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NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:21 am
by Col Hogan
"After Democrats in New York rammed a sweeping assault on the right to keep and bear arms through the legislature that failed to exempt police officers from the draconian restrictions, gun owners and even some lawmakers are planning what has been dubbed potentially the largest act of civil disobedience in state history. According to news reports, gun rights activists are urging everyone to defy far-left Governor Andrew Cuomo’s new registration mandate while daring authorities to “come and take it.”

Analysts say the legislation, passed in a frenzy last week in the wake of the Newtown shooting, represents the most brazen infringement on the right to keep and bear arms anywhere in the nation. Among other points, the so-called SAFE Act seeks to limit magazines to just seven bullets, require virtually all of the estimated one million semi-automatic rifles in the state to be registered with authorities, mandate reporting of patients who express indications that they may have thoughts about hurting themselves or others by doctors, and more.

Aside from being unconstitutional, experts on gun violence also point out that the draconian schemes are a bad idea: Studies have repeatedly shown that more guns lead to less crime, and the phenomenon is obvious across America — just compare Chicago or D.C. to Alaska or Wyoming. The mandated reporting requirements for doctors, meanwhile, have come under fire from across the political spectrum. Whether it will even be possible to enforce the bill, however, remains to be seen.

Preparations are already being made for mass resistance. “I’ve heard from hundreds of people that they’re prepared to defy the law, and that number will be magnified by the thousands, by the tens of thousands, when the registration deadline comes,’’ said President Brian Olesen with American Shooters Supply, among the biggest gun dealers in the state, in an interview with the New York Post.

Even government officials admit that forcing New Yorkers to register their guns will be a tough sell, and they are apparently aware that massive non-compliance will be the order of the day. “Many of these assault-rifle owners aren’t going to register; we realize that,’’ a source in the Cuomo administration told the Post, adding that officials expect “widespread violations” of the new statute. "

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Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:26 am
by houndawg
"Come and take them" :lol:


This is great. Civil disobedience is almost always a good thing, and now we might get to see just how tough some of these geeks are. 8-)

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:45 pm
by 93henfan
houndawg wrote:"Come and take them" :lol:


This is great. Civil disobedience is almost always a good thing, and now we might get to see just how tough some of these geeks are. 8-)
Are you as much of a prick in real life as you portray here?

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:06 pm
by ∞∞∞
Good for them. What's that quote? Something like, "A law lacking respect is merely a written idea."

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:26 pm
by psychoCAT
houndawg wrote:"Come and take them" :lol:


This is great. Civil disobedience is almost always a good thing, and now we might get to see just how tough some of these geeks are. 8-)
Yes, we will see how tough these government pencil-pushing geeks are when they are staring down hot lead! FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:59 pm
by bluehenbillk
What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:24 pm
by D1B
psychoCAT wrote:
houndawg wrote:"Come and take them" :lol:


This is great. Civil disobedience is almost always a good thing, and now we might get to see just how tough some of these geeks are. 8-)
Yes, we will see how tough these government pencil-pushing geeks are when they are staring down hot lead! FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!
You're the reason we have have to have strict gun laws, you psychopath.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:25 pm
by D1B
Awwwww....7 bullet clip......Hogan and the rest of the gun fucks will have to reload and possibly kill fewer children. :ohno: :dunce:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:28 pm
by AZGrizFan
bluehenbillk wrote:What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:
My automobile won't assist me in fighting back the tyranny of our government.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:37 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:
My automobile won't assist me in fighting back the tyranny of the nigger in the Oval Office.

FIFY :coffee:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:16 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: My automobile won't assist me in fighting back the tyranny of the nigger in the Oval Office.

FIFY :coffee:
I think no less of Obama than I did of Clinton. How do you explain that? :kisswink: :dunce:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:27 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
D1B wrote:

FIFY :coffee:
I think no less of Obama than I did of Clinton. How do you explain that? :kisswink: :dunce:
You're not being truthful?

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:13 pm
by CitadelGrad
AZGrizFan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:
My automobile won't assist me in fighting back the tyranny of our government.
It would if you saw Janet Napolitano in a crosswalk.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:15 pm
by CitadelGrad
bluehenbillk wrote:What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:
Gun ownership is a constitutional right. Driving a car on public roads is not.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:33 pm
by YoUDeeMan
We're selling litterally tons of assault weapons to the Middle East and any other buyer we can find...and those guns are being used to kill children - just not our children.

Hey, Joe Biden...what do you have against brown kids? :suspicious:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:41 pm
by 93henfan
Cluck U wrote:We're selling litterally tons of assault weapons to the Middle East and any other buyer we can find...and those guns are being used to kill children - just not our children.

Hey, Joe Biden...what do you have against brown kids? :suspicious:
:notworthy:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:22 pm
by BDKJMU
CitadelGrad wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:
Gun ownership is a constitutional right. Driving a car on public roads is not.
Yep- and also registration leads to confiscation. It happened in the UK, and it happened in Australia. If the govt doesn't know who has the weapons, it can't make any gun bans retro active, coming to confiscate them.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:31 pm
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Gun ownership is a constitutional right. Driving a car on public roads is not.
Yep- and also registration leads to confiscation. It happened in the UK, and it happened in Australia. If the govt doesn't know who has the weapons, it can't make any gun bans retro active, coming to confiscate them.
I've registered many things with the government and never had a single one confiscated. Just sayin. :twocents:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:37 pm
by 93henfan
kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Yep- and also registration leads to confiscation. It happened in the UK, and it happened in Australia. If the govt doesn't know who has the weapons, it can't make any gun bans retro active, coming to confiscate them.
I've registered many things with the government and never had a single one confiscated. Just sayin. :twocents:
How many of the things you registered do liberals salivate and thump their chests over banning?

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:50 am
by Col Hogan
kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Yep- and also registration leads to confiscation. It happened in the UK, and it happened in Australia. If the govt doesn't know who has the weapons, it can't make any gun bans retro active, coming to confiscate them.
I've registered many things with the government and never had a single one confiscated. Just sayin. :twocents:
I'm still trying to figure out which one of the three you are,kalm...

The Evil, The Ignorant, The Delusional, and The Children


I know some people are going to disagree with the tone of this article. Many people on the same side of the gun control issue as me are going to say that resorting to name calling is not the way to go. But when you look at how effective the same tactic has been used against the pro-gun supporters, it raises question about how efficient and effective our strategy and tactics have actually been. Pro-gun people have successfully been demonized by the anti-gun crowd and that crowd can be divided up into three groups, The Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional.

The Evil

The very worse of the three groups are The Evil. These are the people who have been voted in as public servants and who have sworn to uphold The Constitution. Yet, at every opportunity these evil servants have broken their oath and have time and time again voted themselves more power while taking the power away from those that they have sworn to serve. Often these evil moves come from a position of elitism. They believe that they are better than the people that they serve. They believe that they are smarter than the people that they serve. They believe that they and their families are more important than those that they swore to serve. They act as if they are doing what is best for us, all the while looting the people that they serve of their rights and their freedoms. They have one goal in mind and that is to grab as much power as they can for themselves and the government that they serve..........yes, the government that they serve. See, The Evil do not serve the people, they serve themselves and they serve the government. They do not care about the people and to the exact same extent they do not care about The Children. How can The Evil ones care about The Children when they make it more and more difficult for a parent to protect their children, all the while guaranteeing armed security for their own children. This hypocrisy and elitism is the ultimate form of obvious evil.

It is an elitist attitude that reeks of a "I do not care if your children die due to your inability to protect them, but I will assure that my children are safe from the evils of this world" stench.

