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Gov O'Malley wants to eliminate it. Thoughts from our Mary-landers?

I think he is a pussy and should be fired for incompetency.

dbackjon wrote:Gov O'Malley wants to eliminate it. Thoughts from our Mary-landers?

I'm not a Mary-lander, though I married into a family with many Mary-landers. For what it's worth, I agree with O'Malley.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I think he is a pussy and should be fired for incompetency.

Yeah, b/c the death penalty is such a deterrent.

dbackjon wrote:Gov O'Malley wants to eliminate it. Thoughts from our Mary-landers?

I am opposed to capital punishment, so I would support the Gov on this one.

89Hen wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Gov O'Malley wants to eliminate it. Thoughts from our Mary-landers?

I am opposed to capital punishment, so I would support the Gov on this one.

Are you opposed on the grounds that it's murder, it's not a deterrent or both?

Ibanez wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I think he is a pussy and should be fired for incompetency.

Yeah, b/c the death penalty is such a deterrent.

I dont care if it deters or not.

I am done with the left letting people out of prison that 99% of the time harm other people. You guys have to wash the blood off your hands.

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Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: I am opposed to capital punishment, so I would support the Gov on this one.

Are you opposed on the grounds that it's murder, it's not a deterrent or both?

Both. BTW, I used to be a proponent of it.

89Hen wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Are you opposed on the grounds that it's murder, it's not a deterrent or both?

Both. BTW, I used to be a proponent of it.

What changed your outlook?

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Yeah, b/c the death penalty is such a deterrent.

I dont care if it deters or not.

I am done with the left letting people out of prison that 99% of the time harm other people. You guys have to wash the blood off your hands.

Not exactly sure what you mean here unless you are saying you think more crimes should carry the death penalty. I seriously doubt there are any criminals convicted of serious enough crimes to consider the death penalty that ever get out of jail.

BTW, I'm pretty far from the left and I oppose the death penalty.

Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: Both. BTW, I used to be a proponent of it.

What changed your outlook?

Compassion with age. Hope that doesn't hurt my curmudgeon status.

89Hen wrote:

Ibanez wrote: What changed your outlook?

Compassion with age. Hope that doesn't hurt my curmudgeon status.

You're so screwed....your image is tainted.

Ibanez wrote:

89Hen wrote: Compassion with age. Hope that doesn't hurt my curmudgeon status.

You're so screwed....your image is tainted.

My take is that people that commit such heinous crimes that could warrant a death penalty are mentally disturbed or deficient. They may have been raised in a horrible environment. They may have brain imbalances. They could have sustained trauma.

Now some folks would say, lots of people who are raised in a horrible environment, have brain imbalances, or sustained trauma don't go out a kill people. But everyone is different, no? Some folks think Taylor Swift is sexier than Beyonce. I just don't see how terminating somebody solves anything.

89Hen wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Are you opposed on the grounds that it's murder, it's not a deterrent or both?

Both. BTW, I used to be a proponent of it.

^^This.

Well as far as the death penalty is concerned as a deterrant. Baltimore County prosecutors push hard for the death penalty, murder rate is low. Baltimore City prosecutors refuse to use the death penalty, murder rate is top 3 in the country? Violent criminals know precisely where that City/County line is. Also, if you get caught in the County with an illegal handgun, I forget the name of it, but if found guilty, you get shipped out of state to serve your prison sentence. In the City you just go to Central with all your boys.

That said, if this is anything like the God Reward MD for Gay Marriage with the Ravens Super Bowl win, then I'm all for banning the death penalty for a Orioles World Series title!!!!

So how many people get gunned down during the parade today?

Grizalltheway wrote:So how many people get gunned down during the parade today?

They know not to come out in the day. The mounted are out in full force.

andy7171 wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:So how many people get gunned down during the parade today?

They know not to come out in the day. The mounted are out in full force.

Screaming Bagels mom works for the po po?

She must be one of their training exercises.




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Ibanez wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I think he is a pussy and should be fired for incompetency.

Yeah, b/c the death penalty is such a deterrent.

It is an absolute deterrent that prevents that particular person from committing another crime.

andy7171 wrote:Well as far as the death penalty is concerned as a deterrant. Baltimore County prosecutors push hard for the death penalty, murder rate is low. Baltimore City prosecutors refuse to use the death penalty, murder rate is top 3 in the country?

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the people living in each.

The only people I support the death penalty for are those who commit crimes with absolutely no (I mean not even an infintecimal) chance of false conviction (e.g. Jared Loughner). Since those people are usually deemed not fit to stand trial, I don't have a problem with it.

Pwns wrote:The only people I support the death penalty for are those who commit crimes with absolutely no (I mean not even an infintecimal) chance of false conviction (e.g. Jared Loughner). Since those people are usually deemed not fit to stand trial, I don't have a problem with it.

I was on a jury that convicted a guy of murder and sentenced him to death - this was after he had already been convicted and sentenced to death for two other murders for which they had enough evidence. He said himself he may have killed up to 8 people.

That was 1996, in North Carolina for murders committed in 1990 or before. And he's still in jail with no date set. Not too much of a deterrent if you know you'll have plenty of time to exhaust appeals

ASUG8 wrote:

Pwns wrote:The only people I support the death penalty for are those who commit crimes with absolutely no (I mean not even an infintecimal) chance of false conviction (e.g. Jared Loughner). Since those people are usually deemed not fit to stand trial, I don't have a problem with it.

I was on a jury that convicted a guy of murder and sentenced him to death - this was after he had already been convicted and sentenced to death for two other murders for which they had enough evidence. He said himself he may have killed up to 8 people.

That was 1996, in North Carolina for murders committed in 1990 or before. And he's still in jail with no date set. Not too much of a deterrent if you know you'll have plenty of time to exhaust appeals

Exactly. I think the only way for it to be a truly effective deterrent is to have a Saudi Arabia-style, cut-your-head-off-at-dawn system.

Pwns wrote:The only people I support the death penalty for are those who commit crimes with absolutely no (I mean not even an infintecimal) chance of false conviction (e.g. Jared Loughner). Since those people are usually deemed not fit to stand trial, I don't have a problem with it.

This is pretty much where I stand. It's known that we have executed innocent people in this country. That's a terrible tragedy.

I can relate, as I was accused of a crime once myself that I did not commit (not a violent crime), took a polygraph test and failed, and was nearly expelled from UD because of it.

Still, I think we need an ultimate deterrent for the beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt type murderers that commit the most heinous acts, and I don't really care if they were nuts or otherwise mentally defective by birth or environment. McVey, Loughner, the Marine that just killed the SEAL. All good folks to hang IMHO.

Grizalltheway wrote:Exactly. I think the only way for it to be a truly effective deterrent is to have a Saudi Arabia-style, cut-your-head-off-at-dawn system.

Yeah, we should model our justice system after Saudi Arabia.