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We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:23 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
We need safer propellers too
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/16 ... rush-hour/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


What if a child was around this or it landed in a school yard.


We need commonsense legislation to stop these senseless killings.



:coffee:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:27 am
by houndawg
We need less of your half-witted jabbering. :coffee:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:27 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
GFY commie.............

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:32 am
by D1B
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:GFY commie.............
Man, Alpacajizz, you're taking a beating here lately. :lol: Maybe you should peruse FaceBook or MySpace - something more your speed.

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Alpacajizz

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:37 am
by houndawg
D1B wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:GFY commie.............
Man, Alpacajizz, you're taking a beating here lately. :lol: Maybe you should peruse FaceBook or MySpace - something more your speed.

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Alpacajizz
He'll be back tomorrow to do it again. Montana folk just ain't sharp enough to deliver the abuse he so desperately craves. Even North Dakotans laugh at him. :coffee:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:48 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Oh I get it......you guys think I do this to amuse you!

Funny but your east coast brains cant comprehend just how gigantic the "I dont give a fu*k" is when it comes to caring about what any of you think its about me and my narcissism you elitist douchebags.


Oh and the argument is just as valid anyone of you anti gunners have put together nationally or on here.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:02 am
by D1B
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Oh I get it......you guys think I do this to amuse you!

Funny but your east coast brains cant comprehend just how gigantic the "I dont give a fu*k" is when it comes to caring about what any of you think its about me and my narcissism you elitist douchebags.


Oh and the argument is just as valid anyone of you anti gunners have put together nationally or on here.
Wow, sure does seem like you crave our approval. :nod: :lol:

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"Oh my gah..........D1B and Houdawg are the bomb. I hope my new jeans attract their attenion."

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:24 am
by Skjellyfetti
Oh. You're making a comparison between guns and helicopters? Ok.

The government controls licensing of helicopters. The government controls what size you can fly. Etc. Etc. The government doesn't ban helicopters because they are dangerous. But, it does highly regulate their use. Perhaps we should regulate guns? Oh. Wait.

:jack:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:26 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Oh. You're making a comparison between guns and helicopters? Ok.

The government controls licensing of helicopters. The government controls what size you can fly. Etc. Etc. The government doesn't ban helicopters because they are dangerous. But, it does highly regulate their use. Perhaps we should regulate guns? Oh. Wait.

:jack:
Yeah. Because there's absolutely no regulation of guns currently. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:28 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Oh. You're making a comparison between guns and helicopters? Ok.

The government controls licensing of helicopters. The government controls what size you can fly. Etc. Etc. The government doesn't ban helicopters because they are dangerous. But, it does highly regulate their use. Perhaps we should regulate guns? Oh. Wait.

:jack:
Yeah. Because there's absolutely no regulation of guns currently. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Misses point again. :dunce:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:49 am
by DSUrocks07
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Yeah. Because there's absolutely no regulation of guns currently. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Misses point again. :dunce:
Helicopters are only dangerous when dangerous and improperly trained people use them?

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Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:02 am
by Ibanez
Skjellyfetti wrote:Oh. You're making a comparison between guns and helicopters? Ok.

The government controls licensing of helicopters. The government controls what size you can fly. Etc. Etc. The government doesn't ban helicopters because they are dangerous. But, it does highly regulate their use. Perhaps we should regulate guns? Oh. Wait.

:jack:
Your dumb. We should enforce what laws are on the books and yes, License all gun owners. If you need a class and a license to drive a boat, car, hunt, fish,fly etc... The lets license gun owners. Lets increase education. Banning guns and mag capacity won't solve anything.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when you buy a gun, don't you get a registration for it?

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:03 am
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Yeah. Because there's absolutely no regulation of guns currently. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Misses point again. :dunce:
analjelly HAS no point.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:24 am
by D1B
DSUrocks07 wrote:
D1B wrote:
Misses point again. :dunce:
Helicopters are only dangerous when dangerous and improperly trained people use them?

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Those people also can't pull a helicopter out of their mother's sock drawer either.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:24 am
by Skjellyfetti
DSUrocks07 wrote:Helicopters are only dangerous when dangerous and improperly trained people use them?
No. But, regulating and licensing helicopters reduces the danger, imo. If we just let anyone fly any helicopter they wanted in whatever airspace they wanted, we'd have a clusterfuck and much more danger. Regulations and licensing (of both guns and helicopters) REDUCE, but do not eliminate, the danger. That is all.



Ibanez wrote: Your dumb.
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Ibanez wrote:We should enforce what laws are on the books and yes, License all gun owners. If you need a class and a license to drive a boat, car, hunt, fish,fly etc... The lets license gun owners. Lets increase education. Banning guns and mag capacity won't solve anything.
So, you're calling for more regulation. Gotcha.

