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47% Percentage of Americans who say they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property, according to Gallup, the highest reported number in two decades

$6 billion Estimated revenue generated by the gun and ammunition industry in the U.S., according to an analysis by business research firm Hoovers

310 million Estimated number of firearms in the U.S., according to the federal government, which includes 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million shotguns

209,750 Number of jobs related to the firearm industry in 2012, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which estimates that $9.8 billion in annual wages are earned annually

30% Percentage increase in employment in the industry between 2008 and 2011, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation

131,806 Number of federally licensed firearms and ammunition dealers in the U.S., about four times as many the number of grocery stores, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

5,459,240 Number of new firearms manufactured in the U.S. in 2011, 95% of which are sold domestically, according to the ATF

3,252,404 Number of firearms imported into the U.S. (529,056 shotguns, 998,072 rifles, and 1,725,276 handguns) in 2010, according to the ATF

846,619 Number of firearms imported into the U.S. in 2011 from Brazil, the leading gun importer to the U.S., according to the ATF

$29,818,880 Market value lost by gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson after its stock price decreased by 5.2% on Monday, December 17, amid what the Los Angeles Times called “a surge in discussion about gun control” after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

$1,197 to $1,391 Suggested retail price for the Bushmaster .223 caliber M4 carbine, the rifle used by Adam Lanza in the Newtown school shooting, according to Reuters

Background Checks
16,808,538 Number of background checks on firearm purchasers conducted by the FBI this year through November, an all-time record

78,211 Number of firearm purchase denials by the FBI in 2011, about 0.48% of all attempted purchases

899,099 Number of firearm purchases that have been denied by the FBI between November 30, 1998 (when the FBI began processing background checks) and December 31, 2011. Of those, 7,879 were denied because of issues relating to the would-be purchaser’s mental health

62% Percentage of private gun sellers who agreed to sell a firearm to a buyer who couldn’t pass a background check, according to an undercover investigation by New York City public officials

154,873 Number of point-of-sale background checks conducted by the FBI on Black Friday this year, the most ever and a 20% increase from Black Friday 2011

2,006,919 Number of background checks performed in November, according to the FBI, an all-time record

Politics
$5.1 billion Estimated federal and state taxes (business and excise) generated by the industry in 2012, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation

$136 million Revenue for firearm manufacturer Smith & Wesson in the second quarter, which increased by 48% (from $92 million) from the previous quarter; profits at Smith & Wesson have risen by 140% since President Barack Obama’s election in 2008, according to Forbes, a trend that’s been widely interpreted as anticipation of possible gun control legislation from the White House.

17-to-1 Ratio of gun-rights lobbyist spending to gun control lobbyist spending in 2011, according to opensecrets.org and an analysis by Republic Report. Gun rights groups spent $4,212,996; gun control groups spent $240,000.

$14 million Amount of money the National Rifle Association spent during the 2012 election in an attempt to defeat President Obama, according to The New York Times

47,856 Number of people who have been killed in the U.S. by firearms between 2006 and 2010, according to the FBI


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The funny thing is, that the weapons makers will bitch about Obama and the pending weapons band. However, they jacked up the prices to all weapons and parts. Th average price for a new M4 was between 1200-1400. Now its over 2k. A single 30 round m4 mag. was 8.00 now its 25.00.

I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

mrklean wrote:The funny thing is, that the weapons makers will bitch about Obama and the pending weapons band. However, they jacked up the prices to all weapons and parts. Th average price for a new M4 was between 1200-1400. Now its over 2k. A single 30 round m4 mag. was 8.00 now its 25.00.

Weapon and ammo makers are rolling in dough right now, as are pawn shops and other gun retailers so I'm doubting they're terribly upset about it. Every place I've been in the last couple of months has been sold out or nearly so, and the gun range I go to is rationing ammo and has long waits to shoot.

I'll get nailed for this, but I kind of get the proposed assault weapons ban simply because I don't really want or need one and haven't really heard a compelling case for having them around (except they're fun to shoot). My opinion is that Obama will get blasted for putting a band-aid on the problem when gun violence isn't simply caused by the weapon itself. Penalizing folks who attempt to buy guns through legal channels while failing to address the prevalence of weapons obtained through black market channels is absolutely wrong. If legislation is enacted it should take a more objective view of root causes for gun violence. Drug use? Mental health issues? Spend the money on screening buyers and confiscation of weapons illegally obtained. There are no easy answers to this, but making sane folks jump through hoops while ignoring the criminal element is....criminal.

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

This.

It can also be an election killer. There's too much support and $'s behind it.

On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

Colt
Rock River
Daniel Defense....ect. No one will want to kill jobs now!!!!!

You cant get .223 ammo in GA.

mrklean wrote:

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

Colt
Rock River
Daniel Defense....ect. No one will want to kill jobs now!!!!!

You cant get .223 ammo in GA.

You don't get it do you?

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

True, but the powers that be don't care about it because it doesn't fit the narrative.
I read in an obscure news story that there have already been 40 murders in Chicago this year. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

They dont know shit about running an economy nor do they care about jobs.....this is obvious to anyone over the last 5 years.

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Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote: On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

True, but the powers that be don't care about it because it doesn't fit the narrative.
I read in an obscure news story that there have already been 40 murders in Chicago this year. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thats not possible....Chicago has very strict gun laws in place and Rahm Emanuel...........everyone should feel safe there.




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Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

It's an academic extraction that can't happen in the real world.

The cream of the jest in this whole thing is listening to the gun crowd talk about how we need to increase spending on certain social programs related to mental health.

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

Really? Was it the absence of people calling for the complete banning of guns that gave you doubts?

Seen on gun store walls across America:

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

Really? Was it the absence of people calling for the complete banning of guns that gave you doubts?

Try to keep up cunt stain. The people on here saying guns will be banned.

Ibanez wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Really? Was it the absence of people calling for the complete banning of guns that gave you doubts?

Try to keep up cunt stain. The people on here saying guns will be banned.

Who, the gun salesmen on here?

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote:I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

This.

It can also be an election killer. There's too much support and $'s behind it.

On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

Nobody cares about Mexicans and blacks slaughtering each other. They only give a rip when its white kids or white Congresswomen getting capped.

CID1990 wrote: Nobody cares about Mexicans and blacks slaughtering each other. They only give a rip when its white kids or white Congresswomen getting capped.

True, but is that wrong???

CID1990 wrote:

kalm wrote:
This.

It can also be an election killer. There's too much support and $'s behind it.

On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

Nobody cares about Mexicans and blacks slaughtering each other. They only give a rip when its white kids or white Congresswomen getting capped.

You mean people are selfish and narrow-minded? I agree. But better gun violence statistics makes holding on to your guns easier. Remove the drug related gun homicides and suicides and the number of gun related deaths drops off a ton.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Try to keep up cunt stain. The people on here saying guns will be banned.

Who, the gun salesmen on here?

Hogan has stated that they will be banned (or confiscated). Or both. Either way, it's a stupid and un realistic notion.

Ibanez wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Who, the gun salesmen on here?

Hogan has stated that they will be banned (or confiscated). Or both. Either way, it's a stupid and un realistic notion.

Um, you do realize there was a gun ban from 1994 to 2004, right? You also realize that Feinstein introduced an even larger ban a couple of weeks ago, right?

How is the notion stupid when it's already happened before?

Ibanez wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Who, the gun salesmen on here?

Hogan has stated that they will be banned (or confiscated). Or both. Either way, it's a stupid and un realistic notion.

Hogan should be drug tested as long as he owns firearms.

93henfan wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Hogan has stated that they will be banned (or confiscated). Or both. Either way, it's a stupid and un realistic notion.

Um, you do realize there was a gun ban from 1994 to 2004, right? You also realize that Feinstein introduced an even larger ban a couple of weeks ago, right?

How is the notion stupid when it's already happened before?

If memory serves: the bullshit the Alex Jones', some posters on here and the hicks I work with and am in contact with, it has been feared that the Gov't is going after more than assault rifles. Actually, wasn't handguns mentioned a week ago? The notion is stupid when all these pro gun loud mouths(aka extremists) start saying they gov't is going to take all of your guns. Well, if they take all of our guns, then the industry is losing a huge customer base which can result in a loss of jobs.

I dont see the major ban happening.

Ibanez wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Um, you do realize there was a gun ban from 1994 to 2004, right? You also realize that Feinstein introduced an even larger ban a couple of weeks ago, right?

How is the notion stupid when it's already happened before?

If memory serves: the bullshit the Alex Jones', some posters on here and the hicks I work with and am in contact with, it has been feared that the Gov't is going after more than assault rifles. Actually, wasn't handguns mentioned a week ago? The notion is stupid when all these pro gun loud mouths(aka extremists) start saying they gov't is going to take all of your guns. Well, if they take all of our guns, then the industry is losing a huge customer base which can result in a loss of jobs.

I dont see the major ban happening.

Assault weapons have been banned for decades. They're going after semi autos this time, like in 94.

Not enough man hours available to collect all the guns.

93henfan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
If memory serves: the bullshit the Alex Jones', some posters on here and the hicks I work with and am in contact with, it has been feared that the Gov't is going after more than assault rifles. Actually, wasn't handguns mentioned a week ago? The notion is stupid when all these pro gun loud mouths(aka extremists) start saying they gov't is going to take all of your guns. Well, if they take all of our guns, then the industry is losing a huge customer base which can result in a loss of jobs.

I dont see the major ban happening.

Assault weapons have been banned for decades. They're going after semi autos this time, like in 94.

That's what I meant. I know assault weapons are banned. However I want to say i read that the Donks were considering hand guns.

Meanwhile, didn't Congress try this in 2009 in fail? Wasn't there some sort of attempt on gun control then?