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Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:31 pm
by 93henfan
This was the Korean War of debates.

Discuss.

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:46 pm
by Grizalltheway
What happened? I turned it off and decided to watch Breaking Bad instead.

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:46 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:What happened? I turned it off and decided to watch Breaking Bad instead.
Good choice. A rerun, i assume?

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:50 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:What happened? I turned it off and decided to watch Breaking Bad instead.
Good choice. A rerun, i assume?
Sort of. Finally checked it out on Netflix, and I'm straight hooked now. :oops:

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:52 pm
by 93henfan
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Good choice. A rerun, i assume?
Sort of. Finally checked it out on Netflix, and I'm straight hooked now. :oops:
Nice! I watched the first four seasons in three weeks. :D

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:58 pm
by AZGrizFan
93henfan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Sort of. Finally checked it out on Netflix, and I'm straight hooked now. :oops:
Nice! I watched the first four seasons in three weeks. :D
I've now caught up on BrBa, Walking Dead and Hell on Wheels. Not sure where to go from here.

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:09 pm
by DSUrocks07
AZGrizFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Nice! I watched the first four seasons in three weeks. :D
I've now caught up on BrBa, Walking Dead and Hell on Wheels. Not sure where to go from here.
Burn Notice?

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:07 am
by GannonFan
Like I said in the other thread, just an ugly debate that only partisans could like. Diehard Conks will say Romney won and diehard Donks will cheer on Obama. Actually, one of the good outcomes from this is you can easily identify the clear partisan hacks now depending on whether they claim one guy won last night. They both lost a lot of credibility last night - less than a month from an election that's not a great thing for the moderates among us who have to pick one of these guys (and yes, I know Gary Johnson is apparently a candidate somewhere but I could write in a random name and that name will have more chances to win that Mr. Johnson).

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:03 am
by JohnStOnge
I think you're right. If you read this article at Real Clear Politics:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... in-debate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The take away appears to be that a narrow majority thing Obama did better in the debate. But there is a suggestion that it's because he did better than expected and a suggestion that it did result in any perceptible advantage for Obama in terms of people changing their votes based on what they saw. Here is a quote:
he president's edge on the question of who won the debate appears to be the result of his much better than expected performance and his advantage on likeability. But the poll also indicates that debate watchers said Romney would do a better job on economic issues. And the two candidates were tied on an important measure - whether the showdown would affect how the debate watchers will vote. Nearly half said the debate did not make them more likely to vote for either candidate, with the other half evenly divided between both men.
And, really, the question of how people might change their vote is the one that counts.

A CBS poll of undecided voters yielded similar results in terms of who people thought "won" and "lost" the debate but the report on it at http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133279n" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; doesn't address the question of the rate at which people might change their votes.

There is an "X Box" poll mentioned in an article at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... ostpopular" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that shows a bigger advantage for Obama and does address the "change your vote" question. But it does not appear to involved a "scientific" sample.

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:11 am
by ASUG8
Romney was aggressive again, the president more so than last time. Romney scored points on countering Obama's assertion that MR's money was tied up in China and MR pressed BO to tell where his pension was invested. Romney lost points on Libya when Obama said the buck stopped with him, not the SoS. I felt it was kind of a draw overall.

Obama debates better closer to sea level. Look for Gore to confirm that later today. :coffee:

Re: Clear Tie - No Winners

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 am
by AZGrizFan
DSUrocks07 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I've now caught up on BrBa, Walking Dead and Hell on Wheels. Not sure where to go from here.
Burn Notice?
I'm thinking of that and a few others...I smell a poll coming.... 8-) 8-)