The problem with this attitude is the fact that these elitist hypocrites are the ultimate evil in this world. They want to convince The Ignorant and The Delusional that they care about children being killed when in fact they are actually creating a situation where even more children can possibly be killed. Most politicians are educated and know the history of America, The Constitution, and the historical evils that tyrannical governments have perpetuated on its people. Far more children have been killed by tyrannical governments than by mentally ill people with assault weapons. Those numbers would not even be close. But once again it is not about "for the children" it is about using a tragedy to grab the power and when the public servants grab power for themselves, inherently that obtained power goes to the government.

The Founding Fathers put The Second Amendment in place to protect the people from a tyrannical government and our public servants know that. A vote for gun control from our public servants is a vote for a tyrannical government, a vote against the Constitution, and a vote against our children. This is an undeniable evil and this evil is being perpetrated right now in this country. I am not saying that there is going to be a genocide committed against the people of this country tomorrow. What I am saying is that things are being put into place here that have been put into places in the past that has led to a number of the most heinous genocides that this world as ever seen. These are historical facts and if you do not believe them you may want to do some research on gun control and the genocides that have followed. If you cannot rattle off at least five genocides of the past, that followed strict gun control, your knowledge level may need a quick update. The information is out there for those that actually want to find it.

Obviously, The Evil cannot do this all on their own, they need help from a very large group of useful idiots. These useful idiots can be public servants, the media, and the public at large. They may or may not fall in the category of The Evil because they may not be smart enough/knowledgeable enough to understand the evil that they perpetrate. But even so, they are still on the side of evil and the tools of evil. These people fall into two groups, The Ignorant and The Delusional.

The Ignorant

The word "ignorance" is not an insult. Every one of us is ignorant about something. The Ignorant can be ignorant in many forms, but inside of this topic the three greatest forms of their ignorance comes down a lack of knowledge of America History, American Government, and World History.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" George Santayana

The Ignorant have their ignorance used against them. But that can be curtailed by gaining the knowledge necessary to make informed decisions. The Evil want The Ignorant to remain ignorant so that they can keep using them as the tools of evil. If The Evil can convince The Ignorant that The Founding Fathers were bumbling buffoons that did not understand the advancement of technology, then The Ignorant can be convinced that The Founding Fathers did not see the advent of assault rifles. If The Evil can convince The Ignorant that The Second Amendment had nothing to do with making sure that the people can protect themselves from a tyrannical government, then The Ignorant would not mind Americans being disarmed. If The Evil can convince The Ignorant that just because the government disarmed its people does not make it a tyrannical government, then The Ignorant would not fear having Americans disarmed.


Ignorance can also be taken advantage of when crime statistics of disarmed societies are not spoken of. There is not one case of guns being taken and crime statistics not climbing. Criminals fear an armed public and as soon as it becomes a crime to own guns or to use a gun in self defense the criminal element ramps up its attacks on the unarmed law abiding people. These are all facts that can be found if The Ignorant want to move past being used as the tools of evil.

The Evil prey on The Ignorant. They lie and they deceive. They use and they abuse. The number of ignorant, throughout world history, that have helped The Evil commit unspeakable forms of brutality and genocide on their own people is astounding. Imagine the pain and the guilt of that betrayal. Imagine believing that you were doing the right thing (for the children) due to ignorance, only to find that you were on the side of evil all along and many more children paid with their lives due to your ignorance. That reality would have to be a fate worse than death. This is possibly happening right now in this country, things are being put into motion that can possibly lead to a tyrannical government ruling this country with an iron fist. I believe this to the extent that I am concerned about even writing this article.

Ignorance is not a curse, ignorance is not a death sentence, ignorance is something that can be eliminated with an open mind and the search for "the truth." The Ignorant are like the undecided voter. They are the ones that will be the deciding factor in this gun control issue. They are the ones that will decide the children's fate. Do we throw the baby out with the bath water and put into motion the likelihood of America turning into a tyrannical government? Or do we look at the facts of gun violence against the children and understand that a mentally ill individual with an assault rifle is not near the threat level of The Evil and a tyrannical government.

