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Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:36 am
by BDKJMU
"...large capacity magazine regulation needs to sharply curtail their availability
to include restrictions on importation, manufacture, sale, and possession. An exemption for previously
owned magazines would nearly eliminate any impact....."
....requiring gun registration......
.....The existing stock of assault weapons is large, undercutting the effectiveness of bans with exemptions.....
.....a complete elimination of assault weapons would not have a large impact on gun homicides......
......Since assault weapons are not a major contributor to US gun homicide and the existing stock of guns is
large, an assault weapon ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence. If coupled with a gun
buyback and no exemptions then it could be effective........"
http://static.infowars.com/2013/02/i/ge ... y-memo.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thats right- they want a forced buyback with no exceptions for guns and magazines that were previously legally purchased.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:39 am
by BDKJMU
NRA uses Justice memo to accuse Obama admin of wanting to confiscate guns
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... wanting-c/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:42 am
by BDKJMU
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:52 am
by CID1990
What they want to do is insignificant; it won't happen.
What IS significant in the memo is the admission that restrictions on assault (scary looking) weapons won't have an appreciable effect on gun homicide rates.
Sent from the center of the universe.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:14 pm
by Col Hogan
CID1990 wrote:What they want to do is insignificant; it won't happen.
What IS significant in the memo is the admission that restrictions on assault (scary looking) weapons won't have an appreciable effect on gun homicide rates.
Sent from the center of the universe.
While I agree with you on the insignificance of their desire actions right now, they still fall under the premise of "death by a thousand paper cuts"...
People paranoid about guns will never stop trying to win the ultimate prize, regardless of any study...facts do not matter, only feelings...
Now I feel like breaking out in song..,.
FEELINGS, NOTHING MORE THAT FEELINGS....
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:21 pm
by D1B
Col Hogan wrote:CID1990 wrote:What they want to do is insignificant; it won't happen.
What IS significant in the memo is the admission that restrictions on assault (scary looking) weapons won't have an appreciable effect on gun homicide rates.
Sent from the center of the universe.
While I agree with you on the insignificance of their desire actions right now, they still fall under the premise of "death by a thousand paper cuts"...
People paranoid about guns will never stop trying to win the ultimate prize, regardless of any study...facts do not matter, only feelings...
Now I feel like breaking out in song..,.
FEELINGS, NOTHING MORE THAT FEELINGS....
Say goodbye to your killing machines, Col.
Gun conks.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:37 pm
by Col Hogan
D1B wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
While I agree with you on the insignificance of their desire actions right now, they still fall under the premise of "death by a thousand paper cuts"...
People paranoid about guns will never stop trying to win the ultimate prize, regardless of any study...facts do not matter, only feelings...
Now I feel like breaking out in song..,.
FEELINGS, NOTHING MORE THAT FEELINGS....
Say goodbye to your killing machines, Col.
Gun conks.
Care to place a wager on that???
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:02 pm
by D1B
Col Hogan wrote:D1B wrote:
Say goodbye to your killing machines, Col.
Gun conks.
Care to place a wager on that???
Oh, it's gonna take a while. We'll both be long gone - me to heaven and you to hell. But it will happen.
Future kids will be smoking bud out of bongs made from your guns.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:07 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Col Hogan wrote:D1B wrote:
Say goodbye to your killing machines, Col.
Gun conks.
Care to place a wager on that???
Don't bother.
Col. Hogan doesn't pay up.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:14 pm
by Col Hogan
D1B wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Care to place a wager on that???
Oh, it's gonna take a while. We'll both be long gone - me to heaven and you to hell. But it will happen.
Future kids will be smoking bud out of bongs made from your guns.
So, when hell freezes over...
Got it...
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:37 pm
by ASUMountaineer
D1B wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
While I agree with you on the insignificance of their desire actions right now, they still fall under the premise of "death by a thousand paper cuts"...
People paranoid about guns will never stop trying to win the ultimate prize, regardless of any study...facts do not matter, only feelings...
Now I feel like breaking out in song..,.
FEELINGS, NOTHING MORE THAT FEELINGS....
Say goodbye to your killing machines, Col.
Gun conks.
It does seem to be a bit of a fruitless effort to go after assault weapons if it will not have an appreciable effect on gun homicides. It seems that the government would be better served going after regulation that would have an appreciable effect on gun homicides. After all, it's about reducing violence.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:07 pm
by CID1990
ASUMountaineer wrote:D1B wrote:
Say goodbye to your killing machines, Col.
Gun conks.
It does seem to be a bit of a fruitless effort
That would absolutely be par for the course for this president.
Sent from the center of the universe.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:46 pm
by UNI88
Skjellyfetti wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Care to place a wager on that???
Don't bother.
Col. Hogan doesn't pay up.
Yes he does, I have a UMass hat to prove it.
And did D1B just state that he was going to heaven?
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:55 pm
by Skjellyfetti
UNI88 wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
Don't bother.
Col. Hogan doesn't pay up.
Yes he does, I have a UMass hat to prove it.
He still owes me one.