That's currently decided at the local level. But, I'd certainly be for national gun licensing. :thumb:



AZGrizFan wrote:Because there's absolutely no regulation of guns currently.
That's exactly my point. Helicopters can be dangerous and there should be regulations stipulating conditions under which they should be used. They should not be flat-out banned. Guns can be dangerous and there should be regulations stipulating conditions under which they should be used. They should not be flat-out banned. No serious politician or person with any power is calling for an outright ban of all guns.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:27 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Because there's absolutely no regulation of guns currently.
That's exactly my point. Helicopters can be dangerous and there should be regulations stipulating conditions under which they should be used. They should not be flat-out banned. Guns can be dangerous and there should be regulations stipulating conditions under which they should be used. They should not be flat-out banned. No serious politician or person with any power is calling for an outright ban of all guns.
There are tens of thousands of "reguations" already on the books regarding guns, when they should/can be used, etc., etc. The LAST group in the world that I want to know what I have is the U.S. government.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:33 am
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote: There are tens of thousands of "reguations" already on the books regarding guns, when they should/can be used, etc., etc. The LAST group in the world that I want to know what I have is the U.S. government.
Great. We disagree. But, that's not really the point.

The point it that this is a dumb thread because helicopters and guns are both heavily regulated and that's all anyone wants. No one is calling for an outright ban on guns.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:35 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: There are tens of thousands of "reguations" already on the books regarding guns, when they should/can be used, etc., etc. The LAST group in the world that I want to know what I have is the U.S. government.
Great. We disagree. But, that's not really the point.

The point it that this is a dumb thread because helicopters and guns are both heavily regulated and that's all anyone wants. No one is calling for an outright ban on guns.
Helicopters aren't protected by the 2nd amendment. There is THAT little factoid muddling up the mix as well...

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:38 am
by Ibanez
Will someone answer my question? Are guns and their owners registered at the point of sale?

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:43 am
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:Will someone answer my question? Are guns and their owners registered at the point of sale?
Google "gun show loophole". 8-)

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:48 am
by Ibanez
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Will someone answer my question? Are guns and their owners registered at the point of sale?
Google "gun show loophole". 8-)
Ahh.

On a side note, I did witness a redneck trade a rifle for a table saw. :coffee:

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:52 am
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote: Helicopters aren't protected by the 2nd amendment. There is THAT little factoid muddling up the mix as well...
So? Even the more hardcore gun rights Supreme Court justices like Scalia agree that there are limits on the 2nd amendment.
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said Sunday that there “undoubtedly are” limits on the second amendment’s right to bear arms but that these must be limitations that were viewed as reasonable at the time the U.S. Constitution was written.
“Yes, there are some limitations that can be imposed,” he said. “What they are will depend on what the society understood was reasonable limitation” when the Constitution was written. He cited, for example, a misdemeanor at the time, of carrying a frightening looking weapon such as a “head ax”.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/07/2 ... -gun-laws/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Helicopters aren't protected by the 2nd amendment. There is THAT little factoid muddling up the mix as well...
So? Even the more hardcore gun rights Supreme Court justices like Scalia agree that there are limits on the 2nd amendment.
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said Sunday that there “undoubtedly are” limits on the second amendment’s right to bear arms but that these must be limitations that were viewed as reasonable at the time the U.S. Constitution was written.
“Yes, there are some limitations that can be imposed,” he said. “What they are will depend on what the society understood was reasonable limitation” when the Constitution was written. He cited, for example, a misdemeanor at the time, of carrying a frightening looking weapon such as a “head ax”.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/07/2 ... -gun-laws/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
100,000,000 gun owners disagree.

Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
D1B wrote: "Oh my gah..........D1B and Houdawg are the bomb. I hope my new jeans attract their attenion."

Maybe you two should write a book?

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Re: We Need to Ban Helicopters

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:31 am
by BDKJMU
Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Oh. You're making a comparison between guns and helicopters? Ok.

The government controls licensing of helicopters. The government controls what size you can fly. Etc. Etc. The government doesn't ban helicopters because they are dangerous. But, it does highly regulate their use. Perhaps we should regulate guns? Oh. Wait.

:jack:
Your dumb. We should enforce what laws are on the books and yes, License all gun owners. If you need a class and a license to drive a boat, car, hunt, fish,fly etc... The lets license gun owners. Lets increase education. Banning guns and mag capacity won't solve anything.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when you buy a gun, don't you get a registration for it?
Driving a boat= PRIVILEGE
Driving a car= PRIVILEGE
HUNTING= PRIVILEGE
Fishing= PRIVILEGE
Flying= PRIVLEGE
Owning a gun= RIGHT

Their is no 2nd amendment to drive a boat, drive a car (or wagon when it was written), to hunt, to fish. You can license privileges. You can't license rights.

And no, none of the guns I've legally purchased or have been given to me by family are registered with anyone. Nor should they be.