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He was against the mandate before he was for it:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FknJLMc84bo[/youtube]

Obama in 2004: "My religious faith dictates marriage is between a man and a woman, gay marriage is not a civil right."
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhaThnPWB0A[/youtube]

Obama in 2004: "We need to decriminalize our marijuana laws." In 2007 debate he said he opposed decriminalizing marijuana.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA[/youtube]

In 2004 Obama says he wants to end the Embargo in Cuba. In 2007, he says he's for it:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OjOQ6xz1b8[/youtube]

Obama crticizes Bush for using executive privilege, then turns around and uses it himself during Fast and Furious:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpwYh9TD6Nc[/youtube]

I hope you're at least getting paid to post these.

He's a politician. Of COURSE he flip flops. But it's only a BAD thing when the OTHER guy does it.

Obama flip flopped on closing Gitmo. Obama exec order from Jan 22, 2009:

"Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities

EXECUTIVE ORDER -- REVIEW AND DISPOSITION OF INDIVIDUALS DETAINED AT THE GUANTÁNAMO BAY NAVAL BASE AND CLOSURE OF DETENTION FACILITIES

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, in order to effect the appropriate disposition of individuals currently detained by the Department of Defense at the Guantánamo Bay Naval Base (Guantánamo) and promptly to close detention facilities at Guantánamo, consistent with the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States and the interests of justice, I hereby order as follows:

......Sec. 3. Closure of Detention Facilities at Guantánamo. The detention facilities at Guantánamo for individuals covered by this order shall be closed as soon as practicable, and no later than 1 year from the date of this order.............."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_off ... Facilities" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Flip flops? Seriously?

He's been President for 4 years, he has an established record and you're worried about flip flops?
Of course you are, you are a desperate partisan, you'll grab on to any crumb that you can.

This Obama flip flop on campaign financing is even well documented by the liberal Huff Po:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gJUUe_SlIM[/youtube]

Obama flipped flopped on lobbyists- Said they wouldn’t work in the White House, then gave them waivers to work there.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... lobbyists/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Let's see, there's numerous more well documented Obama flip flops:

-Obama flipped flopped on the debt limit- as a Senator he was against increasing it, as a president he has been all for increasing it several times during his 4 yrs.

-Obama flipped flopped on the Bush tax cuts. He campaigned against extending them, then he extended all of them.

-Obama flipped flopped on the deficit. He promised to cut it in half by the end of his 1st term. He has passed 4 years of trillion dollar deficits.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care. Said if you like your health plan you can keep it; but then threw seniors off Medicare Plus & many employers are now saying they’ll dump people onto the public exchange.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care #2: Promised health care negotiations would be televised, then changed his mind.

BlueHen86 wrote:Flip flops? Seriously?

He's been President for 4 years, he has an established record and you're worried about flip flops?
Of course you are, you are a desperate partisan, you'll grab on to any crumb that you can.

You weren't paying attention to Obama's campaign tour in Ohio today...he said you couldn't trust Romney to be President because Romney flip flopped on issues!

So, I guess you'll be posting that Obama is grabbing on to any crumb that he can...just to be fair and balanced.

BlueHen86 wrote:Flip flops? Seriously?

He's been President for 4 years, he has an established record and you're worried about flip flops?
Of course you are, you are a desperate partisan, you'll grab on to any crumb that you can.

I bring it up because Obama, and a lot of donks right now are trying to paint Romney as a flip flopper, you know, "Romnesia", which is the ultimate in hypocrisy and the pot calling the kettle black.
"On the campaign trail in Iowa today, President Obama insisted that his political record has remained the same since he first ran for office as a State Senator in Illinois.

""You can take a videotape of things I said 10 years ago, 12 years ago and you'd say, 'Man this is the same guy,'" he insisted after criticizing Mitt Romney for changing his positions on issues.

Does that include gay marriage? Or single payer universal health care? Or welfare reform? Or drivers licenses for illegal immigrants?....."
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2511595" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Donks on this board this campaign season have accused Romney of being a flip flopper, as if Obama isn't one. Well, again, a case of major hypocrisy and the pot calling the kettle black. Romney is a flip flopper, but so is Obama, and a worse one at that. He has out flip flopped Romney.

So it looks like all the donks are as you put it, "grabbing at crumbs" too.

trying to paint

There is no trying. He is one. And so is Obama. And so is Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, need I go on? Basically, we should examine their actions and not their words.

