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Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:13 pm
by DSUrocks07
From states across the country, Americans have filed petitions on the White House Web site seeking to secede from the union and form new state governments.
While most of the petitions come from states that supported Mitt Romney in last week’s election, a few swing states and even the deep blue Northeast are represented.
Petitions have been filed for Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.
“We petition the Obama Administration to peacefully grant the State of Alabama to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own new government,” reads the Alabama petition.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ele ... to-secede/
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:15 pm
by Ibanez
I've read this article. How stupid is this? Seriously? Oh lord…
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:17 pm
by AZGrizFan
Can not BELIEVE Arizona isn't on that list.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:22 pm
by BlueHen86
AZGrizFan wrote:Can not BELIEVE Arizona isn't on that list.
They sent their petition to Mexico.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:28 pm
by AZGrizFan
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:45 pm
by death dealer
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:07 pm
by SDHornet
BlueHen86 wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:Can not BELIEVE Arizona isn't on that list.
They sent their petition to Mexico.

Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:07 pm
by SDHornet
Ibanez wrote:I've read this article. How stupid is this? Seriously? Oh lord…
That is what crossed my mind when I saw this headline.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:21 pm
by JohnStOnge
Ibanez wrote:I've read this article. How stupid is this? Seriously? Oh lord…
I don't think the concept is stupid at all. We have obviously come to a point in our history where people have very different beliefs about the role of government and how things should proceed. And there is a pretty solid geographic pattern to it. I really am sick of having my life largely controlled because of the influence of what I consider to be states populated with flakes like California and New York. And I'm sure people in California and New York wouldn't like having their lives largely controlled because of the influence on the national government of people they consider to be rednecks from states like Louisiana and Texas.
I would fully support breaking the country in some way. And I am serious. I am really tired of having to live under a national government largely controlled by people concentrated in metropolitan areas of the Northeast, Midwest, and West. We don't have the same ideas and values. Nothing wrong, in my opinion, with us living in different countries. Or at least go to more of a Confederation so that the States are sovereign.
And yes I think Louisiana would be fine without Federal money as long as we get to keep our oil and gas resources. Since we'd be our own country I think what's now in what we call "Federal Waters" would be ours too. We'd be fine.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:40 pm
by BlueHen86
JohnStOnge wrote:Ibanez wrote:I've read this article. How stupid is this? Seriously? Oh lord…
I don't think the concept is stupid at all. We have obviously come to a point in our history where people have very different beliefs about the role of government and how things should proceed. And there is a pretty solid geographic pattern to it. I really am sick of having my life largely controlled because of the influence of what I consider to be states populated with flakes like California and New York. And I'm sure people in California and New York wouldn't like having their lives largely controlled because of the influence on the national government of people they consider to be rednecks from states like Louisiana and Texas.
I would fully support breaking the country in some way. And I am serious. I am really tired of having to live under a national government largely controlled by people concentrated in metropolitan areas of the Northeast, Midwest, and West. We don't have the same ideas and values. Nothing wrong, in my opinion, with us living in different countries. Or at least go to more of a Confederation so that the States are sovereign.
And yes I think Louisiana would be fine without Federal money as long as we get to keep our oil and gas resources. Since we'd be our own country I think what's now in what we call "Federal Waters" would be ours too. We'd be fine.
It's pretty stupid and it's pretty childish. Every year half the country is disappointed in the election result. Get over it. Taking your ball and going home is a loser mentality.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:43 pm
by BlueHen86
JohnStOnge wrote:Ibanez wrote:I've read this article. How stupid is this? Seriously? Oh lord…
I don't think the concept is stupid at all. We have obviously come to a point in our history where people have very different beliefs about the role of government and how things should proceed. And there is a pretty solid geographic pattern to it. I really am sick of having my life largely controlled because of the influence of what I consider to be states populated with flakes like California and New York. And I'm sure people in California and New York wouldn't like having their lives largely controlled because of the influence on the national government of people they consider to be rednecks from states like Louisiana and Texas.
I would fully support breaking the country in some way. And I am serious. I am really tired of having to live under a national government largely controlled by people concentrated in metropolitan areas of the Northeast, Midwest, and West. We don't have the same ideas and values. Nothing wrong, in my opinion, with us living in different countries. Or at least go to more of a Confederation so that the States are sovereign.
And yes I think Louisiana would be fine without Federal money as long as we get to keep our oil and gas resources. Since we'd be our own country I think what's now in what we call "Federal Waters" would be ours too.
We'd be fine.
You would be fine until some other country had a dispute with you, and now you have to fight back all by yourself - whether it be economically, militarily or otherwise. It's the reason that the states united in the first place.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:58 pm
by AZGrizFan
What I find most interesting about this list, is the composition of the list itself.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:48 pm
by Seahawks08
I don't think the concept is stupid at all. We have obviously come to a point in our history where people have very different beliefs about the role of government and how things should proceed. And there is a pretty solid geographic pattern to it. I really am sick of having my life largely controlled because of the influence of what I consider to be states populated with flakes like California and New York. And I'm sure people in California and New York wouldn't like having their lives largely controlled because of the influence on the national government of people they consider to be rednecks from states like Louisiana and Texas.
I would fully support breaking the country in some way. And I am serious. I am really tired of having to live under a national government largely controlled by people concentrated in metropolitan areas of the Northeast, Midwest, and West. We don't have the same ideas and values. Nothing wrong, in my opinion, with us living in different countries. Or at least go to more of a Confederation so that the States are sovereign.
And yes I think Louisiana would be fine without Federal money as long as we get to keep our oil and gas resources. Since we'd be our own country I think what's now in what we call "Federal Waters" would be ours too. We'd be fine.
Someone has gone off the deep end. I mean I get what you're trying to say, but it isn't going to happen without a full out rebellion. Sorry.
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:54 pm
by AZGrizFan
Seahawks08 wrote:Someone has gone off the deep end. I mean I get what you're trying to say, but it isn't going to happen without a full out rebellion. Sorry.

Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:04 pm
by Seahawks08
And the likelihood of that is...
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:13 pm
by SDHornet
Seahawks08 wrote:And the likelihood of that is...
This much:
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Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:45 pm
by SuperHornet
Look, I'm as disappointed by the re-election of the most incompetent President in history as any other conservative, but I canNOT stand behind these idiots plotting secession. First, the original Civil War proved that secession is not possible under our constitution (or, at least, under President Lincoln's interpretation of it, which he enforced under arms). Second, these numbskulls clearly haven't thought through the ramifications of success: Do they band together or try to go it alone? They'll have to plan Constitutional conventions, establish new national level governmental organizations, establish relations with others, etc. Not exactly practical.
The other thing is that this is a sign of giving up too soon. Twenty-sixteen is a chance to get everything back. Conservatives will NEVER get it back if they run away like a bunch of pansies.

Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:50 pm
by Vidav
SuperHornet wrote:Look,
I'm as disappointed by the re-election of the most incompetent President in history as any other conservative, but I canNOT stand behind these idiots plotting secession. First, the original Civil War proved that secession is not possible under our constitution (or, at least, under President Lincoln's interpretation of it, which he enforced under arms). Second, these numbskulls clearly haven't thought through the ramifications of success: Do they band together or try to go it alone? They'll have to plan Constitutional conventions, establish new national level governmental organizations, establish relations with others, etc. Not exactly practical.
The other thing is that this is a sign of giving up too soon. Twenty-sixteen is a chance to get everything back. Conservatives will NEVER get it back if they run away like a bunch of pansies.

Why are we talking about W's relection?

Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:57 pm
by SuperHornet
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:48 pm
by Chizzang
Look I'm all for this if we can start carpet bombing Alabama, Arkansas Florida immediately...
Sounds perfect
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:50 pm
by uofmman1122
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:52 pm
by SuperHornet
It's the old white-glove-across-the-face routine on a grand scale. What they HAVEN'T done is appoint seconds....
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:00 am
by uofmman1122
SuperHornet wrote:
It's the old white-glove-across-the-face routine on a grand scale. What they HAVEN'T done is appoint seconds....
White glove to the face? All this shows Obama is how irrational and butthurt a significant portion of the electorate is.
He should send each state a reply with a tube of Preparation H and "BOO HOO" written for every idiot that signed it. He'd go down as the best president ever, in my book.

Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:16 am
by mrklean
DSUrocks07 wrote:
From states across the country, Americans have filed petitions on the White House Web site seeking to secede from the union and form new state governments.
While most of the petitions come from states that supported Mitt Romney in last week’s election, a few swing states and even the deep blue Northeast are represented.
Petitions have been filed for Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.
“We petition the Obama Administration to peacefully grant the State of Alabama to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own new government,” reads the Alabama petition.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ele ... to-secede/
Give all of these people a one way ticket to Iceland.
God save our Republic!!!
Re: Secession!!!
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:18 am
by mrklean
JohnStOnge wrote:Ibanez wrote:I've read this article. How stupid is this? Seriously? Oh lord…
I don't think the concept is stupid at all. We have obviously come to a point in our history where people have very different beliefs about the role of government and how things should proceed. And there is a pretty solid geographic pattern to it. I really am sick of having my life largely controlled because of the influence of what I consider to be states populated with flakes like California and New York. And I'm sure people in California and New York wouldn't like having their lives largely controlled because of the influence on the national government of people they consider to be rednecks from states like Louisiana and Texas.
I would fully support breaking the country in some way. And I am serious. I am really tired of having to live under a national government largely controlled by people concentrated in metropolitan areas of the Northeast, Midwest, and West. We don't have the same ideas and values. Nothing wrong, in my opinion, with us living in different countries. Or at least go to more of a Confederation so that the States are sovereign.
And yes I think Louisiana would be fine without Federal money as long as we get to keep our oil and gas resources. Since we'd be our own country I think what's now in what we call "Federal Waters" would be ours too. We'd be fine.
WOW how stupid can one person be.
