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Cap'n Cat is right, Obama for 4 more years

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Especially notable was Romney’s boost among independents, 45 percent of whom rated him favorably, compared with Thursday’s 34 percent. Twenty percent of independents found him likeable, up from Thursday’s 16 percent…
Respondents said Romney would be more effective than Obama as president by a margin of 37 percent to 33 percent. The margin was even wider among independents, at 26 percent versus 17 percent.
Romney and Obama remain in a dead heat in most national polls of voting intentions. Friday’s Reuters/Ipsos poll had Romney with a slim one-point lead among likely voters, effectively unchanged from the day before…
“It was more important for Romney to create a more positive image,” [Ipsos pollster Julia Clark] said. “Some of these softer metrics, image issues, they contribute to factors like trust that ultimately do sway some people” when time comes to vote.

Gil Dobie wrote:Cap'n Cat is right, Obama for 4 more years

He is right.

And, if you're actually confident Romney will win I'll wager something with you.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Cap'n Cat is right, Obama for 4 more years

He is right.

And, if you're actually confident Romney will win I'll wager something with you.

What part of Obama for 4 more years don't you understand.

Gil Dobie wrote:
What part of Obama for 4 more years don't you understand.

Hmmm. Apologies. Thought you were being sarcastic.

You start a thread called "No Bounce for Romney" and then quote part of an article showing a (small) bounce?

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Cap'n Cat is right, Obama for 4 more years

He is right.

And, if you're actually confident Romney will win I'll wager something with you.

Betting on the collective ignorance of the American people?

Baldy wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
He is right.

And, if you're actually confident Romney will win I'll wager something with you.

Betting on the collective ignorance of the American people?

Put up a better candidate.

D1B wrote:

Baldy wrote:
Betting on the collective ignorance of the American people?

Put up a better candidate.

No kidding.

D1B wrote:

Baldy wrote:
Betting on the collective ignorance of the American people?

Put up a better candidate.

That's the problem. There isn't a better candidate than Obama....his abysmal failure as a Chief Executive notwithstanding.

Baldy wrote:

D1B wrote:
Put up a better candidate.

That's the problem. There isn't a better candidate than Obama....his abysmal failure as a Chief Executive notwithstanding.

Give a few examples of his "failures" please...
I'm curious
I can only think of Afghanistan in that regard... can you name some things that make him an "abysmal failure" ?

Chizzang wrote:

Baldy wrote:
That's the problem. There isn't a better candidate than Obama....his abysmal failure as a Chief Executive notwithstanding.

Give a few examples of his "failures" please...
I'm curious
I can only think of Afghanistan in that regard... can you name some things that make him an "abysmal failure" ?

I'm talking about his failure as a leader, but if you are looking for specific examples...

As you mentioned, Afghanistan.
Zero budgets passed since he took the oath of office.
His promise to cut the deficit in half.
Obamacare
Iran
His support of the Arab Spring, which brought fundamental Islamists into power in Egypt.
Reset button with Russia.
"Recovery Summer" of 2010.
Solyndra
His stimulus plan (the promise that unemployment wouldn't go over 8% if it passed).
Cash for Clunkers

Do I really need to go on?

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Give a few examples of his "failures" please...
I'm curious
I can only think of Afghanistan in that regard... can you name some things that make him an "abysmal failure" ?

I'm talking about his failure as a leader, but if you are looking for specific examples...

As you mentioned, Afghanistan.
Zero budgets passed since he took the oath of office.
His promise to cut the deficit in half.
Obamacare
Iran
His support of the Arab Spring, which brought fundamental Islamists into power in Egypt.
Reset button with Russia.
"Recovery Summer" of 2010.
Solyndra
His stimulus plan (the promise that unemployment wouldn't go over 8% if it passed).
Cash for Clunkers

Do I really need to go on?

Okay let's review...
No budgets have passed has nothing to do with the President
His budget and spending is virtually par with every president since Eisenhower and is FACTUALLY on pace to go below that in 2012

His promises are like all presidential promises / pretty standard stuff there

His Healthcare plan is no different than the plan working fine in Massachusetts that Romney passed

Iran...? So what / That's a UN Issue / Who cares

Arab Spring: Why is it bad that Fundamentalists are in charge in Egypt..? Why does that bother you..?

