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USCCB RESPONDS TO INACCURATE STATEMENT OF FACT ON HHS MANDATE MADE DURING VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE



WASHINGTON—The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) issued the following statement, October 12. Full text follows:



Last night, the following statement was made during the Vice Presidential debate regarding the decision of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to force virtually all employers to include sterilization and contraception, including drugs that may cause abortion, in the health insurance coverage they provide their employees:



“With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.”



This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain “religious employers.” That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to “Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital,” or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.



HHS has proposed an additional “accommodation” for religious organizations like these, which HHS itself describes as “non-exempt.” That proposal does not even potentially relieve these organizations from the obligation “to pay for contraception” and “to be a vehicle to get contraception.” They will have to serve as a vehicle, because they will still be forced to provide their employees with health coverage, and that coverage will still have to include sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients. They will have to pay for these things, because the premiums that the organizations (and their employees) are required to pay will still be applied, along with other funds, to cover the cost of these drugs and surgeries.



USCCB continues to urge HHS, in the strongest possible terms, actually to eliminate the various infringements on religious freedom imposed by the mandate.

Fuck those bigoted pieces of shit

So because somebody's beliefs are under attack, you start with the name calling? Thought you were "tolerant"?

Meh... we won't even hear the noise in a few generations.

biobengal wrote:Meh... we won't even hear the noise in a few generations.

I'll go to my death even if nobody else shows up.

dbackjon wrote:Fuck those bigoted pieces of shit

Everyone doesn't have to like you...everyone doesn't have to approve of your lifestyle. But if they don't, you throw a hissy fit and call them haters.

Funny stuff.

psychoCAT wrote:So because somebody's beliefs are under attack, you start with the name calling? Thought you were "tolerant"?

Hell yes - all those assholes need to jump out of a balloon without a parachute - they are evil fuckers that are a blight on the world.

Would you advise blacks to be tolerant of the KKK?

Fuck that shit - any group of people that campaign against equality for all Americans deserve all the scorn in the world - they are a waste of space.


That also goes for the Mormons who lied, cheated and fucked over Californians on Prop H8.

Hey dback, I'd be the first to admit that the bishops need to get out of the ivory tower and meet and mingle with real people, but this is a genuine issue of religious freedom here.

JoltinJoe wrote:Hey dback, I'd be the first to admit that the bishops need to get out of the ivory tower and meet and mingle with real people, but this is a genuine issue of religious freedom here.

His only version of religious freedom is no religion about the same as pro-choicers real meaning is pro-abortion unless of course you can change Scripture to fit the lifestyle which sadly too many churches are doing.

psychoCAT wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:Hey dback, I'd be the first to admit that the bishops need to get out of the ivory tower and meet and mingle with real people, but this is a genuine issue of religious freedom here.

His only version of religious freedom is no religion about the same as pro-choicers real meaning is pro-abortion unless of course you can change Scripture to fit the lifestyle which sadly too many churches are doing.

Religionist can practice what they want, as long as they are trying to limit equality of non-members.

JoltinJoe wrote:Hey dback, I'd be the first to admit that the bishops need to get out of the ivory tower and meet and mingle with real people, but this is a genuine issue of religious freedom here.

So where do you draw the line? Allow them to discriminate against gay AIDS patients?

dbackjon wrote:

psychoCAT wrote:So because somebody's beliefs are under attack, you start with the name calling? Thought you were "tolerant"?

Hell yes - all those assholes need to jump out of a balloon without a parachute - they are evil fuckers that are a blight on the world.

Would you advise blacks to be tolerant of the KKK?

Fuck that shit - any group of people that campaign against equality for all Americans deserve all the scorn in the world - they are a waste of space.


That also goes for the Mormons who lied, cheated and fucked over Californians on Prop H8.

Blacks voted in mass against Prop 8
Why do you always forget to add them to your hate list?

dbackjon wrote:

psychoCAT wrote:So because somebody's beliefs are under attack, you start with the name calling? Thought you were "tolerant"?

Hell yes - all those assholes need to jump out of a balloon without a parachute - they are evil **** that are a blight on the world.

Would you advise blacks to be tolerant of the KKK?

**** that **** - any group of people that campaign against equality for all Americans deserve all the scorn in the world - they are a waste of space.


That also goes for the Mormons who lied, cheated and **** over Californians on Prop H8.

Most Catholics are Democrats

Jon has always been a one issue person.

