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The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:08 pm
by Grizo406
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:52 pm
by Col Hogan
He was not abandoned...he got out four years short of earning his retirement...
He knew the rules...why does he expect something different???
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:12 pm
by SDHornet
Col Hogan wrote:He was not abandoned...he got out four years short of earning his retirement...
He knew the rules...why does he expect something different???
Because he killed bin Laden. He should get a key to the country and a statue put up somewhere in DC.
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:58 pm
by BDKJMU
Was going to start a thread on this, but Grizo beat me to it.
Read this today. LONG read- 7 page article, but a really good read.
The Shooter
http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who ... laden-0313" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:10 am
by AZGrizFan
I don't get it. If he has THAT many ailments, he should be able to get a disability pension...I saw guys with hangnails get rated a certain percentage disability for LIFE when exiting the military.
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:13 am
by BDKJMU
AZGrizFan wrote:I don't get it. If he has THAT many ailments, he should be able to get a disability pension...I saw guys with hangnails get rated a certain percentage disability for LIFE when exiting the military.
They talked about it later on in the article- 8-9 months for disability to get processed because of the backlog. Don't say what % he might get...
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:27 am
by mrklean
This happens to alot of Special Ops men. Once they get out, what can you do? But he sould have 20 then got out. But I dont know his Medical History. I hope this guy gets the help he needs.
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:37 am
by Ibanez
Col Hogan wrote:He was not abandoned...he got out four years short of earning his retirement...
He knew the rules...why does he expect something different???
Correct. He does not get the pension and perks of retirements. I can't feel pity for that. However, all vets of OEF/OIF get 5 years of benefits POST service through the VA. Outplacement is the issue here. The transition to civilian life. He has the GI Bill at his disposal as well as the pending disability income. He's not abandoned.
Veterans who served in a theater of combat operations after November 11, 1998 are eligible for an extended period of eligibility for health care for 5 years post discharge
http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/ ... embers.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:48 am
by Franks Tanks
I feel for the guy, but how did he complete the raid last year if he is so physically damaged? Wouldn't it have made sense to have him stay on for a few more years as a trainer, speaker or whatever. Something doesn't quite add up.
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:58 am
by dbackjon
Col Hogan wrote:He was not abandoned...he got out four years short of earning his retirement...
He knew the rules...why does he expect something different???
Yup
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:59 am
by CAA Flagship
I finally read this last night. Awesome read on the accounts of the mission.
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:35 pm
by Grizo406
What the Commander had to say about the
Esquire article:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02 ... snhp&pos=3
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:38 am
by houndawg
Re: The SEAL that Shot bin Laden Abandoned?
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:37 pm
by BDKJMU
CAA Flagship wrote:
I finally read this last night. Awesome read on the accounts of the mission.
Yep. The movie sounds semi fictional..
".....But when a SEAL Team 6 movie character yells, "Breacher!" for someone to blow one of the doors of the Abbottabad compound, the Shooter says loudly, "Are you fucking kidding me? Shut up!"
He explains afterward that no one would ever yell, "Breacher!" during an assault. Deadly silence is standard practice, a fist to the helmet sufficient signal for a SEAL with explosive packets to go to work.....
.....The helos turned the wrong way [toward the target], and they talked way, way too much [during the assault itself]. If someone was waiting for you, they could track your movements that way."
The tactics on the screen "sucked," he says, and "the mission in the damn movie took way too long" compared with the actual event. The stairs inside bin Laden's building were configured inaccurately. A dog in the film was a German shepherd; the real one was a Belgian Malinois who'd previously been shot in the chest and survived. And there's no talking on the choppers in real life.
There was also no whispered calling out of bin Laden as the SEALs stared up the third-floor stairwell toward his bedroom. "When Osama went down, it was chaos, people screaming. No one called his name."
"They Hollywooded it up some."......