Russia, The New Start treaty is considered excellent by some and a tragedy by others
That's just a matter of opinion and only time will tell

I think you just want a president that speaks to you
This president isn't any worse than anything we've had recently / He just doesn't suit your personal style
Romney says the things you like to hear - but - he does the same shit Obama does
Romney had a disaster of an over seas trip / Created the Obama Healthcare system

BE careful what you "vote" for, same guy as far as I can tell

Chizzang wrote: Okay let's review...
No budgets have passed has nothing to do with the President
His budget and spending is virtually par with every president since Eisenhower and is FACTUALLY on pace to go below that in 2012

Seriously? His attempts at a budget are so pathetic he can't even get a single DEMOCRAT to vote for them...THREE years since a budget has passed and you just give him a "pass" on that?

And his spending is hardly "on par" with every president since Eisenhower. He's added more to the deficit in ONE term than free-spending Bush did in TWO. THAT'S the facts, Jack.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote: Okay let's review...
No budgets have passed has nothing to do with the President
His budget and spending is virtually par with every president since Eisenhower and is FACTUALLY on pace to go below that in 2012

Seriously? His attempts at a budget are so pathetic he can't even get a single DEMOCRAT to vote for them...THREE years since a budget has passed and you just give him a "pass" on that?

And his spending is hardly "on par" with every president since Eisenhower. He's added more to the deficit in ONE term than free-spending Bush did in TWO. THAT'S the facts, Jack.

That is a FOX spin
It's actually NOT a fact - his spending is moderate
I can't find any information confirming that - however - if you can come up with Federal Govt' data that shows that I'll believe it

Chizzang wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Seriously? His attempts at a budget are so pathetic he can't even get a single DEMOCRAT to vote for them...THREE years since a budget has passed and you just give him a "pass" on that?

And his spending is hardly "on par" with every president since Eisenhower. He's added more to the deficit in ONE term than free-spending Bush did in TWO. THAT'S the facts, Jack.

That is a FOX spin
It's actually NOT a fact - his spending is moderate
I can't find any information confirming that - however - if you can come up with Federal Govt' data that shows that I'll believe it

I get and agree with most of your points Cleetsy but I have to disagree on calling Obama's spending moderate. It might be moderate in comparison to Dubya's but Dubya's was extreme and so is Obama's. I'm too lazy to look up the data.

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Give a few examples of his "failures" please...
I'm curious
I can only think of Afghanistan in that regard... can you name some things that make him an "abysmal failure" ?

I'm talking about his failure as a leader, but if you are looking for specific examples...

As you mentioned, Afghanistan.
Zero budgets passed since he took the oath of office.
His promise to cut the deficit in half.
Obamacare
Iran
His support of the Arab Spring, which brought fundamental Islamists into power in Egypt.
Reset button with Russia.
"Recovery Summer" of 2010.
Solyndra
His stimulus plan (the promise that unemployment wouldn't go over 8% if it passed).
Cash for Clunkers

Do I really need to go on?

Don't forget not closing Gitmo.

Perhaps we should look at the "accomplishments" in Mass. under Romney:

Romney Care

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GL6Sw_U1gk[/youtube]

Chizzang wrote: Okay let's review...
No budgets have passed has nothing to do with the President
His budget and spending is virtually par with every president since Eisenhower and is FACTUALLY on pace to go below that in 2012

His promises are like all presidential promises / pretty standard stuff there

His Healthcare plan is no different than the plan working fine in Massachusetts that Romney passed

Iran...? So what / That's a UN Issue / Who cares

Arab Spring: Why is it bad that Fundamentalists are in charge in Egypt..? Why does that bother you..?

Russia, The New Start treaty is considered excellent by some and a tragedy by others
That's just a matter of opinion and only time will tell

I think you just want a president that speaks to you
This president isn't any worse than anything we've had recently / He just doesn't suit your personal style
Romney says the things you like to hear - but - he does the same shit Obama does
Romney had a disaster of an over seas trip / Created the Obama Healthcare system

BE careful what you "vote" for, same guy as far as I can tell

OK, lets review...

It is a fundamental duty of the president to prepare and pass a budget with the approval of Congress. FAIL X3
It's not that he has FAILed to keep his promise, he never had any intention of giving the appearance of trying to keep the promise. i.e. read the previous statement about the budget. FAIL
Good, that is what the citizens of Massachusetts wanted, and it is perfectly legal under the 10th amendment. Not to mention the costs associated with Obamacare have already doubled from the estimates when initiated. FAIL
Iran...who cares? FAIL
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Just when I thought Cleets was using common sense and turning into an independent thinker, he's tripping over analjelly to carry Obama's dirty bathwater.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

Baldy wrote: I'm talking about his failure as a leader, but if you are looking for specific examples...

As you mentioned, Afghanistan.
Zero budgets passed since he took the oath of office.
His promise to cut the deficit in half.
Obamacare
Iran
His support of the Arab Spring, which brought fundamental Islamists into power in Egypt.
Reset button with Russia.
"Recovery Summer" of 2010.
Solyndra
His stimulus plan (the promise that unemployment wouldn't go over 8% if it passed).
Cash for Clunkers

Do I really need to go on?

Don't forget not closing Gitmo.

I didn't forget, just got tired of typing out all of Obama's failures. It doesn't matter, Cleets would make some sort of excuse for him anyway.

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Give a few examples of his "failures" please...
I'm curious
I can only think of Afghanistan in that regard... can you name some things that make him an "abysmal failure" ?

I'm talking about his failure as a leader, but if you are looking for specific examples...

As you mentioned, Afghanistan.
Zero budgets passed since he took the oath of office.
His promise to cut the deficit in half.
Obamacare
Iran
His support of the Arab Spring, which brought fundamental Islamists into power in Egypt.
Reset button with Russia.
"Recovery Summer" of 2010.
Solyndra
His stimulus plan (the promise that unemployment wouldn't go over 8% if it passed).
Cash for Clunkers

Do I really need to go on?

Same day, same Limbaugh regurgitations!!!!!!!

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote: Okay let's review...
No budgets have passed has nothing to do with the President
His budget and spending is virtually par with every president since Eisenhower and is FACTUALLY on pace to go below that in 2012

His promises are like all presidential promises / pretty standard stuff there

His Healthcare plan is no different than the plan working fine in Massachusetts that Romney passed

Iran...? So what / That's a UN Issue / Who cares

Arab Spring: Why is it bad that Fundamentalists are in charge in Egypt..? Why does that bother you..?

Russia, The New Start treaty is considered excellent by some and a tragedy by others
That's just a matter of opinion and only time will tell

I think you just want a president that speaks to you
This president isn't any worse than anything we've had recently / He just doesn't suit your personal style
Romney says the things you like to hear - but - he does the same shit Obama does
Romney had a disaster of an over seas trip / Created the Obama Healthcare system

BE careful what you "vote" for, same guy as far as I can tell

OK, lets review...

It is a fundamental duty of the president to prepare and pass a budget with the approval of Congress. FAIL X3
It's not that he has FAILed to keep his promise, he never had any intention of giving the appearance of trying to keep the promise. i.e. read the previous statement about the budget. FAIL
Good, that is what the citizens of Massachusetts wanted, and it is perfectly legal under the 10th amendment. Not to mention the costs associated with Obamacare have already doubled from the estimates when initiated. FAIL
Iran...who cares? FAIL
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Just when I thought Cleets was using common sense and turning into an independent thinker, he's tripping over analjelly to carry Obama's dirty bathwater.

Meh...
Me thinks you protest too much
I'm not an Obama supporter / nor am I a Romney supporter
I just don't think they're going to be "so different" like you day dreamers do

Obama has certainly NOT been who he portrayed him self as
And Romney was somebody completely different when he was Gov.

Me thinks YOU are the one who is deceived

Chizzang wrote:Meh...
Me thinks you protest too much
I'm not an Obama supporter / nor am I a Romney supporter
I just don't think they're going to be "so different" like you day dreamers do

Obama has certainly NOT been who he portrayed him self as
And Romney was somebody completely different when he was Gov.

Me thinks YOU are the one who is deceived

So for whom will you vote?

legit http://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/issues/314713

89Hen wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Meh...
Me thinks you protest too much
I'm not an Obama supporter / nor am I a Romney supporter
I just don't think they're going to be "so different" like you day dreamers do

Obama has certainly NOT been who he portrayed him self as
And Romney was somebody completely different when he was Gov.

Me thinks YOU are the one who is deceived

So for whom will you vote?

I might have to write somebody in there...
Honestly I have no idea and I'm not really sure it even matters

Chizzang wrote:

89Hen wrote: So for whom will you vote?

I might have to write somebody in there...
Honestly I have no idea and I'm not really sure it even matters

Any vote in the state of Washington not for Barry Sortero is a wasted vote.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
I might have to write somebody in there...
Honestly I have no idea and I'm not really sure it even matters

Any vote in the state of Washington not for Barry Sortero is a wasted vote.

I assure you my vote is a wasted vote...