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Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:20 pm
by AZGrizFan
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/04/ne ... p=obinsite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They're harmless, right?
A 6-year-old boy whose throat was slashed by an intruder high on PCP-laced marijuana was killed trying to save his sister, coming to her aid as she was being assaulted on the floor, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Thirty-one-year-old Osvaldo Rivera, who is charged in Sunday's middle-of-the-night attack, sobbed during an appearance Tuesday in court in which bail was set at $5 million.

During an interrogation, Rivera had asked: "How bad did I hurt them?" assistant prosecutor Christine Shah said during the hearing.

The attack early Sunday was the second time in less than two weeks that prosecutors say a Camden resident apparently high on PCP had killed a child. On Aug. 22, a Camden woman decapitated her 2-year-old son, called 911 to admit stabbing the child, then killed herself.

Authorities said they are going to test PCP on the street to see what might be behind the outbursts of violence. The drug can make users hallucinatory and incoherent, police said.

Rivera admitted he smoked "wet," a combination of marijuana and PCP, before the killing, police said. In the decapitation case, authorities said that preliminary tests showed the woman had PCP in her system and that they believed she had also smoked wet.

New details in the more recent attack were revealed after authorities were able on Tuesday to interview the girl, 12, whose windpipe had been slashed but whose condition was upgraded from critical to stable. She ran out of the house and sought help after her brother intervened.

Both children had been sleeping downstairs when the assault began, police said.

The girl also said she had been raped by the attacker, Shah said at the court hearing.

Rivera, who did not enter a plea, is charged with murder and attempted murder, but prosecutors said more charges will be filed. Authorities said he had a drug arrest in 2009 but no other convictions. He did not yet have an attorney Tuesday.

The Associated Press is not naming the slain 6-year-old to avoid identifying his sister, who says she is a victim of sexual assault.

The 12-year-old was able to help police track down the attacker by identifying him as what sounded like "Poppy." Investigators learned Rivera was known by the nickname "Popeye" and had spent nights at an apartment in the area of the city.

Police found him hiding between a mattress and bedroom wall in the apartment. They said they also found blood-stained sneakers that matched bloody footprints in the home where the children were assaulted.


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Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:26 pm
by Chizzang
Who's trying to legalize PCP..?

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:28 pm
by Grizalltheway
Drugs don't kill people, people kill people.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:00 pm
by Vidav
Grizalltheway wrote:Drugs don't kill people, people kill people.
Overdoses are drugs killing people. :coffee:

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:36 pm
by Skjellyfetti
should we outlaw alcohol since some people can't handle their shit, drive drunk, and kill people?

there are thousands upon thousands of alcohol related deaths every year. maybe a couple dozen pcp related deaths?

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:38 pm
by SDHornet
Skjellyfetti wrote:should we outlaw alcohol since some people can't handle their shit, drive drunk, and kill people?

there are thousands upon thousands of alcohol related deaths every year. maybe a couple dozen pcp related deaths?
Uh oh, it looks like this thread is about to morph into something that's never been discussed before.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:15 pm
by AZGrizFan
SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:should we outlaw alcohol since some people can't handle their shit, drive drunk, and kill people?

there are thousands upon thousands of alcohol related deaths every year. maybe a couple dozen pcp related deaths?
Uh oh, it looks like this thread is about to morph into something that's never been discussed before.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My plan is working to perfection. :coffee:

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:07 am
by Chizzang
You do realize that drinking and driving should be legal don't you..?

Signed
JohnstWrong

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:59 am
by Gil Dobie
Don't forget Peanut Butter related deaths. Should outlaw peanuts.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:19 am
by andy7171
Wet? I though PCP and weed was Love Boat. Of which I may or may not have ridden in high school a time or two. :?

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:05 am
by Ivytalk
What does Gary Johnson say about the drug issue, AZ? :?

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:14 am
by bluehenbillk
Grizalltheway wrote:Drugs don't kill people, people kill people.
Yep, I've heard that argument regarding gun control too...

Honestly, they should probably legalize most, but not all drugs. It'd put the cartels & a lot of the gang violence out of business.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:41 am
by ASUG8
PCP is a solid argument for higher caliber home protection ammo. :shock:

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:13 am
by mrklean
Vidav wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Drugs don't kill people, people kill people.
Overdoses are drugs killing people. :coffee:
Hamburgers, Potato Chips and Beer kill more people that Drugs. Either you want Big Government out of your life or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:29 am
by Wedgebuster
Suicides kill people.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:34 am
by AZGrizFan
Ivytalk wrote:What does Gary Johnson say about the drug issue, AZ? :?
:coffee: :coffee:

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:01 am
by Grizalltheway
Wedgebuster wrote:Suicides kill people.
And God kills fetuses. :thumb:

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:55 am
by Chizzang
Grizalltheway wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Suicides kill people.
And God kills fetuses. :thumb:


This thread makes me happy

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:19 am
by ASUG8
mrklean wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Overdoses are drugs killing people. :coffee:
Hamburgers, Potato Chips and Beer kill more people that Drugs. Either you want Big Government out of your life or you don't. You can't have it both ways.
Stay out of NYC, since it'll be easier to get drugs soon than a burger and fries. :?

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:11 am
by GannonFan
mrklean wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Overdoses are drugs killing people. :coffee:
Hamburgers, Potato Chips and Beer kill more people that Drugs. Either you want Big Government out of your life or you don't. You can't have it both ways.
Well, technically it's the lack of exercise after consuming hamburgers, chips, and beer that kill people. If government really wanted to get serious about this it would require gym records or pedometers from everyone on a monthly basis to show that we're getting enough exercise.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:53 am
by CID1990
Legalize it all. Have always said that.

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:57 am
by Ivytalk
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:What does Gary Johnson say about the drug issue, AZ? :?
:coffee: :coffee:
Great talking point. :roll:

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:29 pm
by expandspanos
Drug criminalization has never worked.

The founding fathers grew cannabis..

Also, in other news, "Marijuana and Cancer: Scientists Find Cannabis Compound Stops Metastasis In Aggressive Cancer": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 98208.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It has been known for a while marijuana fights cancer.

Great Ron Paul interview on why the war on drugs is rediculous:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmBciOsN ... re=related[/youtube]

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:41 pm
by dbackjon
Did you hear that Blair got divorced?

Re: Yeah, We Should Just Legalize Drugs...They're Harmless

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:53 pm
by ASUG8
Ron Paul gets a lot of stuff right, and this is one of those things. I don't even partake but it's a pretty solid position IMHO :nod: