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Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:34 am
by 93henfan
So it looks like he covered every group but straight, white, Christian males born in the United States.
Good thing I'm not one of those poor bastards.
Wait, what? Oh shit.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:39 am
by ASUG8
You'd think if I was helping pay for a $100M boondoggle that was purely ceremonial I'd have some minor level of interest at least. Alas, that is not the case.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:06 pm
by Seahawks08
The mention of climate change was encouraging. After completely neglecting it in his first term, he better do something about it this term.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:03 pm
by CAA Flagship
Seahawks08 wrote:The mention of climate change was encouraging. After completely neglecting it in his first term, he better do something about it this term.

He hasn't done anything about jobs either. Which comes first, climate change or jobs?
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:12 pm
by HI54UNI
Seahawks08 wrote:The mention of climate change was encouraging. After completely neglecting it in his first term, he better do something about it this term.

Lip service. The world can't live without carbon based fuels.
Typed on my computer while listening to music sitting under the lights in my warm office all powered by electricity generated from coal.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:17 pm
by bluehenbillk
Seahawks08 wrote:The mention of climate change was encouraging. After completely neglecting it in his first term, he better do something about it this term.

I'd worry more about an asteroid hitting the Earth than I would climate change. I hate cold winters, I'm pro-global warming.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:21 pm
by travelinman67
Seahawks08 wrote:The mention of climate change was encouraging. After completely neglecting it in his first term, he better do something about it this term.

Indeed. He really needs to prioritize saving us from ourselves...whatever the cost.
It finally looks like he's inspired hope in our future...

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:50 pm
by Grizalltheway
HI54UNI wrote:Seahawks08 wrote:The mention of climate change was encouraging. After completely neglecting it in his first term, he better do something about it this term.

Lip service. The world can't live without carbon based fuels.
It'll have to eventually. It won't happen overnight, but do you really think we'll still be using coal to generate most of our power a hundred, two hundred years from now?
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:11 pm
by travelinman67
Grizalltheway wrote:HI54UNI wrote:
Lip service. The world can't live without carbon based fuels.
It'll have to eventually. It won't happen overnight, but do you really think we'll still be using coal to generate most of our power a hundred, two hundred years from now?
Coal use will be minimized due to it's cost/btu, but natural gas, petroleum and biomass will always be around.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:18 pm
by DSUrocks07
travelinman67 wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
It'll have to eventually. It won't happen overnight, but do you really think we'll still be using coal to generate most of our power a hundred, two hundred years from now?
Coal use will be minimized due to it's cost/btu, but natural gas, petroleum and biomass will always be around.
The idea of eliminating the use of ALL fossil fuels is a pipe dream.
no pun intended
Any new technology will be inherently expensive BECAUSE its new. And having liberals holding a gun to someone's head to force them to use these new sources with no consideration to the cost is irresponsible.
pun intended
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:30 pm
by Col Hogan
DSUrocks07 wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Coal use will be minimized due to it's cost/btu, but natural gas, petroleum and biomass will always be around.
The idea of eliminating the use of ALL fossil fuels is a pipe dream.
no pun intended
Any new technology will be inherently expensive BECAUSE its new. And having liberals holding a gun to someone's head to force them to use these new sources with no consideration to the cost is irresponsible.
pun intended
Where will they get the guns...since if the prez has his way, they will go the way of coal...
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:55 pm
by Ibanez
Col Hogan wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:
The idea of eliminating the use of ALL fossil fuels is a pipe dream.
no pun intended
Any new technology will be inherently expensive BECAUSE its new. And having liberals holding a gun to someone's head to force them to use these new sources with no consideration to the cost is irresponsible.
pun intended
Where will they get the guns...since if the prez has his way, they will go the way of coal...

Obama is not throwing away the 2nd Amendment. I took you for a smarter man Hogan...
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:06 pm
by Col Hogan
Ibanez wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Where will they get the guns...since if the prez has his way, they will go the way of coal...

Obama is not throwing away the 2nd Amendment. I took you for a smarter man Hogan...
Four major gun control acts have been passed in this country...National Firearms Act in 1934; the Gun Control Act of1968; the Firearm Owners Protection Act was passed in 1986; and the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act was passed in 1993...along with about a dozen more minor laws...each chipped away at the Second Amendment...always punishing law-abiding people by treating them as criminals
Democrats in New York discussed total confiscation for the POS law they passed last week...and Connecticut is considering a law where more than ONE bullet in a gun by a law-abiding citizen will be a felony...
Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill tomorrow that will make all modern semi-automatic handguns equal to assault weapons...and will confiscate mine when I die, prohibiting me from giving them to my son...
He's surely building to the day when the Second Amendment is effectively dead...
Wake up, Mark...
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:12 pm
by Seahawks08
He hasn't done anything about jobs either. Which comes first, climate change or jobs?
Asleep at the wheel I see. It's ok, I forgive you.
What I am expecting from him is at least an attempt at another Kyoto Protocol. Capping emissions has to be a world event, not just the U.S.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:16 pm
by CID1990
Seahawks08 wrote:He hasn't done anything about jobs either. Which comes first, climate change or jobs?
Asleep at the wheel I see. It's ok, I forgive you.
What I am expecting from him is at least an attempt at another Kyoto Protocol. Capping emissions has to be a world event, not just the U.S.

Yeah the Reset Button and the Cairo Speech delivered so well for us...
All the Lightbringer will have to do is make a couple speeches in Beijing and Mumbai and snap his fingers.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:16 pm
by Seahawks08
Four major gun control acts have been passed in this country...National Firearms Act in 1934; the Gun Control Act of1968; the Firearm Owners Protection Act was passed in 1986; and the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act was passed in 1993...along with about a dozen more minor laws...each chipped away at the Second Amendment...always punishing law-abiding people by treating them as criminals
Democrats in New York discussed total confiscation for the POS law they passed last week...and Connecticut is considering a law where more than ONE bullet in a gun by a law-abiding citizen will be a felony...
Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill tomorrow that will make all modern semi-automatic handguns equal to assault weapons...and will confiscate mine when I die, prohibiting me from giving them to my son...
He's surely building to the day when the Second Amendment is effectively dead...
Wake up, Mark...
IMO, it's better for the states to discuss this matter than at the federal level. If NY doesn't want assault rifles, then simply move to PA. As long as a state doesn't ban guns totally, I don't see the problem.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:20 pm
by Seahawks08
Yeah the Reset Button and the Cairo Speech delivered so well for us...
All the Lightbringer will have to do is make a couple speeches in Beijing and Mumbai and snap his fingers.
Funny, since China and India were part of the Kyoto Protocol. Actually, the only country who didn't ratify it was the good old U.S. of A!

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:36 pm
by travelinman67
Seahawks08 wrote:Yeah the Reset Button and the Cairo Speech delivered so well for us...
All the Lightbringer will have to do is make a couple speeches in Beijing and Mumbai and snap his fingers.
Funny, since China and India were part of the Kyoto Protocol. Actually, the only country who didn't ratify it was the good old U.S. of A!

Sorry, Al: Not true.
Canada has completely rejected the protocol and Russia also stated at Doha in 2012 it's intent to withdraw. China and India have only agreed in concept to
GENERAL emission reductions, with no specific targets.
Every attempt to build on Kyoto at Bali, Copenhagen, Cancun and the annual Doha conferences
HAVE FAILED .
Do your homework.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:16 pm
by Seahawks08
Maybe you should learn to read. Every country in the world ratified the Kyoto Protocol besides the US. I never said there were countries afterwards who bolted b/c they couldn't reach the limit.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:00 pm
by CID1990
Seahawks08 wrote:Maybe you should learn to read. Every country in the world ratified the Kyoto Protocol besides the US. I never said there were countries afterwards who bolted b/c they couldn't reach the limit.

There's a reason Kyoto is dead. It is bad policy driven by politics. No emerging economies are going to follow through even if they sign on. The US honors the treaties it signs, which is why we did not sign off on Kyoto. If you think for one second that any developing economy would actually abide by the terms then you are very naive.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:19 pm
by travelinman67
Seahawks08 wrote:Maybe you should learn to read. Every country in the world ratified the Kyoto Protocol besides the US. I never said there were countries afterwards who bolted b/c they couldn't reach the limit.

They've bolted because the original targets were derived from hypothesis later found to be false. Despite the errors, the U.N. has continued to force through the original target reductions, still, arguing that without compliance, there will be a 3-5 deg/C global temp rise by 2100: A projection not supported by ANYONE including the IPCC report #4.
Since 2010, all Kyoto meetings have focused on wealth distribution, not climate change.
Again, do your homework.
Folks who are still banging the C02 Climate Change drum have had their head in the sand since 2007.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:50 pm
by kalm
Grizalltheway wrote:HI54UNI wrote:
Lip service. The world can't live without carbon based fuels.
It'll have to eventually. It won't happen overnight, but do you really think we'll still be using coal to generate most of our power a hundred, two hundred years from now?
Fact: The world CAN live without fossil fuels. Fat, lazy, soft, over-consumptive Americans may not. Have I missed something? Has fossil fuel creation started to keep up with energy needs? Or is it like JSO's economy...inFINITE?
Now...please excuse me while I go soak my liberal self loathing in a tub of unnecessary shit that makes me momentarily feel better.
Tomorrow, I will fry an ant with a magnifying glass for the self satisfaction of proving you backward thinkers wrong.
p.s. At this point, I just be happy if he followed through on his one promise to end the BCS.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:23 pm
by ∞∞∞
Hell, I expect us to be travelling through space at near light-speed in 200 years (we have designs that work right now but cost too much to build...sounds familiar to certain renewable energies). With how quickly technology is advancing (it's kept true to a model projection made in the 1950s showing we'll reach singularity this century), it'd be downright pathetic if the entire human race is still relying on fossil fuels 200 years from now, and a bit sad if the developed world is relying on them in 100 years.
Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:03 pm
by Skjellyfetti
93henfan wrote:So it looks like he covered every group but straight, white, Christian males born in the United States.
It would be unsporting to try cut into the Republicans' last remaining demographic.

Re: Obama's 2nd Inaugural Address
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:07 pm
by Baldy
Seahawks08 wrote:
IMO, it's better for the states to discuss this matter than at the federal level. If NY doesn't want assault rifles, then simply move to PA. As long as a state doesn't ban guns totally, I don't see the problem.

Agree...same with abortion.
If state A makes you have an ultrasound or psychological testing or a waiting period before you have an abortion, go to state B.
