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It will show an upward revision from last month, and the #s likely will be bad, which will hurt Obama. It would be an absolute crock if they don't get it released before the elecdtion, as it could sway the election..
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BDKJMU wrote:It will show an upward revision from last month, and the #s likely will be bad, which will hurt Obama. It would be an absolute crock if they don't get it released before the elecdtion, as it could sway the election..
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If it's withheld to protect the President, then I agree, it's a crock.

If it's withheld because of the storm, then so be it. Won't be the first time a report has been delayed.

Nobody cares about reports, the lines are drawn, and everybody knows what line you stand behind.

Wedgebuster wrote:Nobody cares about reports, the lines are drawn, and everybody knows what line you stand behind.

This is way off. I and all my friends are waiting for the last jobs report to make our decision on who to vote for. If its not released Friday, we're all voting for Obama. If we don't get this critical piece of data, we can only assume that the President is doing a terrific job.

Wedgebuster wrote:Nobody cares about reports, the lines are drawn, and everybody knows what line you stand behind.

At 47-47 in Ohio I'd say it's a big deal.

If the report is good for Obama the conks will say the report is a lie.

BlueHen86 wrote:If the report is good for Obama the conks will say the report is a lie.

Considering every recent report has been downgraded in the following weeks...

89Hen wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:If the report is good for Obama the conks will say the report is a lie.

Considering every recent report has been downgraded in the following weeks...

That doesn't mean the anyone is lying, it just brings the methodology into question.

But hey, nice job laying the groundwork in case you need to spin away on Friday.

BlueHen86 wrote:

89Hen wrote: Considering every recent report has been downgraded in the following weeks...

That doesn't mean the anyone is lying, it just brings the methodology into question.

But hey, nice job laying the groundwork in case you need to spin away on Friday.

Wouldn't the numbers being revised both up and down bring the methodolgy into question?

89Hen wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
That doesn't mean the anyone is lying, it just brings the methodology into question.

But hey, nice job laying the groundwork in case you need to spin away on Friday.

Wouldn't the numbers being revised both up and down bring the methodolgy into question?

Consistently one way gives me the impression that something is being done incorrectly every time. But I see what you a alluding to, it does leave open the possibility that something is being done intentionally for the Presidents benefit.

Up and down would give me the impression that someone doesn't know what they are doing.

BlueHen86 wrote:

89Hen wrote: Wouldn't the numbers being revised both up and down bring the methodolgy into question?

Consistently one way gives me the impression that something is being done incorrectly every time. But I see what you a alluding to, it does leave open the possibility that something is being done intentionally for the Presidents benefit.

Up and down would give me the impression that someone doesn't know what they are doing.

Which is worse, incompetent or deceitful?

89Hen wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
Consistently one way gives me the impression that something is being done incorrectly every time. But I see what you a alluding to, it does leave open the possibility that something is being done intentionally for the Presidents benefit.

Up and down would give me the impression that someone doesn't know what they are doing.

Which is worse, incompetent or deceitful?

I would say deceitful, but I don't think that is the case.

89Hen wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
Consistently one way gives me the impression that something is being done incorrectly every time. But I see what you a alluding to, it does leave open the possibility that something is being done intentionally for the Presidents benefit.

Up and down would give me the impression that someone doesn't know what they are doing.

Which is worse, incompetent or deceitful?

Why don't you go shack up with spandos, conspiracy boy?

Grizalltheway wrote:

89Hen wrote: Which is worse, incompetent or deceitful?

Why don't you go shack up with spandos, conspiracy boy?

He's not spanos, but he is trying to have his cake and eat it too. He says the report is a big deal, but he is also laying the ground work to discredit the report if it's good for the President.

93henfan wrote:

Wedgebuster wrote:Nobody cares about reports, the lines are drawn, and everybody knows what line you stand behind.

This is way off. I and all my friends are waiting for the last jobs report to make our decision on who to vote for. If its not released Friday, we're all voting for Obama. If we don't get this critical piece of data, we can only assume that the President is doing a terrific job.

You're kidding, right? Please tell me you are kidding.

CitadelGrad wrote:

93henfan wrote:
This is way off. I and all my friends are waiting for the last jobs report to make our decision on who to vote for. If its not released Friday, we're all voting for Obama. If we don't get this critical piece of data, we can only assume that the President is doing a terrific job.

You're kidding, right? Please tell me you are kidding.

I'm pretty sure that he was kidding. At least I hope so.

CitadelGrad wrote:

93henfan wrote:
This is way off. I and all my friends are waiting for the last jobs report to make our decision on who to vote for. If its not released Friday, we're all voting for Obama. If we don't get this critical piece of data, we can only assume that the President is doing a terrific job.

You're kidding, right? Please tell me you are kidding.

He is joking. We all know he is a Jill Stein fan.

BlueHen86 wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Why don't you go shack up with spandos, conspiracy boy?

He's not spanos, but he is trying to have his cake and eat it too. He says the report is a big deal, but he is also laying the ground work to discredit the report if it's good for the President.

Not completely.

1. Delayed and bad = suspicious
2. On time and good = grain of salt (based on the most recent ones that have been overstated)
3. On time and bad = bad for Obama
4. Delayed and good = my bad

Unemployment rises to 7.9 percent; economy adds 171,000 jobs in October.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... 1000-jobs/

DSUrocks07 wrote:Unemployment rises to 7.9 percent; economy adds 171,000 jobs in October.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... 1000-jobs/

Not much change, probably minimal affect on voters.

BDKJMU wrote:It will show an upward revision from last month, and the #s likely will be bad, which will hurt Obama. It would be an absolute crock if they don't get it released before the elecdtion, as it could sway the election..
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/10/ ... bs-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

False alarm.

DSUrocks07 wrote:Unemployment rises to 7.9 percent; economy adds 171,000 jobs in October.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... 1000-jobs/

What is the REAL unemployment number? It's closer to 15%.

Ibanez wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:Unemployment rises to 7.9 percent; economy adds 171,000 jobs in October.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... 1000-jobs/

What is the REAL unemployment number? It's closer to 15%.

Sssshhhhh. That was only relevant when this was still Bush's recession.

The U-6 (real unemployment rate) is 14.6%.

CitadelGrad wrote:The U-6 (real unemployment rate) is 14.6%.

Not to defend Obama's policies but where was it in 2009? I remember progressive economist quoting the U6 a ton back then. Now it's fashionable for conks I guess.