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Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:21 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:28 pm
by Chizzang
Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:30 pm
by Bison Fan in NW MN
Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that
Sheez......I think he did alittle more than that!
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:52 pm
by DSUrocks07
Seems like the government is making too many enemies these days...

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:31 pm
by SDHornet
This story isn't legit until we get a 2 hour youtube video about it posted by expandos.
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:27 pm
by Chizzang
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that
Sheez......I think he did alittle more than that!
I completely and wholeheartedley disagree
U.S. Corporations dumping toxic waste in Africa / Inhumane protocol standards from Guantanamo Bay revealed in our State Departments own words / Afghan policy of cover-ups and the trail of lies / Iraq War lies and deceit...

Exposing our true character to the world...
Only one problem, Americans don't read
So no need to cover them up - nobody read the reports - nobody walking the streets in the great USA cares
So who cares..?
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:46 pm
by Seahawks08
there weren't even any true "secrets" in the documents. Plus, in my book he is legal to do whatever he wants since he's not the one who stole that secret information. It's a freakin news source. Unbelievable.

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:59 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Sheez......I think he did alittle more than that!
I completely and wholeheartedley disagree
U.S. Corporations dumping toxic waste in Africa / Inhumane protocol standards from Guantanamo Bay revealed in our State Departments own words / Afghan policy of cover-ups and the trail of lies / Iraq War lies and deceit...

Exposing our true character to the world...
Only one problem, Americans don't read
So no need to cover them up - nobody read the reports - nobody walking the streets in the great USA cares
So who cares..?
If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:16 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Chizzang wrote:
I completely and wholeheartedley disagree
U.S. Corporations dumping toxic waste in Africa / Inhumane protocol standards from Guantanamo Bay revealed in our State Departments own words / Afghan policy of cover-ups and the trail of lies / Iraq War lies and deceit...

Exposing our true character to the world...
Only one problem, Americans don't read
So no need to cover them up - nobody read the reports - nobody walking the streets in the great USA cares
So who cares..?
If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?
Beats me...?
You tell me
But in case you haven't notices U.S. corporations do whatever they want in third world countries
So is that really news anymore..?
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:17 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?
Beats me...?
You tell me
Perhaps you're wrong?

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:18 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Chizzang wrote:
Beats me...?
You tell me
Perhaps you're wrong?

perhaps I'm not
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:57 am
by houndawg
Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that
Yep. He'd be smart to stay where there would be too much "collateral damage" to use a a drone.
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:42 am
by YoUDeeMan
Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that
Whatever happened to Obama's "transparency" promise?

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:46 am
by YoUDeeMan
AZGrizFan wrote:If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?
They don't care about their actions...their actions are very profitable. They just care about not looking like they're doing their actions. Public image important...it keeps the masses quiet.

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:03 am
by kalm
He also makes the media look bad...for doing their job for them.

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:14 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
If this asshat had the plans for completing a nuclear bomb complete with a guidance system, don't you think he would release that as well? It doesn't matter the content of what he released, it was classified information and he should not have released it. I am all for freedom of the press but what he released was a lot different than breaking a watergate story.

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:20 am
by Ivytalk
Assange needs to be housed in the general population of the worst prison in the US with 300-pound horny cellmates named Bubba and Hakim.

No sympathy for that rat-bastage.
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:21 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
Ivytalk wrote:Assange needs to be housed in the general population of the worst prison in the US with 300-pound horny cellmates named Bubba and Hakim.

No sympathy for that rat-bastage.
I'll even pitch in some sand for them to use instead of vaseline.

Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:47 am
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:
perhaps I'm not
More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:57 am
by ASUG8
We should carpet bomb and turn it into a glass factory.
oops,wrong thread.
Re: Assange an
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:58 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
perhaps I'm not
More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.
Because you're from the government and you're here to help? (Or something like that...?
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:01 am
by YoUDeeMan
Re: Assange an
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:14 am
by YoUDeeMan
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
perhaps I'm not
More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.
The real problem is that we aren't more open about our policies and objectives. We cover up everything and then use that as an excuse to steal money and do our dirty business behind a wall of poppycock. A giant wall of horseshit.
Sure, you don't want to rat out an informant if it endangers his life, but that is such a ridiculously small bit of the classified material it is almost not worth mentioning in the bigger picture.
Seriously, the way we do things invites far more problems than any information that Assange revealed. We do things to protect the interests of a small minority of movers and shakers...we don't do things to protect American in general. If we did, we wouldn't have had 2,125 of our soldiers die (so far) in Afghanistan.

Re: Assange an
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:49 am
by DSUrocks07
Cluck U wrote:CID1990 wrote:
More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.
The real problem is that we aren't more open about our policies and objectives. We cover up everything and then use that as an excuse to steal money and do our dirty business behind a wall of poppycock. A giant wall of horseshit.
Sure, you don't want to rat out an informant if it endangers his life, but that is such a ridiculously small bit of the classified material it is almost not worth mentioning in the bigger picture.
Seriously, the way we do things invites far more problems than any information that Assange revealed. We do things to protect the interests of a small minority of movers and shakers...we don't do things to protect American in general.
If we did, we wouldn't have had 2,125 of our soldiers die (so far) in Afghanistan. 
But aren't they "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here?"
Re: Assange an "enemy"...US Defense Department
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:07 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
Cluck U wrote:GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:If this asshat had the plans for completing a nuclear bomb complete with a guidance system, don't you think he would release that as well? It doesn't matter the content of what he released, it was classified information and he should not have released it. I am all for freedom of the press but what he released was a lot different than breaking a watergate story.

Uhhh...
you can build a nuclear bomb with information from the local library. You can build all sorts of biological weapons from information in libraries. You can use todays RC vehicles to deliver ordinance.
So, let's just start banning libraries and toys, shall we?
"Classified" information...yeah, just like Obama's college records.

If what you say was true, why would Iran be spending so much time and money on developing one? Is it because they can't read the language of infidels?
I would agree that the general principles of it may be available but the details of actually pulling it off are not and should not be publicly available. If your RC controllers can go inter-continental, what kind of toys are you playing with because I want in on them!