And dback still owes me a NAU hat. And IvyTalk still owes me $20. Only person to every pay up on a bet on here for me was AZ.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:04 pm
by Ivytalk
Skjellyfetti wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Yes he does, I have a UMass hat to prove it.
He still owes me one.
And dback still owes me a NAU hat. And IvyTalk still owes me $20. Only person to every pay up on a bet on here for me was AZ.
Typical Donk: everybody "owes" poor JellyBelly for something.
Send me your mailing address again, Graph-Boy, and I'll put an old folded Jackson inside.
And you'd damn well better acknowledge receipt publicly, in this thread.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:09 pm
by dbackjon
Ivytalk wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
He still owes me one.
And dback still owes me a NAU hat. And IvyTalk still owes me $20. Only person to every pay up on a bet on here for me was AZ.
Typical Donk: everybody "owes" poor JellyBelly for something.
Send me your mailing address again, Graph-Boy, and I'll put an old folded Jackson inside.
And you'd damn well better acknowledge receipt publicly, in this thread.
I sent the hat to the address in Mexico you provided.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:11 pm
by Ivytalk
dbackjon wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
Typical Donk: everybody "owes" poor JellyBelly for something.
Send me your mailing address again, Graph-Boy, and I'll put an old folded Jackson inside.
And you'd damn well better acknowledge receipt publicly, in this thread.
I sent the hat to the address in Mexico you provided.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:50 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Yup, and the bad guys will just turn in their guns.
Here's a gun that wasn't turned in:
"A 4-year-old Houston boy fatally shot himself with his father's stolen handgun Sunday morning, police say.
Marquiez Deshon Pratt, 21, was asleep on the couch when his son, Jaiden, picked up the gun and shot himself in the stomach, according to a report from the Houston Police Department.
The weapon, a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol, was stolen during a burglary in 2011, according to the police report."
The officers who followed Pratt into his apartment discovered marijuana and crack cocaine along with weighing scales and other items used to sell drugs, according to the police report.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02 ... -gun?lite=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Forget banning guns...some people should not be allowed to breed.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:44 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Ivytalk wrote:
Typical Donk: everybody "owes" poor JellyBelly for something.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:19 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Skjellyfetti wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Yes he does, I have a UMass hat to prove it.
He still owes me one.
And dback still owes me a NAU hat. And IvyTalk still owes me $20. Only person to every pay up on a bet on here for me was AZ.
IvyTalk's honor restored.
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:37 pm
by Bronco
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Obama
Author Quotes Then-Professor Obama Saying, 'I Don't Believe People Should Be Able To Own Guns'
By Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.
In his new book, At the Brink, economist and author John Lott Jr., assesses the presidency of Barack Obama and recalls conversations regarding gun laws they had while working at the University of Chicago.
In Chapter Three, Mr. Lott discusses gun-control and takes the reader back to his time at the University of Chicago, where he and then-professor Barack Obama spoke on numerous occasions about guns in America.
"I don't believe people should be able to own guns," Obama told Lott one day at the University of Chicago Law School.
Lott explains that he first met Obama shortly after completing his research on concealed handgun laws and crime.
"He did not come across as a moderate who wanted to bring people together," Lott writes.
After he introduced himself to Obama, Lott suggested that they have lunch one day to discuss their views on guns. According to Lott, Obama "grimaced and turned away." That was the way many conversations with Obama ended, Lott says.
Although the Law School was famous for the openness of its faculty and friendly engagement, Lott says, "Obama...preferred silent, scowling disdain to collegiality."
President Barack Obama describes his views on guns much differently now that he is on the national stage, Lott believes, pointing to an interview on Fox News in which Obama states, "I have said consistently that I believe that the Second Amendment is an individual right."
But, Lott isn't convinced:
"Despite his assurance to Fox News that he understands the Second Amendment, it's a good bet that the positions Obama took on guns during his time at Chicago reveal his true convictions."
The chapter documents the actions that Obama has taken on guns, citing the following:
• In 1996, Obama supported a ban on handguns
• In 1998, he supported a ban on the sale of all semi-automatic guns
• In 2004, he advocated banning gun sales within five miles of a school or park, which would have shut down nearly all gun stores
Mr. Lott concludes the chapter, titled, "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered," writing, "Barack Obama is the most anti-gun president ever. That claim is based not on my own interactions with him back in the 1990's but on his own public record over many years."
He ends with a warning:
"The greatest threat is in his [Obama's] power to reshape the federal courts...Each appointment to the Supreme Court could determine whether the people are allowed to keep their guns."
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:43 pm
by Ivytalk
Skjellyfetti wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
He still owes me one.
And dback still owes me a NAU hat. And IvyTalk still owes me $20. Only person to every pay up on a bet on here for me was AZ.
IvyTalk's honor restored.
Thank you. I always pay my debts, sooner or later. I just increased the GNP of Banner Elk, NC, by 50%!
Re: Leaked DOJ memo on gun confiscation
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:13 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Ivytalk wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
IvyTalk's honor restored.
Thank you. I always pay my debts, sooner or later. I just increased the GNP of Banner Elk, NC, by 50%!
Let's see if jellybean does his part in helping our recovery by reporting his $20 windfall on his 2013 taxes.