Gil Dobie wrote:Most Catholics are Democrats

I don't think that's true. I'm not sure if you will find another cohesive group that is so evenly divided on party lines. Last numbers I saw were around 48-43 leaning Dem.

89Hen wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Most Catholics are Democrats

I don't think that's true. I'm not sure if you will find another cohesive group that is so evenly divided on party lines. Last numbers I saw were around 48-43 leaning Dem.

Source = Knights of Columbus monthly Ham Dinner Flyer

D1B wrote:

89Hen wrote: I don't think that's true. I'm not sure if you will find another cohesive group that is so evenly divided on party lines. Last numbers I saw were around 48-43 leaning Dem.

Source = Knights of Columbus monthly Ham Dinner Flyer

Well, until you show me otherwise the KOC is gospel.

89Hen wrote:Jon has always been a one issue person.

Hen, what do you tell your children about your church?

What do you tell them about the catholic church leading the bigotry movement against gays? They're gonna have gay friends at some point.

Do they know its history of torturing children throughout the world? They'll read about it soon.

Have you addressed with them the fact that your priests are weirdos and pedophiles and they should NEVER be alone with them, and if a priest asks them to do something that will make them alone with them, they are to call the police? Do you tell them they're safer than boys?

What do/did you tell them when they ask why women cant become priests or the pope and why priests cant get married?

D1B wrote:

89Hen wrote:Jon has always been a one issue person.

Hen, what do you tell your children about your church?

What do you tell them about the catholic church leading the bigotry movement against gays? They're gonna have gay friends at some point.

Do they know its history of torturing children throughout the world? They'll read about it soon.

Have you addressed with them the fact that your priests are weirdos and pedophiles and they should NEVER be alone with them, and if a priest asks them to do something that will make them alone with them, they are to call the police? Do you tell them they're safer than boys?

What do/did you tell them when they ask why women cant become priests or the pope and why priests cant get married?

I just show them some of your posts and tell them this is what you'll end up like if you don't go to church. They get back in line pretty quickly.

89Hen wrote:

D1B wrote:

Hen, what do you tell your children about your church?

What do you tell them about the catholic church leading the bigotry movement against gays? They're gonna have gay friends at some point.

Do they know its history of torturing children throughout the world? They'll read about it soon.

Have you addressed with them the fact that your priests are weirdos and pedophiles and they should NEVER be alone with them, and if a priest asks them to do something that will make them alone with them, they are to call the police? Do you tell them they're safer than boys?

What do/did you tell them when they ask why women cant become priests or the pope and why priests cant get married?

I just show them some of your posts and tell them this is what you'll end up like if you don't go to church. They get back in line pretty quickly.

Nice dodge, Joe, but try answering the questions.

89Hen wrote:

D1B wrote:

Hen, what do you tell your children about your church?

What do you tell them about the catholic church leading the bigotry movement against gays? They're gonna have gay friends at some point.

Do they know its history of torturing children throughout the world? They'll read about it soon.

Have you addressed with them the fact that your priests are weirdos and pedophiles and they should NEVER be alone with them, and if a priest asks them to do something that will make them alone with them, they are to call the police? Do you tell them they're safer than boys?

What do/did you tell them when they ask why women cant become priests or the pope and why priests cant get married?

I just show them some of your posts and tell them this is what you'll end up like if you don't go to church. They get back in line pretty quickly.

OK, that was pretty damn funny.

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote: I just show them some of your posts and tell them this is what you'll end up like if you don't go to church. They get back in line pretty quickly.

OK, that was pretty damn funny.

Really?

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote: I just show them some of your posts and tell them this is what you'll end up like if you don't go to church. They get back in line pretty quickly.

OK, that was pretty damn funny.

He'll post his social security number and credit card info before he posts an honest answer to the questions.

The amount of lies, withholding information and half truths you have to tell children to keep the myth alive is amazing.

D1B wrote:

kalm wrote:
OK, that was pretty damn funny.

He'll post his social security number and credit card info before he posts an honest answer to the questions.

The amount of lies, withholding information and half truths you have to tell children to keep the myth alive is amazing.

You don't answer questions, why should I? Anyway, you won't like my answers no matter what I post.

89Hen wrote:

D1B wrote:
He'll post his social security number and credit card info before he posts an honest answer to the questions.

The amount of lies, withholding information and half truths you have to tell children to keep the myth alive is amazing.

You don't answer questions, why should I? Anyway, you won't like my answers no matter what I post.

Yeah, right.

Just tell your church to leave gays alone. OK?