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"Yes, waterboarding worked.
Today on Meet the Press Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta admitted that information gleaned from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him......."
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Saw that this morning and just went "humph"

CID1990 wrote:Saw that this morning and just went "humph"

"You're evil! They are our brothers and we can live together if we just give peace a chance."





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common knowledge among anybody with a brainstem. The fact he felt compelled to "admit it" says more about him and this adminstration than anything.

Well, I guess this means we have to swallow our outrage if our guys become captive and are tortured.

I suppose the argument that the end justifies the means wins out in this case; but unlike most of you here I experienced America when it was at it's peak and more than just another run-of-the-mill secret police regime.
Whatever we gained from torturing our enemies, we're now a lot more like them than we used to be.

houndawg wrote:Well, I guess this means we have to swallow our outrage if our guys become captive and are tortured.

I suppose the argument that the end justifies the means wins out in this case; but unlike most of you here I experienced America when it was at it's peak and more than just another run-of-the-mill secret police regime.
Whatever we gained from torturing our enemies, we're now a lot more like them than we used to be.

I hear what you're sayin' dawg, but we can NOT continue conducting war by a different set of rules than the enemy and think things are going to turn out alright based on numbers and brute force. It just won't work any more.

And, still waiting on statistics about how many of enemy combatants we've beheaded.

AZGrizFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:Well, I guess this means we have to swallow our outrage if our guys become captive and are tortured.

I suppose the argument that the end justifies the means wins out in this case; but unlike most of you here I experienced America when it was at it's peak and more than just another run-of-the-mill secret police regime.
Whatever we gained from torturing our enemies, we're now a lot more like them than we used to be.

I hear what you're sayin' dawg, but we can NOT continue conducting war by a different set of rules than the enemy and think things are going to turn out alright based on numbers and brute force. It just won't work any more.

And, still waiting on statistics about how many of enemy combatants we've beheaded.

I hear what you're saying, too, Z: we have to be like them because their ways work better than ours do.

Are family and kids killed by "surgical" drone strikes covered in the "beheading enemy combatants" category?

houndawg wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: I hear what you're sayin' dawg, but we can NOT continue conducting war by a different set of rules than the enemy and think things are going to turn out alright based on numbers and brute force. It just won't work any more.

And, still waiting on statistics about how many of enemy combatants we've beheaded.

I hear what you're saying, too, Z: we have to be like them because their ways work better than ours do.

Are family and kids killed by "surgical" drone strikes covered in the "beheading enemy combatants" category?

Any more than families and kids killed by suicide bombers...

houndawg wrote:Well, I guess this means we have to swallow our outrage if our guys become captive and are tortured.

I suppose the argument that the end justifies the means wins out in this case; but unlike most of you here I experienced America when it was at it's peak and more than just another run-of-the-mill secret police regime.
Whatever we gained from torturing our enemies, we're now a lot more like them than we used to be.

Donk pussy...

Working for the US government abroad can be dangerous, dawg. These brave individuals knew the risks when they took the job.

For god's sake, get a hold of yourself, old man.

Shocking statement.


Ok not really.

What's this? People do horrible things in a war?

All I can think of is the left's faux outrage over waterboarding, and talking about how our problems with terrorists is a law enforcement problem.

Now we hear nothing, and come to think of it I haven't seen a body count on CNN in four years, either.

Small price to pay.

Bring on the Saudi Olympic swimming team!

houndawg wrote:Well, I guess this means we have to swallow our outrage if our guys become captive and are tortured.

I suppose the argument that the end justifies the means wins out in this case; but unlike most of you here I experienced America when it was at it's peak and more than just another run-of-the-mill secret police regime.
Whatever we gained from torturing our enemies, we're now a lot more like them than we used to be.

Yeah, it all went bad when we hung Major Andre because the British had earlier hanged Nathan Hale. When we sunk to the level of the British we were on our way downhill from there. I'm still amazed that you're that old to remember that, but that would explain some of the irrational thought on your part on other subjects. Dementia is a terrible thing.

Hanging spies isn't the same as torturing prisoners of war.


Oh, excuse me. "Enemy combatants."

Skjellyfetti wrote:Hanging spies isn't the same as torturing prisoners of war.


Oh, excuse me. "Enemy combatants."

Quick question, choose just one:

a) being waterboarded
b) being beheaded

AZGrizFan wrote:
Quick question, choose just one:

a) being waterboarded
b) being beheaded

What about the choice between

a) being beheaded
b) being sodomized by a broomstick for months on end

AZGrizFan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Hanging spies isn't the same as torturing prisoners of war.


Oh, excuse me. "Enemy combatants."

Quick question, choose just one:

a) being waterboarded
b) being beheaded

He will take option

c) eating chips and drinking Mountain Dew in his mom's basement while he collects any check from the government he can get while driving a shitbox with no insurance or license.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Quick question, choose just one:

a) being waterboarded
b) being beheaded

What about the choice between

a) being beheaded
b) being sodomized by a broomstick for months on end

So you're implying that there is something WORSE than death?

And "for months on end"? You got a source or did you just pull that out of your ass?"

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Quick question, choose just one:

a) being waterboarded
b) being beheaded

What about the choice between

a) being beheaded
b) being sodomized by a broomstick for months on end

In your case, one means death, the other might involve a subsequent marriage proposal.

AZGrizFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:
I hear what you're saying, too, Z: we have to be like them because their ways work better than ours do.

Are family and kids killed by "surgical" drone strikes covered in the "beheading enemy combatants" category?

Any more than families and kids killed by suicide bombers...

My point exactly, not much difference between them and us.

CID1990 wrote:All I can think of is the left's faux outrage over waterboarding, and talking about how our problems with terrorists is a law enforcement problem.

Now we hear nothing, and come to think of it I haven't seen a body count on CNN in four years, either.

Kind of a lefty version of "school shootings are a mental health problem, so we need to arm teachers".

Baldy wrote:

houndawg wrote:Well, I guess this means we have to swallow our outrage if our guys become captive and are tortured.

I suppose the argument that the end justifies the means wins out in this case; but unlike most of you here I experienced America when it was at it's peak and more than just another run-of-the-mill secret police regime.
Whatever we gained from torturing our enemies, we're now a lot more like them than we used to be.

Donk pussy...

Working for the US government abroad can be dangerous, dawg. These brave individuals knew the risks when they took the job.

For god's sake, get a hold of yourself, old man.

Yeah, you talk a good game, but you'll be among the first to start bleating about them bad ol' muslins done cut the head offn our guy.


milquetoast

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:All I can think of is the left's faux outrage over waterboarding, and talking about how our problems with terrorists is a law enforcement problem.

Now we hear nothing, and come to think of it I haven't seen a body count on CNN in four years, either.

Kind of a lefty version of "school shootings are a mental health problem, so we need to arm teachers".

Quite a stretch, HD. Hope you didn't pull something old fella.

CID1990 wrote:

houndawg wrote:

Kind of a lefty version of "school shootings are a mental health problem, so we need to arm teachers".

Quite a stretch, HD. Hope you didn't pull something old fella.

You better hope you have enough scots-irish in you to have something to pull when you're my age. I'm a fvcking legend at the local Crossfit.