The Delusional

While the ignorance can be educated, The Delusional cannot. The Delusional are those that do not deal or live in reality. They are the ones that believe that all guns can be rounded up and that would be the end of the threat against our children. They believe that a "gun free zone" should extend throughout this country and that that is the only answer to gun violence. This level of delusiveness completely baffles and escapes me. It is as if there is a form of mental illness that perpetuates an utopian dream that will simply never be part of the human experience. Man has perpetrated evil on man throughout the history of man and that is not going to change any time soon. The only people that comply with gun control laws are the good people. Evil people will not comply (and that is why the evil public servants have excluded themselves from the gun control laws.) That would mean that the vast majority of the people that still had guns would be evil people. What part of this do they not understand? What level of delusiveness would you have to be in order to believe such obvious impossibilities? Are they really so blinded by their delusions and their lack of rational thought that they are unable to see the facts of gun confiscation throughout the world, the effects on crime soaring, the historical governmental abuses, and genocide?

The only other group of people that would still have guns would be the good people that are willing to go to jail for the rest of their lives in order to protect their loved ones/children.

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13

I am pretty sure that the delusional do not understand the above quote due to their obvious lack of rational. But, what we are talking about is a willingness to do anything to protect our loved ones and especially The Children.

I am sick and tired of The Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional using "for the children" as their excuse to destroy America. It is you.......The Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional that perpetrates and perpetuates the evil that endangers The Children and The Grand Children. Do not come at me with your outright lies, your fabrications, your agenda manipulation, and your politicizing of a tragedy to further your evil intent. You can preach your lie "for the children" but there is only one side of this fight that is truly about The Children and it is not the side of the Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:56 am
by D1B
Hogan is Psychocat, but has a job.

Crazy, fucked up welfare whore and gun moron. :ohno:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:31 am
by kalm
Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:
I've registered many things with the government and never had a single one confiscated. Just sayin. :twocents:
I'm still trying to figure out which one of the three you are,kalm...

The Evil, The Ignorant, The Delusional, and The Children


I know some people are going to disagree with the tone of this article. Many people on the same side of the gun control issue as me are going to say that resorting to name calling is not the way to go. But when you look at how effective the same tactic has been used against the pro-gun supporters, it raises question about how efficient and effective our strategy and tactics have actually been. Pro-gun people have successfully been demonized by the anti-gun crowd and that crowd can be divided up into three groups, The Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional.

The Evil

The very worse of the three groups are The Evil. These are the people who have been voted in as public servants and who have sworn to uphold The Constitution. Yet, at every opportunity these evil servants have broken their oath and have time and time again voted themselves more power while taking the power away from those that they have sworn to serve. Often these evil moves come from a position of elitism. They believe that they are better than the people that they serve. They believe that they are smarter than the people that they serve. They believe that they and their families are more important than those that they swore to serve. They act as if they are doing what is best for us, all the while looting the people that they serve of their rights and their freedoms. They have one goal in mind and that is to grab as much power as they can for themselves and the government that they serve..........yes, the government that they serve. See, The Evil do not serve the people, they serve themselves and they serve the government. They do not care about the people and to the exact same extent they do not care about The Children. How can The Evil ones care about The Children when they make it more and more difficult for a parent to protect their children, all the while guaranteeing armed security for their own children. This hypocrisy and elitism is the ultimate form of obvious evil.

It is an elitist attitude that reeks of a "I do not care if your children die due to your inability to protect them, but I will assure that my children are safe from the evils of this world" stench.

The problem with this attitude is the fact that these elitist hypocrites are the ultimate evil in this world. They want to convince The Ignorant and The Delusional that they care about children being killed when in fact they are actually creating a situation where even more children can possibly be killed. Most politicians are educated and know the history of America, The Constitution, and the historical evils that tyrannical governments have perpetuated on its people. Far more children have been killed by tyrannical governments than by mentally ill people with assault weapons. Those numbers would not even be close. But once again it is not about "for the children" it is about using a tragedy to grab the power and when the public servants grab power for themselves, inherently that obtained power goes to the government.

