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PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:34 am
by bluehenbillk
A judge in PA didn't strike the law down today - but effectively pushed enforcement of the law until AFTER the November election. PA voters will be asked to show ID next month but it will not be mandatory to vote as GOP lawmakers had hoped.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:23 am
by Wedgebuster
That will not help ensure that Mitt Romney carries the state of Pennsylvania..
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:24 am
by Gil Dobie
Wedgebuster wrote:That will not help ensure that Mitt Romney carries the state of Pennsylvania..
It will help make sure conks vote early but not often.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:25 am
by mrklean
GOOD NEWS!

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:31 am
by ASUG8
mrklean wrote:GOOD NEWS!

Yeah, I guess Acorn can dig up some dead guys and get them registered in PA. Makes me proud.

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:36 am
by 89Hen
mrklean wrote:GOOD NEWS!

The lines will be shorter for voting.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:43 am
by Gil Dobie
ASUG8 wrote:mrklean wrote:GOOD NEWS!

Yeah, I guess Acorn can dig up some dead guys and get them registered in PA. Makes me proud.

Registered voter does not make a voter, where most Donks have told me that Conks vote early and often.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:05 pm
by BlueHen86
It's the right call. The judge ruled that there wasn't enough time to get everyone photo ID. The law can go into effect in future elections, but not this year. I'm in favor of voter ID, but there needs to be adaquate time to get everyone the proper ID. There was too much chance that voters would be disenfranchised.
Besides, PA republicans don't want voter ID to fight voter fraud, they want it so that Romney can win PA. Here is a clip of Republican Pennsylvania state rep Mike Turzai:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8[/youtube]
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:09 pm
by 89Hen
BlueHen86 wrote:Besides, PA republicans don't want voter ID to fight voter fraud, they want it so that Romney can win PA. Here is a clip of Republican Pennsylvania state rep Mike Turzai:
Two birds with one stone.

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:11 pm
by 89Hen
What are people opposed to voter ID afraid of? Voter intimidation? Shit I face that every year when I walk into a polling place that is 85% staffed by uber-liberals and when they see my party affiliation I get the cold shoulder.

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:11 pm
by Grizalltheway
BlueHen86 wrote:It's the right call. The judge ruled that there wasn't enough time to get everyone photo ID. The law can go into effect in future elections, but not this year. I'm in favor of voter ID, but there needs to be adaquate time to get everyone the proper ID.
There was too much chance that voters would be disenfranchised.
Besides, PA republicans don't want voter ID to fight voter fraud, they want it so that Romney can win PA. Here is a clip of Republican Pennsylvania state rep Mike Turzai:
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8[/youtube]
Uhh, that's exactly why conks push these laws so hard. Take the people whom they know won't be voting for their guy out of the equation entirely.

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:13 pm
by 89Hen
Grizalltheway wrote:Take the people whom they know won't be voting for their guy out of the equation entirely.


How?
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:27 pm
by Chizzang
Yeah I gotta agree with Hen (as much as that kills me)
If you can't be bothered to get registered and ID's to vote - fuck off - The state has the right to enact laws
Does it help Republicans
yeah I guess if Liberals are too fucking lazy to follow through then they get what they deserve
As long as it's constitutional I'm cool with it

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:35 pm
by D1B
89Hen wrote:What are people opposed to voter ID afraid of? Voter intimidation? Shit I face that every year when I walk into a polling place that is 85% staffed by uber-liberals and when they see my party affiliation I get the cold shoulder.

You get the cold shoulder because you're a paranoid jerk.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:42 pm
by GannonFan
Canada requires a photo ID to vote. So does Germany. So does the Netherlands. I certainly understand that some Republicans see this as a way to stop some people (i.e. Democrats) from voting, but given that plenty of other places require photo ID, and considering that it is widely documented that the voter rolls in the US have somewhere in the ballpark of 1 out of every 8 records is in error, we should and need to do something. However, we're stuck in the same pitched battle between partisans where Democrats say nothing is wrong and there's never been fraud in American elections and Republicans professing to just be about protecting the rights of legit voters while secretly hoping this keeps Democratic voters from being able to vote. It would be nice to have a non-partisan group just sort this out and clean things up, but we seem to be lacking such a non-partisan leaning group to do that.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:43 pm
by BlueHen86
Chizzang wrote:Yeah I gotta agree with Hen (as much as that kills me)
If you can't be bothered to get registered and ID's to vote - fuck off -
The state has the right to enact laws
Does it help Republicans
yeah I guess if Liberals are too fucking lazy to follow through then they get what they deserve
As long as it's constitutional I'm cool with it

I believe that the judge agreed. The issue was giving people enough time to get a photo ID.
I don't know how there are people out there without a photo ID, but I guess there are lots of them. Chances are these people won't have photo ID next year either, but then there will be no excuse.
On a related note, I had a good friend in HS who was legally blind, he got photo ID from the same place I got my drivers license photo. It was an official Connecticut issued ID, it looked just like a drivers license but the borders were a different color.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:58 pm
by Gil Dobie
D1B wrote:89Hen wrote:What are people opposed to voter ID afraid of? Voter intimidation? **** I face that every year when I walk into a polling place that is 85% staffed by uber-liberals and when they see my party affiliation I get the cold shoulder.

You get the cold shoulder because you're a paranoid jerk.
.......it's going downhill again

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:05 pm
by D1B
Gil Dobie wrote:D1B wrote:
You get the cold shoulder because you're a paranoid jerk.
.......it's going downhill again

Hey Fuckbreath, read his dumb post. He deserves it.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:10 pm
by Gil Dobie
D1B wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
.......it's going downhill again

Hey ****, read his dumb post. He deserves it.
down,down,down
and the flames went higher.
And it burns,burns,burns
the ring of fire
the ring of fire.
-JC
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:24 pm
by 89Hen
D1B wrote:89Hen wrote:What are people opposed to voter ID afraid of? Voter intimidation? Shit I face that every year when I walk into a polling place that is 85% staffed by uber-liberals and when they see my party affiliation I get the cold shoulder.

You get the cold shoulder because you're a paranoid jerk.
Nope. Witnessed one other person get the same treatment as me. I'm sure it happens the other way around in red areas too.

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:26 pm
by 89Hen
BlueHen86 wrote:I don't know how there are people out there without a photo ID, but I guess there are lots of them.
Hard to believe there's a single person without one given the lines at motor vehicles all day long.
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:25 am
by BDKJMU
Donks have already been proven to be hypocritical on this issue- they don't want people to be able to have to show ID at the polls, but they required people to show ID to get into the donk convention....

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:57 am
by blueballs
Do you have to show government issued photo ID to get food stamps, welfare, Section 8, unemployment, disability, social security???????
Just curious......
Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:14 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
mrklean wrote:GOOD NEWS!

Yeah you guys get more voter fraud!!

Re: PA Voter ID Law Pushed Back
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:14 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
blueballs wrote:Do you have to show government issued photo ID to get food stamps, welfare, Section 8, unemployment, disability, social security???????
Just curious......
How would I know?
