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George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:07 pm
by kalm
And so is David Vitter. Are conks starting to come around to the ideals of populism and breaking up entrenched power?
By breaking up the biggest banks, conservatives will not be putting asunder what the free market has joined together. Government nurtured these behemoths by weaving an improvident safety net and by practicing crony capitalism. Dismantling them would be a blow against government that has become too big not to fail. Aux barricades!
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Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:23 pm
by JohnStOnge
Why not just eliminate the "too big to fail" concept?
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:30 pm
by Ivytalk
No dispute here. I've opposed TBTF from the beginning.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:24 pm
by Pwns
JohnStOnge wrote:Why not just eliminate the "too big to fail" concept?
Because some of the megabanks really
are too big to fail.
George Will is spot on. There is nothing antithetical to conservatism in breaking these big banks apart. Matter of fact, you could certainly argue that our banking system itself is largely antithetical to both conservatism and liberalism.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:39 pm
by kalm
Pwns wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:Why not just eliminate the "too big to fail" concept?
Because some of the megabanks really
are too big to fail.
George Will is spot on. There is nothing antithetical to conservatism in breaking these big banks apart. Matter of fact, you could certainly argue that our banking system itself is largely antithetical to both conservatism and liberalism.
Ding, ding, ding!
And the fact it's not a part of either party's platform is telling.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:44 am
by Baldy
I think most common sense people are against "entrenched power".
The only major exceptions are Obama supporters, the big banks, and anyone who believes in a single payer healthcare system.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:48 am
by Skjellyfetti
Baldy wrote:I think most common sense people are against "entrenched power".
The only major exceptions are Obama supporters, the big banks, and anyone who believes in a single payer healthcare system.
As soon as a Republican is back in the White House... you'll be back in favor of "entrenched power."
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:01 pm
by Baldy
Skjellyfetti wrote:Baldy wrote:I think most common sense people are against "entrenched power".
The only major exceptions are Obama supporters, the big banks, and anyone who believes in a single payer healthcare system.
As soon as a Republican is back in the White House... you'll be back in favor of "entrenched power."
"back in favor"?
Better yet, show me an example where I was in favor of it.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:30 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Just don't remember too many Conks complaining about the expansion of power in the executive branch under Bush and Cheney.
Maybe you were outspoken against that and I just remember incorrectly. I doubt it, though.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:39 pm
by SDHornet
Skjellyfetti wrote:Just don't remember too many Conks complaining about the expansion of power in the executive branch under Bush and Cheney.
Maybe you were outspoken against that and I just remember incorrectly. I doubt it, though.
It didn't become an issue until "the other guy" was doing it.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:22 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Just don't remember too many Conks complaining about the expansion of power in the executive branch under Bush and Cheney.
Maybe you were outspoken against that and I just remember incorrectly. I doubt it, though.
Really? You don't remember conks railing against the Patriot Act? Railing against the HLS Dept? You have selective memory, analjelly.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:40 pm
by Baldy
AZGrizFan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:Just don't remember too many Conks complaining about the expansion of power in the executive branch under Bush and Cheney.
Maybe you were outspoken against that and I just remember incorrectly. I doubt it, though.
Really? You don't remember conks railing against the Patriot Act? Railing against the HLS Dept? You have selective memory, analjelly.
...or the prescription drug program, NCLB, the highway bill, etc. Selective memory indeed.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:54 pm
by AZGrizFan
Baldy wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Really? You don't remember conks railing against the Patriot Act? Railing against the HLS Dept? You have selective memory, analjelly.
...or the prescription drug program, NCLB, the highway bill, etc. Selective memory indeed.
Yeah. Expansion of power. That's why we want the DOE, EPA, HLS, IRS, and several other departments completely abolished.
Re: George Will Seeing the Light...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:06 pm
by GannonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Just don't remember too many Conks complaining about the expansion of power in the executive branch under Bush and Cheney.
Maybe you were outspoken against that and I just remember incorrectly. I doubt it, though.
Where did the complaint about expansion of executive power during the Bush presidency come into the discussion about TBTF? I don't see the connection.