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BISMARCK, N.D. — North Dakota lawmakers moved Friday to outlaw abortion in the state by passing a resolution defining life as starting at conception.

The measure, which has to be approved by voters, is one of a series of anti-abortion resolutions the Republican-controlled Legislature has passed this year despite critics' insistence that they are unconstitutional and violate the U.S. Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion until a fetus is considered viable, which is usually at 22 to 24 weeks.

The North Dakota House approved the measure 57-35 Friday, sending it to voters, likely in November 2014. The Senate approved it last month.

dbackjon wrote:Again,

No one is PRO-abortion. People are ANTI-Forced Birth.

clenz wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Again,

No one is PRO-abortion. People are ANTI-Forced Birth.

AKA

Pro-killing an infant

clenz wrote: AKA

Pro-killing an infant

Via LifeNews:

A writer from the Wisconsin State Journal shadowed an abortionist as he performed abortions in his clinic. He says:

“. . . Christensen performed two abortions that day on women who were at the end of the first trimester. In each case, the tissue was suctioned into a large glass jar, filling the bottom half inch.
Christensen later poured it into a straining basin and examined it “to make sure we removed all of it.”
At one point, he picked up a tiny foot and placed it against a ruler. “Thirteen millimeters,” he announced, “which is consistent with 12 weeks of actual pregnancy.”

Later he held a tiny head. Its brain tissue will be sent to the National Institutes of Health for research on brain tumors.”

B.D. Colen, a reporter for Newsday, witnessed a second-trimester D&E abortion. A D&E is the standard second-trimester abortion and is performed over 300 times a day:

“. . . After dilating, or opening, the cervix, the physician used a curette, the gynecological version of a sharpened spoon, to cut the fetus into pieces he would then remove with forceps. A large petri dish sat on an instrument stand to the right of the girl’s feet, and most of the red material in the dish was unrecognizable. But from time to time during the procedure the physician would tap his forceps on the edge of the dish – and into the muck would drop a foot, or a hand, or a piece of rib cage[.]
Having seen what I saw, I cannot for a moment abide the disingenuousness of those who argue that a fetus is not human, or those who convince themselves that abortion is not killing[.]”

Bronco wrote:

Via LifeNews:

A writer from the Wisconsin State Journal shadowed an abortionist as he performed abortions in his clinic. He says:

“. . . Christensen performed two abortions that day on women who were at the end of the first trimester. In each case, the tissue was suctioned into a large glass jar, filling the bottom half inch.
Christensen later poured it into a straining basin and examined it “to make sure we removed all of it.”
At one point, he picked up a tiny foot and placed it against a ruler. “Thirteen millimeters,” he announced, “which is consistent with 12 weeks of actual pregnancy.”

Later he held a tiny head. Its brain tissue will be sent to the National Institutes of Health for research on brain tumors.”

B.D. Colen, a reporter for Newsday, witnessed a second-trimester D&E abortion. A D&E is the standard second-trimester abortion and is performed over 300 times a day:

“. . . After dilating, or opening, the cervix, the physician used a curette, the gynecological version of a sharpened spoon, to cut the fetus into pieces he would then remove with forceps. A large petri dish sat on an instrument stand to the right of the girl’s feet, and most of the red material in the dish was unrecognizable. But from time to time during the procedure the physician would tap his forceps on the edge of the dish – and into the muck would drop a foot, or a hand, or a piece of rib cage[.]
Having seen what I saw, I cannot for a moment abide the disingenuousness of those who argue that a fetus is not human, or those who convince themselves that abortion is not killing[.]”

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dbackjon wrote:Again,

No one is PRO-abortion. People are ANTI-Forced Birth.

dbackjon wrote:Again,

No one is PRO-abortion. People are ANTI-Forced Birth.

biobengal wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Again,

No one is PRO-abortion. People are ANTI-Forced Birth.

THIS ^

A fetus doesn't have rights over another person or even rights which are typically ascribed to adults, children and babies. Hence, it's illegal (in many states) to smoke or consume alcohol with children in a car, but not illegal for a pregnant woman to smoke or drink, as it should be.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

clenz wrote: AKA

Pro-killing an infant

A fetus, particularly one before the 22nd week, is not a infant.

89Hen wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:


A fetus, particularly one before the 22nd week, is not a infant.

You seriously just typed that?

Skjellyfetti wrote:

89Hen wrote: You seriously just typed that?

Yes.

This measure seeks to ban abortions, even before the fetus is viable.

Clenz called people that are pro-choice -- "pro-killing an infant."

A fetus is not an infant - particularly a fetus before the 22-week mark that doesn't have lungs, doesn't have a nervous system, etc.

What's so hard to grasp?

An infant is a baby who has been born until it becomes a toddler. A fetus is not a fucking infant.

DSUrocks07 wrote:The question that gets conveniently ignored...can a 12 week fetus survive outside the womb?

89Hen wrote:

biobengal wrote:
THIS ^

A fetus doesn't have rights over another person or even rights which are typically ascribed to adults, children and babies. Hence, it's illegal (in many states) to smoke or consume alcohol with children in a car, but not illegal for a pregnant woman to smoke or drink, as it should be.

Then why can a person be tried for double murder if they kill a pregnant woman?

DSUrocks07 wrote:The question that gets conveniently ignored...can a 12 week fetus survive outside the womb?

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Skjellyfetti wrote:

clenz wrote: AKA

Pro-killing an infant

A fetus, particularly one before the 22nd week, is not a infant.

Then why can a person be tried for double murder if they kill a pregnant woman?

Baldy wrote:If you have a problem with it, don't fucking live in North Dakota.

Problem solved.