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89Hen wrote:Sucks, but what can you do about it except move to Mars?

89Hen wrote:Sucks, but what can you do about it except move to Mars?

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote:Sucks, but what can you do about it except move to Mars?

Quitter.

D1B wrote:

89Hen wrote:Sucks, but what can you do about it except move to Mars?

You can stop polluting and quit having so many god damned kids and leave the forests alone.

D1B wrote:

89Hen wrote:Sucks, but what can you do about it except move to Mars?

You can stop polluting and quit having so many god damned kids and leave the forests alone.

Ibanez wrote:

D1B wrote:
You can stop polluting and quit having so many god damned kids and leave the forests alone.

Isn't there a great deal of logging in the liberal NW?

ASUG8 wrote:http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E11.html



Factor in the advent of weather satellites, hurricane hunting aircraft, El Nino/La Nina weather patterns and remove the crazy 2005 season and I'm not seeing a huge upward trend. Ten hurricanes in '12, two made US landfall, about like 1850-1900.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Atlan ... ane_season" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

kalm wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E11.html



Factor in the advent of weather satellites, hurricane hunting aircraft, El Nino/La Nina weather patterns and remove the crazy 2005 season and I'm not seeing a huge upward trend. Ten hurricanes in '12, two made US landfall, about like 1850-1900.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Atlan ... ane_season" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think part of the predictions were the severity of the storms and unusual weather outside of season which has certainly been the case in some parts of the country.

Ibanez wrote:

D1B wrote:
You can stop polluting and quit having so many god damned kids and leave the forests alone.

Isn't there a great deal of logging in the liberal NW?

JoltinJoe wrote:Maybe D1 Boo Boo could do his part too by keeping his mouth shut and not polluting our atmosphere with his hot air.

kalm wrote:I think part of the predictions were the severity of the storms and unusual weather outside of season which has certainly been the case in some parts of the country.

Some famous October hurricanes that have hit Florida are:
Opal in 1995: hit western Florida panhandle near Pensacola as a Category 3 hurricane with 115 mph winds
Isbell in 1964: hit the southwest coast just south of Marco Island with 115 mph winds
King in 1950: hit the southeast coast near Miami with 105 mph winds
Unnamed hurricane in 1944: hit southwest coast near Port Charlotte with 120 mph winds
Unnamed hurricane in 1910: hit southwest coast near Naples with 115 mph winds
Unnamed hurricane in 1906: hit the upper Keys and southeast coast with 125 mph winds

89Hen wrote:

kalm wrote:I think part of the predictions were the severity of the storms and unusual weather outside of season which has certainly been the case in some parts of the country.

Would need to see stats going back 1000 years or so to make that call. Late season hurricanes aren't a new phenomenon AFAIK.

http://m.weatherbug.com/weather-news/we ... 496?cid=32

Some famous October hurricanes that have hit Florida are:
Opal in 1995: hit western Florida panhandle near Pensacola as a Category 3 hurricane with 115 mph winds
Isbell in 1964: hit the southwest coast just south of Marco Island with 115 mph winds
King in 1950: hit the southeast coast near Miami with 105 mph winds
Unnamed hurricane in 1944: hit southwest coast near Port Charlotte with 120 mph winds
Unnamed hurricane in 1910: hit southwest coast near Naples with 115 mph winds
Unnamed hurricane in 1906: hit the upper Keys and southeast coast with 125 mph winds

kalm wrote:I wasn't just thinking of this storm, but that's good information.

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote: Would need to see stats going back 1000 years or so to make that call. Late season hurricanes aren't a new phenomenon AFAIK.

http://m.weatherbug.com/weather-news/we ... 496?cid=32

I wasn't just thinking of this storm, but that's good information.

ASUG8, I thought the storm surge for this one set records as well. How about rainfall records?

In 2008 and 2009, the Spokane area had the snowiest winters on record. May and June in 2011 and 2012 were the wettest and coldest on record.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Isn't there a great deal of logging in the liberal NW?

The logging happens outside metro Seattle, Olympia, Portland, Eugene, Bend, and Bellingham. Other than those cities, the NW is conk central.

89Hen wrote:

kalm wrote:I wasn't just thinking of this storm, but that's good information.

We live relatively short lives. Big events like this may be the worst we've ever seen, but probably not the worst Earth has seen in the last 1000 years. We also live in a time when everything gets sensationalized. Our blizzard of two years ago was giant, but I remember one from the mid/late 70's that was just as big. Records dont' stand forever.

Ibanez wrote:

kalm wrote:
The logging happens outside metro Seattle, Olympia, Portland, Eugene, Bend, and Bellingham. Other than those cities, the NW is conk central.

I read somewhere that 60% of Washington residents live in the Seattle Metro area, which is a very democratic section. When was your last republican administration? The 70's? THe state has voted Blue in every presidential election since 1988. The logging may be outside, but the politics has allowed it.


Hey, South Carolina is Red and ridiculous. I admit that.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote: I read somewhere that 60% of Washington residents live in the Seattle Metro area, which is a very democratic section. When was your last republican administration? The 70's? THe state has voted Blue in every presidential election since 1988. The logging may be outside, but the politics has allowed it.


Hey, South Carolina is Red and ridiculous. I admit that.

I was being flippant, but fwiw most of the logging takes place on federal lands.

Ibanez wrote:

kalm wrote:
The logging happens outside metro Seattle, Olympia, Portland, Eugene, Bend, and Bellingham. Other than those cities, the NW is conk central.

I read somewhere that 60% of Washington residents live in the Seattle Metro area, which is a very democratic section. When was your last republican administration? The 70's? THe state has voted Blue in every presidential election since 1988. The logging may be outside, but the politics has allowed it.


Hey, South Carolina is Red and ridiculous. I admit that.

kalm wrote: I think part of the predictions were the severity of the storms and unusual weather outside of season which has certainly been the case in some parts of the country.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote: I read somewhere that 60% of Washington residents live in the Seattle Metro area, which is a very democratic section. When was your last republican administration? The 70's? THe state has voted Blue in every presidential election since 1988. The logging may be outside, but the politics has allowed it.


Hey, South Carolina is Red and ridiculous. I admit that.

You know it's possible to log a forest without destroying it, right?