The Founding Fathers put The Second Amendment in place to protect the people from a tyrannical government and our public servants know that. A vote for gun control from our public servants is a vote for a tyrannical government, a vote against the Constitution, and a vote against our children. This is an undeniable evil and this evil is being perpetrated right now in this country. I am not saying that there is going to be a genocide committed against the people of this country tomorrow. What I am saying is that things are being put into place here that have been put into places in the past that has led to a number of the most heinous genocides that this world as ever seen. These are historical facts and if you do not believe them you may want to do some research on gun control and the genocides that have followed. If you cannot rattle off at least five genocides of the past, that followed strict gun control, your knowledge level may need a quick update. The information is out there for those that actually want to find it.

Obviously, The Evil cannot do this all on their own, they need help from a very large group of useful idiots. These useful idiots can be public servants, the media, and the public at large. They may or may not fall in the category of The Evil because they may not be smart enough/knowledgeable enough to understand the evil that they perpetrate. But even so, they are still on the side of evil and the tools of evil. These people fall into two groups, The Ignorant and The Delusional.

The Ignorant

The word "ignorance" is not an insult. Every one of us is ignorant about something. The Ignorant can be ignorant in many forms, but inside of this topic the three greatest forms of their ignorance comes down a lack of knowledge of America History, American Government, and World History.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" George Santayana

The Ignorant have their ignorance used against them. But that can be curtailed by gaining the knowledge necessary to make informed decisions. The Evil want The Ignorant to remain ignorant so that they can keep using them as the tools of evil. If The Evil can convince The Ignorant that The Founding Fathers were bumbling buffoons that did not understand the advancement of technology, then The Ignorant can be convinced that The Founding Fathers did not see the advent of assault rifles. If The Evil can convince The Ignorant that The Second Amendment had nothing to do with making sure that the people can protect themselves from a tyrannical government, then The Ignorant would not mind Americans being disarmed. If The Evil can convince The Ignorant that just because the government disarmed its people does not make it a tyrannical government, then The Ignorant would not fear having Americans disarmed.


Ignorance can also be taken advantage of when crime statistics of disarmed societies are not spoken of. There is not one case of guns being taken and crime statistics not climbing. Criminals fear an armed public and as soon as it becomes a crime to own guns or to use a gun in self defense the criminal element ramps up its attacks on the unarmed law abiding people. These are all facts that can be found if The Ignorant want to move past being used as the tools of evil.

The Evil prey on The Ignorant. They lie and they deceive. They use and they abuse. The number of ignorant, throughout world history, that have helped The Evil commit unspeakable forms of brutality and genocide on their own people is astounding. Imagine the pain and the guilt of that betrayal. Imagine believing that you were doing the right thing (for the children) due to ignorance, only to find that you were on the side of evil all along and many more children paid with their lives due to your ignorance. That reality would have to be a fate worse than death. This is possibly happening right now in this country, things are being put into motion that can possibly lead to a tyrannical government ruling this country with an iron fist. I believe this to the extent that I am concerned about even writing this article.

Ignorance is not a curse, ignorance is not a death sentence, ignorance is something that can be eliminated with an open mind and the search for "the truth." The Ignorant are like the undecided voter. They are the ones that will be the deciding factor in this gun control issue. They are the ones that will decide the children's fate. Do we throw the baby out with the bath water and put into motion the likelihood of America turning into a tyrannical government? Or do we look at the facts of gun violence against the children and understand that a mentally ill individual with an assault rifle is not near the threat level of The Evil and a tyrannical government.

