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Whether the story at http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04 ... al-rights/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; gives a completely accurate impression or not, I think the picture says it all with respect to a really big problem with the current population of the United States. Far too large a proportion, in fact probably a solid majority, is composed of people who think like this:

I am sure there are fucking douchebags here that support this type of schooling...

grizzaholic wrote:I am sure there are fucking douchebags here that support this type of schooling...

I know there are people on here who support that way of thinking. 'Anything goes in the war on terror'

BlueHen86 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:I am sure there are fucking douchebags here that support this type of schooling...

I know there are people on here who support that way of thinking. 'Anything goes in the war on terror'

Fuck me. I am sure I am all about giving up all of my rights
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You will be taking my rights from my hands when I am dead!

grizzaholic wrote:I am sure there are **** douchebags here that support this type of schooling...

Maybe they need to be reminded of some other parts of the Bill of Rights and other constitutional amendments that might be at risk in order to keep them safe and secure:
1st - Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, right to assemble
4th - Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants
5th- Right to due process and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy
6th - Right to a fair and speedy public trial by jury
13th - Abolishes slavery and involuntary servitude
15th - Prohibits the denial of suffrage based on race, color, or previous condition of servitude
19th - Establishes women's suffrage

I'm not usually not one for a slippery slope argument but when it comes to the Constitution and its amendments, nullifying any one amendment scares the snot out of me

UNI88 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:I am sure there are **** douchebags here that support this type of schooling...

Maybe they need to be reminded of some other parts of the Bill of Rights and other constitutional amendments that might be at risk in order to keep them safe and secure:
1st - Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, right to assemble
4th - Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants
5th- Right to due process and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy
6th - Right to a fair and speedy public trial by jury
13th - Abolishes slavery and involuntary servitude
15th - Prohibits the denial of suffrage based on race, color, or previous condition of servitude
19th - Establishes women's suffrage

I'm not usually not one for a slippery slope argument but when it comes to the Constitution and its amendments, nullifying any one amendment scares the snot out of me

Anwar Alwaki and his kid were executed without due process. Not much of a story...

In the case of gun control, it's about giving up constitutional rights to feel safer, not be safer.

kalm wrote:

UNI88 wrote:
Maybe they need to be reminded of some other parts of the Bill of Rights and other constitutional amendments that might be at risk in order to keep them safe and secure:
1st - Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, right to assemble
4th - Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants
5th- Right to due process and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy
6th - Right to a fair and speedy public trial by jury
13th - Abolishes slavery and involuntary servitude
15th - Prohibits the denial of suffrage based on race, color, or previous condition of servitude
19th - Establishes women's suffrage

I'm not usually not one for a slippery slope argument but when it comes to the Constitution and its amendments, nullifying any one amendment scares the snot out of me

Anwar Alwaki and his kid were executed without due process. Not much of a story...

Like I said: 'anything goes in the war on terror'.

BlueHen86 wrote:

kalm wrote:
Anwar Alwaki and his kid were executed without due process. Not much of a story...

Like I said: 'anything goes in the war on terror'.

Yep...and people will rail on ad nauseum about the 2nd amendment and remain silent about the others.

kalm wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
Like I said: 'anything goes in the war on terror'.

Yep...and people will rail on ad nauseum about the 2nd amendment and remain silent about the others.

What people?

CitadelGrad wrote:

kalm wrote:
Yep...and people will rail on ad nauseum about the 2nd amendment and remain silent about the others.

What people?

Many people.

Yep...and people will rail on ad nauseum about the 2nd amendment and remain silent about the others.

I think it goes both ways. I think there are people who vehemently object to the erosion of Constitutional Rights through things like pushing the envelope with respect to the latitude granted to law enforcement, for example, while at the same time they are at the front of the parade in terms of pecking away at the right to keep and bear arms. And there are people who passionately defend the right to keep and bear arms while fully supporting granting more latitude to police. Both groups support giving government more control, where they support that control, in the name of "keeping us safe."

Either way I think that the majority of the people are way too far over on the "keep us safe and secure" side of the scale. Pretty much all one has to say in support of government control and/or intrusion is "it will save lives" and there's an automatic constituency of support. Very few people are willing to stand up and say that it shouldn't be done whether it will save lives or not; that "saving lives" and/or minimizing risk is not the whole point of existence.