at?

D1B wrote:

andy7171 wrote: FIFY

Fucking clown. Aint there a lax or a "jugglin 24 kids' athletics schedules thread you need to be at?

You're proving my point.

andy7171 wrote:

D1B wrote:

Fucking clown. Aint there a lax or a "jugglin 24 kids' athletics schedules thread you need to be at?

You're proving my point.

You love me. Receiving my venemous barbs titillates you and engenders much love for me.

ASUG8 wrote:

D1B wrote:

I'm left, all the time.

FIFY

IIRC he loves Scott Walker.

as a business owner that has 20 employees, I have been very focused on the costs involved for health insurance. We regularly have 15-25% annual price increases. The exchanges have been officially punted for year. The California coverage floating in the media has a $5000 deductible before coverage kicks in, for more than we currently pay with Kaiser (currently effective $1000 deductible).

Problem is that no one can tell me what the insurance costs will be next year. Taxes going up, regulation going up, and a big unknown for medical insurance does not make it very excited about hiring that next person. I, like many of my compatriots are looking at automation, outsourcing, etc.

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Trapped in CA wrote:as a business owner that has 20 employees, I have been very focused on the costs involved for health insurance. We regularly have 15-25% annual price increases. The exchanges have been officially punted for year. The California coverage floating in the media has a $5000 deductible before coverage kicks in, for more than we currently pay with Kaiser (currently effective $1000 deductible).

Problem is that no one can tell me what the insurance costs will be next year. Taxes going up, regulation going up, and a big unknown for medical insurance does not make it very excited about hiring that next person. I, like many of my compatriots are looking at automation, outsourcing, etc.

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Health insurance should not be for profit and should not be the responsibility of business owners.

kalm wrote:

Trapped in CA wrote:as a business owner that has 20 employees, I have been very focused on the costs involved for health insurance. We regularly have 15-25% annual price increases. The exchanges have been officially punted for year. The California coverage floating in the media has a $5000 deductible before coverage kicks in, for more than we currently pay with Kaiser (currently effective $1000 deductible).

Problem is that no one can tell me what the insurance costs will be next year. Taxes going up, regulation going up, and a big unknown for medical insurance does not make it very excited about hiring that next person. I, like many of my compatriots are looking at automation, outsourcing, etc.

sent from my NSA monitored Samsung Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk for one percenters

Health insurance should not be for profit and should not be the responsibility of business owners.

Agreed.... ACA without single payer is a dead end.