The Delusional

While the ignorance can be educated, The Delusional cannot. The Delusional are those that do not deal or live in reality. They are the ones that believe that all guns can be rounded up and that would be the end of the threat against our children. They believe that a "gun free zone" should extend throughout this country and that that is the only answer to gun violence. This level of delusiveness completely baffles and escapes me. It is as if there is a form of mental illness that perpetuates an utopian dream that will simply never be part of the human experience. Man has perpetrated evil on man throughout the history of man and that is not going to change any time soon. The only people that comply with gun control laws are the good people. Evil people will not comply (and that is why the evil public servants have excluded themselves from the gun control laws.) That would mean that the vast majority of the people that still had guns would be evil people. What part of this do they not understand? What level of delusiveness would you have to be in order to believe such obvious impossibilities? Are they really so blinded by their delusions and their lack of rational thought that they are unable to see the facts of gun confiscation throughout the world, the effects on crime soaring, the historical governmental abuses, and genocide?

The only other group of people that would still have guns would be the good people that are willing to go to jail for the rest of their lives in order to protect their loved ones/children.

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13

I am pretty sure that the delusional do not understand the above quote due to their obvious lack of rational. But, what we are talking about is a willingness to do anything to protect our loved ones and especially The Children.

I am sick and tired of The Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional using "for the children" as their excuse to destroy America. It is you.......The Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional that perpetrates and perpetuates the evil that endangers The Children and The Grand Children. Do not come at me with your outright lies, your fabrications, your agenda manipulation, and your politicizing of a tragedy to further your evil intent. You can preach your lie "for the children" but there is only one side of this fight that is truly about The Children and it is not the side of the Evil, The Ignorant, and The Delusional.
I'm the "open minded" to all arguments. That's why you're unsure.

I mentioned in another thread that if the gun rights lobby had reasoned people such as yourself, 93hen, and a few others on the board as spokesman rather than Wayne LaPierre and Ted Nugent, you'd be winning the debate.

Until the above rant you've been pretty damn good at avoiding hyperbolic and emotion charged responses to honest points. :ohno:

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:58 am
by Ibanez
bluehenbillk wrote:What exactly is so wrong with registering guns? We do it with automobiles & that works out for the most part.... :coffee: :coffee:
Nothing. There isn't anything wrong with registering a gun.

Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:28 am
by kalm
Case in point. Don't respect a sincere and honest debate, just call names and shout 'em down! :ohno:
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Parents of children killed in the Newtown school shooting called for better enforcement of gun laws and tougher penalties for violators Monday at a hearing that revealed the divide in the gun-control debate, with advocates for gun rights shouting at the father of one 6-year-old victim.
Neil Heslin, whose son Jesse was killed in last month's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary, asked people in the room to put themselves in his position as he questioned the need for any civilian to own semiautomatic, military-style weapons.
"It's not a good feeling. Not a good feeling to look at your child laying in a casket or looking at your child with a bullet wound to the forehead. It's a real sad thing," said Heslin, who held up a large framed photograph of himself and his son.
A handful of people at the packed legislative hearing then shouted about their Second Amendment rights when Heslin asked if anyone could provide a reason for a civilian to own an assault-style weapon.
"We're all entitled to our own opinions and I respect their opinions and their thoughts," Heslin said. "But I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."
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Re: NYS Gun Owners Civil Disobedience....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:58 am
by D1B
kalm wrote:Case in point. Don't respect a sincere and honest debate, just call names and shout 'em down! :ohno:
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Parents of children killed in the Newtown school shooting called for better enforcement of gun laws and tougher penalties for violators Monday at a hearing that revealed the divide in the gun-control debate, with advocates for gun rights shouting at the father of one 6-year-old victim.
Neil Heslin, whose son Jesse was killed in last month's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary, asked people in the room to put themselves in his position as he questioned the need for any civilian to own semiautomatic, military-style weapons.
"It's not a good feeling. Not a good feeling to look at your child laying in a casket or looking at your child with a bullet wound to the forehead. It's a real sad thing," said Heslin, who held up a large framed photograph of himself and his son.
A handful of people at the packed legislative hearing then shouted about their Second Amendment rights when Heslin asked if anyone could provide a reason for a civilian to own an assault-style weapon.
"We're all entitled to our own opinions and I respect their opinions and their thoughts," Heslin said. "But I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."
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Gun Conks :ohno: