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SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:51 am
by ASUG8
GREENVILLE — A public hearing on legislation that would allow South Carolina gun owners to openly carry their weapons in public triggered a heated debate Monday night.

Applause rippled through the audience of about 300 people in the Greenville County Council chambers after Boiling Springs attorney Robert Merting said, “We should allow the innocent to defend themselves without permission, without registration, without being treated like a common criminal,”

The crowd booed minutes later when Melinda Hoffman told members of a South Carolina Senate subcommittee conducting Monday night’s hearing that “offensive weapons don’t belong in public.”
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Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:56 am
by grizzaholic
Why wouldn't it be legal?

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:03 am
by ASUG8
Some are saying that as it's currently written it would negate all CWP's in the state and therefore the reciprocity agreements SC has with other states on their CWP's. Here are the states where SC currently has these agreements:

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:21 pm
by Grizalltheway
ASUG8 wrote:Some are saying that as it's currently written it would negate all CWP's in the state and therefore the reciprocity agreements SC has with other states on their CWP's. Here are the states where SC currently has these agreements:

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
What do you have against Montana? :ohno:

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 pm
by grizzaholic
Grizalltheway wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:Some are saying that as it's currently written it would negate all CWP's in the state and therefore the reciprocity agreements SC has with other states on their CWP's. Here are the states where SC currently has these agreements:

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
What do you have against Montana? :ohno:
No kidding. We kicked GATW out and sent him to Spokompton with SE.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:24 pm
by ASUG8
Grizalltheway wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:Some are saying that as it's currently written it would negate all CWP's in the state and therefore the reciprocity agreements SC has with other states on their CWP's. Here are the states where SC currently has these agreements:

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
What do you have against Montana? :ohno:
Nothing.....MT is already lawless. ;)

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:26 pm
by Grizalltheway
grizzaholic wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
What do you have against Montana? :ohno:
No kidding. We kicked GATW out and sent him to Spokompton with SE.
It ain't easy living in exile. :(

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:33 pm
by Pwns
With so much irrational gunphobia in this country I don't think I'd want to carry in public unless it's concealed.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:34 pm
by grizzaholic
Pwns wrote:With so much irrational gunphobia in this country I don't think I'd want to carry in public unless it's concealed.
No kidding. I carry a lot and no one is the wiser. I am sure you, me, anyone pass by many many people each day that are carrying.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:38 pm
by ASUG8
Pwns wrote:With so much irrational gunphobia in this country I don't think I'd want to carry in public unless it's concealed.
I agree - I can see both sides on this one, but don't want to see our Main St. become the OK Corral. I don't think it will go through, but it demonstrates how freaked out everyone is that our rights are possibly being trampled upon.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:24 pm
by Wedgebuster
A man with a violin asked a NYC cabby how to get to Carnage Hall, the driver replied "practice, practice, practice."

If'n I was to open carry, I'd wanna be more like Doc Holiday, and much less like Ike Clanton.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmrLNXv2jA[/youtube]

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:01 pm
by CID1990
To be honest, my favorite off duty weapon was/is a featherlight Smith .38 snub. It is easier to just stick it in my britches pocket than to wear it in some goofy pancake holster on my belt.


Sent from the center of the universe.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:11 pm
by houndawg
Pwns wrote:With so much irrational gunphobia in this country I don't think I'd want to carry in public unless it's concealed.
:nod:

He was going for his gun, officer, and there was murder in his eye, so I took him out. Where do I collect my reward money?

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:17 pm
by LeadBolt
houndawg wrote:
Pwns wrote:With so much irrational gunphobia in this country I don't think I'd want to carry in public unless it's concealed.
:nod:

He was going for his gun, officer, and there was murder in his eye, so I took him out. Where do I collect my reward money?
Took him out with #8 birdshot, no doubt... ;)

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:46 pm
by houndawg
LeadBolt wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:nod:

He was going for his gun, officer, and there was murder in his eye, so I took him out. Where do I collect my reward money?
Took him out with #8 birdshot, no doubt... ;)
:thumb: there was no collateral damage..

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:25 pm
by JohnStOnge
I went to a Conferece in Savannah, GA, last year and had the opportunity to see a guy I consider perhaps my most influential and helpful mentor. A very bright guy with a Ph.D. in estuarine ecology and a Masters in Statistics from the University of Georgia Marine Institute at Sapelo Island. Back when I worked with him he was also a martial arts teacher. Back then he used to kind of look down on people who "had" to carry guns. But when I saw him 20+ years later he was walking around Savannah with a pistol on his hip. Seriously. We're walking around downtown Savannah and he's wearing a holster with a pistol in it in plain view.

It was interesting to me since he was always someone who believed in being able to defend himself. Apparently he'd evolved from martial arts to firepower.

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:31 pm
by grizzaholic
JohnStOnge wrote:I went to a Conferece in Savannah, GA, last year and had the opportunity to see a guy I consider perhaps my most influential and helpful mentor. A very bright guy with a Ph.D. in estuarine ecology and a Masters in Statistics from the University of Georgia Marine Institute at Sapelo Island. Back when I worked with him he was also a martial arts teacher. Back then he used to kind of look down on people who "had" to carry guns. But when I saw him 20+ years later he was walking around Savannah with a pistol on his hip. Seriously. We're walking around downtown Savannah and he's wearing a holster with a pistol in it in plain view.

It was interesting to me since he was always someone who believed in being able to defend himself. Apparently he'd evolved from martial arts to firepower.
I never understood why folks get uneasy when around someone with a pistol in plain view :roll:

Re: SC public hearings on open carry of firearms

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:49 pm
by JohnStOnge
I never understood why folks get uneasy when around someone with a pistol in plain view
I was not uneasy but I was surprised because when I worked with him he felt that a gun was unecessary. What's interesting, though, is that he subscribed to a martial arts philosophy whereby if you had to use your training you killed the adversary. You tried to be peaceful and de-fuse the situation but if you had to go into martial arts action you were supposed to go for the kill.

So I guess it would probably not be a good idea to mess with him when he's got a gun.