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"From the state that brought you the nation’s first ban on climate science comes another legislative gem: a bill that would prohibit automakers from selling their cars in the state.

The proposal, which the Raleigh News & Observer reports was unanimously approved by the state’s Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday, would apply to all car manufacturers, but the intended target is clear. It’s aimed at Tesla, the only U.S. automaker whose business model relies on selling cars directly to consumers, rather than through a network of third-party dealerships.

The bill is being pushed by the North Carolina Automobile Dealers Association, a trade group representing the state’s franchised dealerships. Its sponsor is state Sen. Tom Apodaca, a Republican from Henderson, who has said the goal is to prevent unfair competition between manufacturers and dealers. What makes it “unfair competition” as opposed to plain-old “competition”—something Republicans are typically inclined to favor—is not entirely clear. After all, North Carolina doesn’t seem to have a problem with Apple selling its computers online or via its own Apple Stores."

"In its current form, North Carolina’s bill would be the harshest of a handful of anti-Tesla regulations around the country. In Texas, the company is fighting a law under which the employees of its “showroom” in Austin are not allowed to sell any vehicles, offer test drives, or even tell customers how much the car costs. But at least Texas still lets people buy the car online, which North Carolina’s law would prohibit."

Unbelievable.

Cluck U wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense ... most_viral

"From the state that brought you the nation’s first ban on climate science comes another legislative gem: a bill that would prohibit automakers from selling their cars in the state.

The proposal, which the Raleigh News & Observer reports was unanimously approved by the state’s Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday, would apply to all car manufacturers, but the intended target is clear. It’s aimed at Tesla, the only U.S. automaker whose business model relies on selling cars directly to consumers, rather than through a network of third-party dealerships.

The bill is being pushed by the North Carolina Automobile Dealers Association, a trade group representing the state’s franchised dealerships. Its sponsor is state Sen. Tom Apodaca, a Republican from Henderson, who has said the goal is to prevent unfair competition between manufacturers and dealers. What makes it “unfair competition” as opposed to plain-old “competition”—something Republicans are typically inclined to favor—is not entirely clear. After all, North Carolina doesn’t seem to have a problem with Apple selling its computers online or via its own Apple Stores."

"In its current form, North Carolina’s bill would be the harshest of a handful of anti-Tesla regulations around the country. In Texas, the company is fighting a law under which the employees of its “showroom” in Austin are not allowed to sell any vehicles, offer test drives, or even tell customers how much the car costs. But at least Texas still lets people buy the car online, which North Carolina’s law would prohibit."

Unbelievable.

Agreed. Our state is a wonderful place, but the collection of individuals in Raleigh has been a black eye for generations.

The car has an $87K base price. I'm not sure it's really going to have that much of an impact, but I agree that it's tough to follow the logic of the representative from Henneson (that's how they pronounce it).

Daewoo tried to sell cars in the US without dealers in the 1990s. Unfortunately, they ran into financial troubles in other ventures and eventually sold their automobile division to GM.

Car dealers have always had a bad reputation...now they are trying to stop (or get a piece of) Tasla's success.

Cluck U wrote:Daewoo tried to sell cars in the US without dealers in the 1990s. Unfortunately, they ran into financial troubles in other ventures and eventually sold their automobile division to GM.

Car dealers have always had a bad reputation...now they are trying to stop (or get a piece of) Tasla's success.

Agreed. This is downright ridiculous. It's painfully obvious that they elected officials don't care about a manufacturer-dealership relationship. The lobby group got their way.

So let's recap.

Republicans don't want to be told they have to buy health insurance but they'll tell you how you can and can't buy a car.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

Cluck U wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense ... most_viral

"From the state that brought you the nation’s first ban on climate science comes another legislative gem: a bill that would prohibit automakers from selling their cars in the state.

The proposal, which the Raleigh News & Observer reports was unanimously approved by the state’s Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday, would apply to all car manufacturers, but the intended target is clear. It’s aimed at Tesla, the only U.S. automaker whose business model relies on selling cars directly to consumers, rather than through a network of third-party dealerships.

The bill is being pushed by the North Carolina Automobile Dealers Association, a trade group representing the state’s franchised dealerships. Its sponsor is state Sen. Tom Apodaca, a Republican from Henderson, who has said the goal is to prevent unfair competition between manufacturers and dealers. What makes it “unfair competition” as opposed to plain-old “competition”—something Republicans are typically inclined to favor—is not entirely clear. After all, North Carolina doesn’t seem to have a problem with Apple selling its computers online or via its own Apple Stores."

"In its current form, North Carolina’s bill would be the harshest of a handful of anti-Tesla regulations around the country. In Texas, the company is fighting a law under which the employees of its “showroom” in Austin are not allowed to sell any vehicles, offer test drives, or even tell customers how much the car costs. But at least Texas still lets people buy the car online, which North Carolina’s law would prohibit."

Unbelievable.

Agreed. Our state is a wonderful place, but the collection of individuals in Raleigh has been a black eye for generations.

Same here but include those in D.C.

Ibanez wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:
Agreed. Our state is a wonderful place, but the collection of individuals in Raleigh has been a black eye for generations.

Same here but include those in D.C.

Minus the "wonderful place" part.

Gawdamm nanny state conks!

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Same here but include those in D.C.

Minus the "wonderful place" part.