Cluck U wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:Flip flops? Seriously?

He's been President for 4 years, he has an established record and you're worried about flip flops?
Of course you are, you are a desperate partisan, you'll grab on to any crumb that you can.

You weren't paying attention to Obama's campaign tour in Ohio today...he said you couldn't trust Romney to be President because Romney flip flopped on issues!

So, I guess you'll be posting that Obama is grabbing on to any crumb that he can...just to be fair and balanced.

You're comparing BDKJMU to Obama?

Is BDK actually Romney?

BDKJMU wrote:Let's see, there's numerous more well documented Obama flip flops:

-Obama flipped flopped on the debt limit- as a Senator he was against increasing it, as a president he has been all for increasing it several times during his 4 yrs.

-Obama flipped flopped on the Bush tax cuts. He campaigned against extending them, then he extended all of them.

-Obama flipped flopped on the deficit. He promised to cut it in half by the end of his 1st term. He has passed 4 years of trillion dollar deficits.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care. Said if you like your health plan you can keep it; but then threw seniors off Medicare Plus & many employers are now saying they’ll dump people onto the public exchange.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care #2: Promised health care negotiations would be televised, then changed his mind.

Oh please...you know as well as I that only Romney flip-flops....Obama "evolves".

Baldy wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Let's see, there's numerous more well documented Obama flip flops:

-Obama flipped flopped on the debt limit- as a Senator he was against increasing it, as a president he has been all for increasing it several times during his 4 yrs.

-Obama flipped flopped on the Bush tax cuts. He campaigned against extending them, then he extended all of them.

-Obama flipped flopped on the deficit. He promised to cut it in half by the end of his 1st term. He has passed 4 years of trillion dollar deficits.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care. Said if you like your health plan you can keep it; but then threw seniors off Medicare Plus & many employers are now saying they’ll dump people onto the public exchange.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care #2: Promised health care negotiations would be televised, then changed his mind.

Oh please...you know as well as I that only Romney flip-flops....Obama "evolves".

Here's hoping he evolves into a productive citizen in the private sector.

Seahawks08 wrote:

trying to paint

There is no trying. He is one. And so is Obama. And so is Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, need I go on? Basically, we should examine their actions and not their words.

Obama doing his best Bush imitation and Romney, rhetorically moving toward the middle to look more like.........Obama!



I want to vote for the guy who is on record as supporting a woman's right to chose, universal healthcare, low taxes for the rich, and a financial services based economy.

kalm wrote:I want to vote for the guy who is on record as supporting a woman's right to chose, universal healthcare, low taxes for the rich, and a financial services based economy.

I want a girl with a short skirt and a loooooonnnnng jacket.

BTW 86, please tell me you're joking about this not being relevant.

89Hen wrote:

kalm wrote:I want to vote for the guy who is on record as supporting a woman's right to chose, universal healthcare, low taxes for the rich, and a financial services based economy.

I want a girl with a short skirt and a loooooonnnnng jacket.

BTW 86, please tell me you're joking about this not being relevant.

Great song.

Baldy wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Let's see, there's numerous more well documented Obama flip flops:

-Obama flipped flopped on the debt limit- as a Senator he was against increasing it, as a president he has been all for increasing it several times during his 4 yrs.

-Obama flipped flopped on the Bush tax cuts. He campaigned against extending them, then he extended all of them.

-Obama flipped flopped on the deficit. He promised to cut it in half by the end of his 1st term. He has passed 4 years of trillion dollar deficits.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care. Said if you like your health plan you can keep it; but then threw seniors off Medicare Plus & many employers are now saying they’ll dump people onto the public exchange.

-Obama flipped flopped on health care #2: Promised health care negotiations would be televised, then changed his mind.

Oh please...you know as well as I that only Romney flip-flops....Obama "evolves".

I don't think the flip flop charge works as well on a sitting candidate. Romney would get more traction pointing out that Obama didn't keep his promises from 2008.

All politicians change their mind, so of course Obama is going to call Romney a flip flopper. I realize that it's a matter of semantics, but I think talking about Obama's broken promises will go further than calling Obama a flip flopper just because he called Romney one.

89Hen wrote:

kalm wrote:I want to vote for the guy who is on record as supporting a woman's right to chose, universal healthcare, low taxes for the rich, and a financial services based economy.

I want a girl with a short skirt and a loooooonnnnng jacket.

BTW 86, please tell me you're joking about this not being relevant.

See my post above.