South Carolina is a gorgeous, wonderful state. Sure, we have some loonies but what state doesn't?

I thought this was a new option on the rate the rock band threads



I also thought it was a pretty good option

As jon would say, and I have no doubt he would agree with me, this is nothing but faux outrage.

This situation is no different than a "closed shop" requirement that some states require.

Baldy wrote:As jon would say, and I have no doubt he would agree with me, this is nothing but faux outrage.

This situation is no different than a "closed shop" requirement that some states require.

Not exactly. One deals with producers who add value to a product and one deals with a parasitic middleman.

As is typical of conks they support the parasitic middlemen who are the backbone of their party. Auto dealers, insurance salesmen, bankers.....those who take their cut off the top and add nothing of value. Fvcking parasite conk motherfvckers.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Same here but include those in D.C.

Minus the "wonderful place" part.

Fuck you Jizzbucket.

death dealer wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Minus the "wonderful place" part.

Fuck you Jizzbucket.

Honestly, if I had to live somewhere in the south, I would probably choose Chucktown...or maybe Asheville.

ASUG8 wrote:The car has an $87K base price. I'm not sure it's really going to have that much of an impact, but I agree that it's tough to follow the logic of the representative from Henneson (that's how they pronounce it).

First quarter US sales in the large luxury market segment:

Tesla Model S: 4,750

Audi A8: 1,462

BMW 7-Series: 2,338

Mercedes-Benz S Class: 3,077

houndawg wrote:

Baldy wrote:As jon would say, and I have no doubt he would agree with me, this is nothing but faux outrage.

This situation is no different than a "closed shop" requirement that some states require.

Not exactly. One deals with producers who add value to a product and one deals with a parasitic middleman.

As is typical of conks they support the parasitic middlemen who are the backbone of their party. Auto dealers, insurance salesmen, bankers.....those who take their cut off the top and add nothing of value. Fvcking parasite conk motherfvckers.

Parasites...good description of unions. Get paid for 8 hours while only doing 4 hours of half ass work that could easily get done in 2 hours. And people wonder why Detroit is such a shit hole.

Baldy wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Not exactly. One deals with producers who add value to a product and one deals with a parasitic middleman.

As is typical of conks they support the parasitic middlemen who are the backbone of their party. Auto dealers, insurance salesmen, bankers.....those who take their cut off the top and add nothing of value. Fvcking parasite conk motherfvckers.

Parasites...good description of unions. Get paid for 8 hours while only doing 4 hours of half ass work that could easily get done in 2 hours. And people wonder why Detroit is such a shit hole.

You take that back!! Union workers are the back bone of this great nation!!!

Grizalltheway wrote:

death dealer wrote: Fuck you Jizzbucket.

Honestly, if I had to live somewhere in the south, I would probably choose Chucktown...or maybe Asheville.

I hate when people call it Chucktown. You can't go wrong with Charleston, Savannah and Asheville. In fact, many Charlestonians still have summer homes in Asheville.

Ibanez wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:

Honestly, if I had to live somewhere in the south, I would probably choose Chucktown...or maybe Asheville.

I hate when people call it Chucktown. You can't go wrong with Charleston, Savannah and Asheville. In fact, many Charlestonians still have summer homes in Asheville.

Well, I got it from this site, quite possibly from YOU.

Ibanez wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:

Honestly, if I had to live somewhere in the south, I would probably choose Chucktown...or maybe Asheville.

I hate when people call it Chucktown. You can't go wrong with Charleston, Savannah and Asheville. In fact, many Charlestonians still have summer homes in Asheville.

If you love hippies, alternate lifestyles, and patchulli you'll love Asheville.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote: I hate when people call it Chucktown. You can't go wrong with Charleston, Savannah and Asheville. In fact, many Charlestonians still have summer homes in Asheville.

Well, I got it from this site, quite possibly from YOU.

God I hope not. It's a bad as people saying "Cakalaki."

Baldy wrote:As jon would say, and I have no doubt he would agree with me, this is nothing but faux outrage.

This situation is no different than a "closed shop" requirement that some states require.

Who needs a free market anyway, amirite?

Baldy wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Not exactly. One deals with producers who add value to a product and one deals with a parasitic middleman.

As is typical of conks they support the parasitic middlemen who are the backbone of their party. Auto dealers, insurance salesmen, bankers.....those who take their cut off the top and add nothing of value. Fvcking parasite conk motherfvckers.

Parasites...good description of unions. Get paid for 8 hours while only doing 4 hours of half ass work that could easily get done in 2 hours. And people wonder why Detroit is such a **** hole.

Irrelevant.

90% of labor force is non-union.


Weak shit, your unhairyness.

houndawg wrote:

Baldy wrote: Parasites...good description of unions. Get paid for 8 hours while only doing 4 hours of half ass work that could easily get done in 2 hours. And people wonder why Detroit is such a **** hole.

Irrelevant.

90% of labor force is non-union.


Weak shit, your unhairyness.

At least you didn't try to deny it.

Even old ass union fucks know it's the truth.

Baldy wrote:

houndawg wrote:

Irrelevant.

90% of labor force is non-union.


Weak ****, your unhairyness.

At least you didn't try to deny it.

Even old ass union **** know it's the truth.

13 hours later and that's all you got? You're getting soft.